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34 Operators On the Job to Clear Roads from Latest Snowfall

Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 1:29 PM
Prince George, B.C.- The $5 million dollar snow removal budget for 2011 has long since been depleted, but there is still enough left in the reserve fund to get us through until 2012 says Mick Jones, the Manager of the Streets Division for the City of Prince George.
 
“We should be o.k. as long as we don’t get snowfall after snowfall in these last couple of weeks” says Jones, “ and the long range forecast looks o.k.” It has been estimated that each major snowfall costs about $250 thousand to clear.
 
Today, Jones says there are 34 pieces of equipment on the roads in Prince George, trying to clear the latest dump of snow. About  50 pieces of equipment will be on overnight tonight. He says there will be a day shift working on Saturday with 34 pieces on the road, and an afternoon shift although that shift will be down to just half a dozen workers.

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This is so strange. Unless the equipment is broken down why are not 50 pieces of equipment working until the snow is completely removed. I realize that operators need rest but you would think that management would be able to find other operators on a short term basis. The equipment does not need to rest. No wonder PG has such poor snow removal

Someone may know what the actual list of equipment is.

For instance, the rest may be blower(s) and trucks which will take up the windrows and deliver them to the snow storage areas. Then again, they may be contracted equipment that is not avaialable during the day.

We really do not know. At least I do not. Maybe someone does.

So rather than giving out details of input, how about details of output? Like, remind us of the priority of the roads to be cleared (bus routes for example) and when they will be cleared by.

We have a bus route one block away from our house. That was cleared this morning when I went out around 11:30am. I do not expect our residential streets to be cleared until Tuesday. At the moment they are reasonably passable with a front wheel drive sedan without tearing the front bumper to shreds.

However, it is supposed to get colder by Sunday, so, unless my neighbours and I drive up and down the street a few more times than we normally do, pack the wet snow down, we will be driving on an ice-clump covered street.

PG in the winter …. ;-)

However if you only have an afternoon shift of 6 people there is going to be a lot of idle equipment whatever that equipment might be. So while we battle poor roads, snow removal equipment sits. I wonder where Mick Jones learned about how to do snow removal. perhaps Victoria

We are on a bus route and the crews have done a pretty good job so far to keep everything clear, except the sidewalk of course.

No complaints! It’s a monumental task because P.G. is spread out over a huge area 4 times the size of the area which Victoria occupies!

I still can’t figure out why the plows on the trucks can’t be used, even just for intersections. They could sand AFTER the plow instead of on top of the snow but then perhaps their sanders are in front of the plow which REALLY makes a lot of sense. Mick Jones, would you care to answer us on some of these questions? Ben, I’d love you to have him for a guest one morning. I wonder how many of those six on Saturday are foremen?

good job done so far today. as prince george states,
it’s a monumental task.

Got to say I was surprised at how good the streets were today. 5th. 15th. all clear. just sayin.

Yes I agree, great job…..Everyone is working hard to get the job done….

I`m pretty content to just stay home on dayz like today,unless there is some that cant wait another day I`d rather stay off the roads.

I can’t imagine how many streets and alleys there are in PG.
As I was coming home from work today, the City crews were clearing 15th Ave.
I appreciate the effort and the long hours the City crews put in during the winter.
We are after all a winter city and despite debates about the equipment it does take time to clear the snow properly. And there are priorities…bus route especially.

Give More,

I can see a pretty good reason that the plows are not in use on the sand trucks in the intersections or otherwise.

You see when they drop that plow it’s going to create a very nice ridge of snow. That ridge isn’t just going to dissappear on it’s own.

Ohhhh the complaining we would see here if they did this LOL. There would be lots of little cars unable to proceed through intersections, there would be people stuck on those ridges, there would probably be issues with ambulances and police getting to where they need to be.

I say keep the plows up and drive something appropriate for our roads.

Went out on the town last night here in Ottawa. When we left, it was not snowing at all, roads were bare. A few hours later on the way home from dinner it had started snowing quite a bit.

Headed home, the main roads and the freeway had already been treated with solution to prevent snow build up and nothing was really accumulating unless you hit the side streets. On the way home one could see equipment out all over the place doing their thing. So it went from nothing on the roads at all with no need to, to equipment actively working in a matter of 1-3 hours and all of this for what I would call a VERY minor snowfall.

I used to think that PG had pretty decent snowfall removal. I hadn’t really seen any other system “in action” to compare it to. Based on my experience out here thus far, I’d say PG could improve a great deal. It seems as though they simply react and they don’t even do that very well. Out here they PREPARE and react and do a much better job at it.

Instead of flying to China and Scandinavia on occasion, perhaps PG officials should fly to Ottawa or some other cities out here and talk to them about their snow removal systems. Then again, that would mean they would have to admit that they were trying to learn to be better and that could cause them some embarrassment because they like to boast about how good their snow removal is. To make it worse, admitting that they were trying to learn from folks in Eastern Canada, would probably completely shock their system, LOL.

Anyway, have fun!

“I say keep the plows up and drive something appropriate for our roads”

Absolutely! They could stop all snow removal services and just subsidize people to drive SUV’s and 4×4’s in the winter. In the summer they could subsidize people to drive sports cars.

Oh wait a minute, those sports cars don’t really work all that well on the pot hole covered streets. Then again, 4×4’s and SUV’s aren’t even designed to take that stuff on either unless you are talking low speed operation.

I guess the only option really left for people in PG are retired military vehicles or shoes, LOL :)

With this rain and the unplowed roads an parking lots, plugged catch basins, etc. I need to invest in some gum boots. My Uggs just will not do even with silocone spray. :-)

If it had been just this little bit colder, and the total precipitation fell as snow, we would likely have gotten around 30 to 40 cm over a 48 hour period.

Either way, this is much more like Stewart and Kitimat weather.

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