If you could not find a job for a long time it is time to change your career guys.. The time is now. Be on your way to earning an accredited degree. Check out High Speed Universities and they sure find suitable career based on your interests.

Immigrants, hmmm, I bet a whole swack of americans will come up here…. Naah, i can’t stand their arrogance.

And we need a pipeline jobs for what reason??

How many times can the public be sold this line before it finally wakes up?

A decade or so ago we were entering into a “high-tech, value-added future”, (again! ~ we’d already entered it several times before, since at least the mid-’70’s, just as we’re now said to be entering into another ‘resource boom’, again), and jobs like ‘electrical engineers’ were going to command those six figure salaries.

Those already employed in such fields, (even though they themselves weren’t quite up to the six figure level yet, often encouraged the next generation that this was where the future was ~ and many of that generation bought in).

Unfortunately, there is a considerable ‘time lag’ between the time a would be future ‘electrical engineer’ begins his or her studies, and the time they are finally graduated, and available for hire.

In one class of 32 originally enrolled at UBC, 13 made it through the six years of study to graduate. Only 3 were able to find jobs in their chosen profession. The rest, loaded up in many cases with student loans, were told that they might’ve made a bad career choice, and should explore their options to be trained for something else.

This was when Northern Telecom was the darling of both Bay and Wall Streets, and Canada was entering the field of wireless telecommunications as a ‘global’ leader.

One of those 3 found work at Northern Telecom. And for a brief while everything for her was coming up roses. She wasn’t making a six figure salary, but close to it. She traveled and lived for a time abroad, at company expense, to take part in Northern Tel installations in England, and later, Mexico. She was given ‘stock options’, just like the top brass got, to purchase Nortel shares, trading at around $ 80 then, at a discount.

Those shares would rise to $ 120 at one point, but unlike the top brass, many of the employees had no conception that what goes up CAN also come down. After all, they were the ‘favoured few’ who’d done everything they were supposed to do ~ got educated, worked hard, invested in a ‘winner’ led by people who MUST know what they’re doing because they got to the top, something they could only still aspire to do.

It did not last. No more than the said-to-be-coming resource boom will last. For you can rest assured that if WE are being fed the same old line that imminent prosperity awaits us in delivering resources to far away markets, EVERY other source of those SAME resources is being fed the SAME line.

ALL of them will swallow it, and when those high priced, soon to be scarce resources hit the markets of the world, all at around the same time, the price will collapse.

We can take some solace, perhaps, that we then will have a ‘well-educated’ class of unemployed unemployables. But they’ll still be out of work. With likely too few ‘productive years’ left to them to recoup their losses when the next promised ‘boom’ materialises.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not ‘anti-education’, or a believer that we shouldn’t make efforts to train the workforce in the skills needed in future. We definitely should, but lets not approach this with that giggly, starry-eyed, picture perfect imagination that seems to be written all over the face of people like Christy Clark that there’s going to be ‘full employment’ for all. If all they’ll do is get trained.

There won’t be. If anything, the workplaces of the future will have far LESS workers in them and maintaining them than they do today. THAT is what we should be recognising, and preparing for.

“The problem will be to ensure there are enough people to fill the one million jobs that will be available. (Most of the positions will be available as aging baby boomers opt to retire), but there will be expansion as the major projects come on stream”

What a load of crap, they aren`t OPTiNG anything, they getting too old to slave away!

Pipeline, 180 jobs, …Mines, 500 man average, spinoff jobs, triple the count, LNG plant, 300…

This story talks in the millions, try more like 5000 jobs, and that`s fine(No Enbridge though)

Technocracy…Mines employ 1/3 of the employees they used, same thing in the mills, same thing everywhere..Mining trucks the size of a large house, robotics, computers.

This tripe, slow propaganda meant to ease the complaints when cheap foreign workers are brought in.

Drive down wages and work safety

People working to plan mines, to build mines, to work mines, to transport ore, to eventually decommission mines will all have to eat ………

mine planner = 1 big Mac worker
Mine builder = 4 big Mac workers
Mine worker = 4.5 big Mac workers
Ore transporter = 3 big Mac workers
Mine decommissioner = 1 Wimpy Burger worker

The above are the additional jobs in BC created by each of those mine related workers.

Ore excavator builder & assoc. = 150 workers
Rail car builders & assoc. = 175 workers
Steel rail manufacturers & assoc. = 125 workers
Mine ore hauler builder & assoc. = 180 workers

Those are the number of foreign workers in their own European and Asian countries who will be required to build and supply the technical equipment in their home country and ship them here, as well as send technical help over to service them for emergrencies and preventative maintenance programs.

Unless, of course, the Canadian government will worki with this province to provide some incentives to establish Canadian heavy machinery manufacturers and build markets for them.

1 Million, what where they Smoking ?

The key factor here is time. What is the actual time period this article is written about? 20 years? 30? 40?

If one takes the cohort of working people in BC right now that spans over a 40 year period, for instance, that group totals about 1.5 million. Let’s say 60% is in the workforce, so that means 900,000 workers.

The cohort coming behind has a total population of about 1.3 million. So there will be a shortfall of people currently in the province as they move through the system. There is a worse shortfall with the next 40 year cohort moving through.

But BC has been a province of immigrants throughout virtually all its life, as has Canada. So relying on in migration is not unusual, nor is relying on immigration.

So that leaves us to figure out the following as examples:
1. how many new jobs will be created
2. how mnay jobs will be lost due to technical efficiency increases
3. how many people will stay at work longer than in past generations
4. how many more people will need to or want to join the workforce who traditionally have not.

When one takes 1 million person years of work and divides it by 40 for the period I am using above, then that is 25,000 people per year who will need to come into the workforce due to a number of conditions, including new industry coming in.

So, to give any meaning to the article or press release, one needs a lot more information to make any rational sense of the situation we are facing. Much of it, actually, has been known for several decades, so this is not exactly the first time that this scenario has been described.

We just need a better description than has been provided by our government so far.

1 Million, what where they Smoking ?

BS ….. luckily we can’t yet smell it over the computer.

I noticed I made a mistake in the above. The numbers are actually for a cohort spanning 30 years, not 40.

I also went to the Immigration task force site and find that they are looking at a 10 year horizon.

[url]http://www.jti.gov.bc.ca/immigration_task_force/index.htm[url]

So that means 100,000 job openings on average per year, I assume starting on the on the low side of less than 100,000 and ending on the high side at more than 100,000.

What does the recent immigration to BC look like?

200138,484
200234,057
200335,233
200437,026
200544,775
200642,085
200738,970
200844,002
200941,439
201044,185

I do not have the demographic breakdown of those. Let’s assume that 50% enter the work force. That means 20,000 on average per year have been entering the workforce already. The expectation then is that they may need a third of the 100,000/yr new workers to be found from the immigration cohort.

That can be handled by increasing immigrants, changing the immigration target to move more into the “employable” category, increasing programs which will assess foreign trained workers so that engineers do not end up driving taxis, etc.

It is all in how one tells the story. Sounds much different to me when one does their own research.

http://www.jti.gov.bc.ca/immigration_task_force/index.htm

BTW, the migration in to the province from other parts of Canada was greater than the immigrattion into the province, 46,679.

I do not know the demographic of that group either. However, since this is an Immigration task force, they are likely not looking at those individuals.

This has all led me to the BC jobs plan page.

http://www.bcjobsplan.ca/regions

It uses the 8 economic development regions of the province, provides the population size, a very short overview of the key economic drivers and projects the number of job opneings over the nextt 10 years.

There are a few minor problems with it in that for three of the regions they do not give an actual number, but make a statement about the level of demand. Two of the regions have the thrid highest demand …. so can only guess that they are tied.

Here is the info put in tabular information, which, btw, is not the easy visual way that the info is presented on the site.

first column = region
second = population
third = job openings over 10 years or demand valuation or, where available, job openings as percetnage of pooulation

1. northeast64,411highest demand
2. mainland/southwest2,436,596660,00027.1%
3. north coast57,6633rd highest demand
4. nechako39,3523rd highest demand
5. thomson-okanagan491,479110,30022.4%
6. kootenay142,11031,70022.3%
7. Van Isl + Coast727,422152,60021.0%5th
8. cariboo154,45429,00018.8%

In case some do not know it, Prince George is part of the Cariboo economic region.

I’ll let everyone figure out for themselves what these figures mean because I do not think anyone in government is going to tell us to our faces.

I think it is time we looked after our own house in this region a bit better.

What jobs are opening?

High schools need to promote the trades more as this is where most of the jobs will be.

“Comment Posted by: daraflores on January 13 2012 4:19 AM

If you could not find a job for a long time it is time to change your career guys.. The time is now. Be on your way to earning an accredited degree. Check out High Speed Universities and they sure find suitable career based on your interests.”

Spammer!

Service Canada considers working 20 hours a week is a full time job… Has anyone looked at how many people in this city works those hours? It is not just the “youth” or the “housewife” or someone that does not want to work. There are many companies in this town and elsewhere that fire their workers for not being available for the 21st hour. If the employer find out the worker has another job elsewhere they tend to get rid of them because they are not available at their beckon call. Look at some of the big “stores”. Some of these people are in a catch-22 position. They cannot afford to quit. How about moving a full time position hours to say 25 or 30? There would be a heck of a lot of workers they could train using this labour pool. Gee, they live here……

There is no doubt that we should better build schoolrooms for “ the boy,” than cells and gibbets for “the Man” learn to get a degree from High Speed Universities article in few months and get a job