Transportation Dialogue Set for PG AIR
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 @ 3:50 AM
Prince George, B.C. – The Prince George Air Improvement Roundtable has set the stage for its discussion on transportation.
The transportation dialogue is set for March 27th. The goal of the evening session is to understand transportation emissions and the work being done to reduce those emissions in the Prince George airshed.
Transportation systems are interârelated and PGAIR is working to understand how the multiple components interact and compare with each other when it comes to emission reductions” says Terry Robert PGAIR Executive Director
The session will start at 6:30 pm and will be held in room 204 at the Prince George Civic Plaza.
The March 27th session will include presentations on the following:
• Introduction to Prince George Transportation Emission Profile, Dennis Fudge, B.C. Ministry of Environment
• Emission Reductions in the City of Prince George, Dan Milburn and Scott Bone, City of Prince George
• The BC Scrapâit Program – Future Direction and Results, Dennis Rogoza, BC Scrapâit Program
• CN’s Sustainability Plan, David Sutherland, CN Rail
“PGAIR would like to encourage members of the public to attend the March 27th event in order to find out more about PGAIR activities and emission reduction strategies within the community” says Robert.
Comments
Being the traffic light capital of Canada for our main highways through town can’t help much at all.
To get 60 tons moving requires a lot of emissions one would think. Why not have sensors on the light standards 12 feet up that pickup highway units and hold a light 20-seconds longer when need be? A smart road of sorts.
Or push to see a proper industrial ring road around PG that avoids the up and down grades and keep the emissions in the bowl to a minimum… the feds and province should owe PG this much with all the fuel taxes they collect from the refinery in the downtown and the resources revenue that flows to the senior levels of government.
The citizens are reducing emissions by not attending these forums in droves, 2 or 3 people showed up for the last one.
I have mentioned numerous times on this site that installing plc controls on the bypass lights would do more for the air shed than all of PR Air efforts to date.
Or push to see a proper industrial ring road around PG that avoids the up and down grades and keep the emissions in the bowl to a minimum… the feds and province should owe PG this much with all the fuel taxes they collect from the refinery in the downtown and the resources revenue that flows to the senior levels of government.
You are bang on Eagleone! I really don’t know why we’re not bold enough to even ask for this. It covers everyting from emissions to noise to safety. How would you like to live on Central St or Fifth Ave and watch the HD trucks lumber by your door 24/7?
“How would you like to live on Central St or Fifth Ave and watch the HD trucks lumber by your door 24/7?”
Equate the bowl of the city to the one everyone has in their house. I much prefer to live up on the rim, far away from the action down below, where people patiently waiting for the weather to flush away the inversions:-)
Not sure what good a ring road would do.
Where would it be built and who would it service.
Most of the traffic in Prince George especially on the bypass is going to or coming from the Pulp Mill Road, or River Road,or Northwood Pulp mill road, or from the Hart Highway and from 16 West. Traffic from 16 West also goes to the BCR site via 16 and 97. Any traffic from the East on 16 comes into town on the Yellowhead then out on 97 North, 16 West. Traffic going South would use the Old Cariboo Highway.
So considering that 90% of the truck traffic in Prince George is to and from business in Prince George I dont see how a ring road would help.
Elucidate please.
Would take some awfully long bridges to get away from going up and down hills in PG.
You mean something like these?
http://highestbridges.com/wiki/images/3/3a/38SfalassaBridge.jpg
http://v17.lscache8.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/66255291.jpg
http://highestbridges.com/wiki/images/9/92/1Mamoiada-Nuoro.jpg
If you do, we do not know how to build those yet … I mean, imagine how deep a pothole would be in one of those ….. :-)
Of course, thoswe who were at the SMART growth on the ground session here would totally understand this use of those bridges …. air rights would pay for the bridges …..
Okay, so it is actually SMART Growth in the Air ….
http://news.architecture.sk/uploaded_images/2010/08/residental-bridge-02.jpg
Longer . Kinda like long enough to get from the youth containment center to the cut banks behind the pulpmills . Maybe the end of Malaspina on top of the hill to the top of Sintich Road.On the North Side the top of Cranbrook hill to The Regional Landfill. (the dump).
I think that Mayor Green might be on the right track to reduce air pollution from vehicles. I mean if you don’t fix pot holes, then who wants to drive? Keep the roads in crumbling shape and hey, people will only drive when they really need to. Also it could encourage more car pooling so that only one car gets beat up verses maybe two or three, plus there is a side benefit by reducing those who speed. I mean who would want to speed with all them potholes and crumbling pavement? That alone will reduce vehicle emissions. On the other hand, potholes and crumbling pavement means exposed sub-grade dirt and gravel which means more dust and poorer air quality. We just can’t win!:(
I think an alternate route could be from Isle Pierre crossing to Chief Lake Road and extending Foothills to south of Salmon Valley where it could connect to Northwood Pulp Mill Road… Northwood Pulp mill Road could connect to PG Pulp up to the new Boundary Road and from their out to Beaverly. Most all forestry traffic would be removed from the core of the city and potential industrial lands outside the city airshed would have enabling infrastructure. Essentially all of it should be funded by the provincial and federal governments IMO.
I would prefer this to the Carriboo Connector as it would have far more utility and cost a fraction as much. PG would have modern road infrastructure.
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