The reason why the city can’t get ahead with the road repairs, is the quality of the repairs. Look at University Way. Re-paved in the up direction not even a year ago. At the time, over 10 areas were re-paved and fixed up due to issues of quality ( even reported on opinion250 ). Now not even a year later, there is at least 10 – 20 areas of pavement that isn’t a pot hole yet, but has a surface issue that is just filling with water, freeze thaw cycle, and catching tires at bad angles. So how is it that the original pavement lasted for close to 15 years and the new stuff doesn’t last a year ? Same with Ospika ( some sections paved 3 times in the past 5 years ).

Then to make matters worst, instead of repairing University Hill, as it was just paved and there are worst stretches, it will quickly fall into disrepair. Seen this time and time again around the city.

5th Ave. paved not that long ago, and has numerous issues that if fixed now wouldn’t be so bad long term, but instead will be ignored and turn into a serious issue in a year or two.

There must be something to be able to get the road to last, as they used to.

Someone decided that the old asphalt recipe was lasting too long and companies were going broke. So they came up with a job security recipe.

NoWay: That and giving three or four guys a lifetime job patching too. I’d like to ask Gaal what about his three crew patching force, going ’round the clock that he advertised last year? He didn’t mention that a week later it was down to one crew.

When the top layer of pavement is ground off and replaced with a new layer over old the results do not last very long.

Potholes from frost heaves come from a deeper level than 1-2″. By scraping this amount off the top and repaving, no work is being done to repair the actual damage, which reappears in short order.

I watched the first section of repaving of Domano with horror when large and visible potholes in the underlayer were simply filled with a shovel or two of gravel and paved over. To me that is like putting icing on a crumbling cake.

Therefore, it does not surprise me that the seams near Moriarty on the east side are showing signs of crumbling after 2 years.

Proper roadbed maintenance is required before we lay on new lipstick, and that just isn’t happening.

Meanwhile Ms. Green gets an assistant, an expensive ‘review’ started and dikes are to be built – No I am not pleased, but I am not surprised either – Ms. Green is doing what she said she would – be a business-centred conservative focusing on keeping the big movers and shakers in local and provincial business happy. Keeping the city’s infrastructure functional was not in her election platform.

i’ve heard that the quality of the paving being done here is sub-par. There are specifications for laying asphalt.
And we have been told that the the city uses too much smooth rock in the mix, the temperature at pour is too low and the amount of compaction is too much so the ‘repairs’ are doomed before they start. Basically the city is wasting our money. Somehow the highways get it right. There are fewer potholes in the highway from PG to Vancouver than there are from my house to the grocery store.

Why are they wasting thier time on places like hart frontage roads when streets like 18th and 22nd west of the bypass are horrible and have way more traffic on them than a frontage road.

“There are fewer potholes in the highway from PG to Vancouver than there are from my house to the grocery store.”

There are several observations like that which need to be kept in mind when the City is looking or excuses as to why the roads are breaking up.

The conseqences of hitting a pothole at 100km/h or swerving to avoid one, if it can be seen in time at that speed, are far graver than if one hits a pothole on a city street at 50 or 60km/h.

But the hidden cost is mechanical damage which is not covered by ICBC. If it were, I am sure that the City would be quicker to fix potholes because they would be paid a visit by ICBC.

i’ve heard that the quality of the paving being done here is sub-par. There are specifications for laying asphalt.
And we have been told that the the city uses too much smooth rock in the mix, the temperature at pour is too low and the amount of compaction is too much so the ‘repairs’ are doomed before they start. Basically the city is wasting our money. Somehow the highways get it right. There are fewer potholes in the highway from PG to Vancouver than there are from my house to the grocery store.

Just scrape up two or three inches of pavement on Ospika, mix it with some used motor oil and lay it down again. Should be good for another year. Just like last time.

“There are fewer potholes in the highway from PG to Vancouver than there are from my house to the grocery store.”

I too have been looking for an alternate proper better road to get from my house to Canadian Tire – no luck!

As one city official put it: There is really not that much wrong – it’s just a matter of a slightly reduced level of comfort!

*&^%$#@!+_)*&, +-&^$!

I’m not kidding!

We have complained about the roads constantly with no action..but as soon as it gets media attention BOOM, there is action.

Proof once again that mayor and council dont listen to the people.

We have complained about the roads constantly with no action..but as soon as it gets media attention BOOM, there is action.

Proof once again that mayor and council dont listen to the people.

I have lived in Prince George since 1967. I have never encountered the city roads to be in such deplorable condition. I try to avoid coming into town for that reason. I can go shopping in either direction by using the hwy’s. I do have short streches of city roads to travel on, but I am getting very good and sverving from left to right and back again.

In our local paper today it states that a report will be coming to city council on monday and proposes several changes to the paving program for 2012 to target roads most in need of repairs, Green said.

In the same coverage she said “I live in the area of Tabor Boulevard and drive it every day. It deserves to be on the list, it’s terrible.”

Any takers that this section of Tabor will be included in the revised plan?

I don’t understand why a road like Old Summit Lake Road is being done in a year when the budget is not very big. How many people drive that road everyday? How many drive some of the other roads that need work?

I apologize to the people who live down Old Summit Lake Rd. (I live nearby and like to drive that road because it’s a pretty drive) but we need to prioritize in lean budget years.

“..but as soon as it gets media attention BOOM, there is action.”

What action? They are just going to shuffle priorities! Some roads which are just as badly in need of repairs are going to be put on the back burner!

It’s like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!

With all the road tax collecting, engineering, planning, managing and so forth HOW did they completely miss the boat and allow things to get so far behind that it is almost impossible to catch up now?

How about the city doing some bottle collecting drives, garage sales and raffles?

Put Tabor on the BLOODY LIST!!!!!

“Foothills Boulevard S of Chief Lake Road West Austin Road”

Anybody want to bet on whether or not the dips in the road by the curves will still be there after re-surfacing?
metalman.

Remember to vote on the BCAA website for the worst roads. No reason at all PG can’t take the top 5 positions.

Off topic but remember to sign the AAP and submit to city hall. Download, print, sign, mail. It’s just that easy.