Who runs wcb? Who runs RCMP? Who runs BC safety authority? Who runs BC coroners service?

Politicians. Who runs the politicians?

Buisnessmen.

I’m a Lakeland employee BTW.

I assume that what they are referring to are criminal actions such as arson.

As it says, “the Prince George Fire Rescue investigation will focus on determining the root cause of the explosion”

Without knowing the root cause yet, I fail to see how anyone can determine whether there has been any negligence and even the extreme case of criminal negligence.

Bill C-45 is the famous piece of legislation added to the criminal code in 2004.

As it states in the link below:
“The Bill established new legal duties for workplace health and safety, and imposed serious penalties for violations that result in injuries or death. The Bill provided new rules for attributing criminal liability to organizations, including corporations, their representatives and those who direct the work of others.”

It is something I like to think is not the case here, but it is not something that any investigator can exclude just yet, in my opinion.

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/legisl/billc45.html

Thank you very much for the link gus.

We employees of lakeland have had a meeting every night this week. Last night the head of the RCMP Eric Staubs was brought in as a speaker by the sinclair group and told us the criminal investigation was over.

Things were heated after he said that and there was ugly verbal exchanges between the workers in the crowd and the RCMP.

What fuels us the workers most is that we knew how unsafe the mill was being run by senior management, how the first thing the new management team did was gut the clean up crews. The new management also cut the safety incentives programs that were in place.

Honestly I can say that clean up was so poor in some areas that doors couldn’t be opened and walkways were obstructed. This never happened under the old management.

I’m horribly terrified that this will happen to another mill.

I failed Glenn and his family by remaining quiet. I am determined not to do that again.

Mr PG, I understand the frustrations. i have also worked in a mill for over 20 years.
The question is, did anyone brought forth to management and safety committee in regards to the safety concerns you had in particular doorways / walkways and obstructions etc?
If so noted on safety minutes etc, then management and the company is liable.

There may be no criminal component at the moment. (Key word being “at the moment”)

The question that needs to be asked to lakeland management is.

“Did you take all practical means to prevent this and if so why did this happen.?” Enter the Ehibit A.. The stack of orders written by worksafe and the managers response to them (or lack of response)

I have worked in a sinclair group mill and safety is just a fluffy word its definitly not a culture.. Right to refuse work for unsafe conditions? Managemetn response..Dont bother coming in the next shift. Which means your pretty much fired.

borneo60 yes that is the frustration, concerns not acted upon. Read Mr.PG again. Lakeland was a poorly run company with many safety concerns that where not acted upon. The union is just as culpable for not stepping up to the plate. Interesting how the media including this site do not mention the extreme frustration of the employees at these meeting. Last night came close to a riot.

This was a totaly preventable tragedy.

Sounds like a great management team at Lakeland Mills. What is the unions take on the safety at this plant? Is it in bed with management or does it protect the workers? That is its first priority.

I worked in a union shop all my life and safety was the first concern. If there was someone that liked to take risks they had a big problem.

It should be a priority to have a safety committee that looks after complaints and the individual should not have to take the complaint to management. This needs to be done by a committee so the boss cant say “don’t bother to come in tomorrow”.

Management needs to realize its not just the workers at risk. It’s their plant as well. Just ask Lakeland.
Cheers

Thank you very much for the link gus.

We employees of lakeland have had a meeting every night this week. Last night the head of the RCMP Eric Staubs was brought in as a speaker by the sinclair group and told us the criminal investigation was over.

Things were heated after he said that and there was ugly verbal exchanges between the workers in the crowd and the RCMP.

What fuels us the workers most is that we knew how unsafe the mill was being run by senior management, how the first thing the new management team did was gut the clean up crews. The new management also cut the safety incentives programs that were in place.

Honestly I can say that clean up was so poor in some areas that doors couldn’t be opened and walkways were obstructed. This never happened under the old management.

I’m horribly terrified that this will happen to another mill.

I failed Glenn and his family by remaining quiet. I am determined not to do that again.

Hi guys, I’m running around right now and will respond when I get time tonight.

Please email this link around to all you know and don’t let this preventable tragedy fade away like babine.

Hi guys, I’m running around right now and will respond when I get time tonight.

Please email this link around to all you know and don’t let this preventable tragedy fade away like babine.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/two-years-before-deadly-explosions-warnings-went-out-about-sawdust-danger/article2415794/singlepage

The Globe and Mail has their investigative journalism team out in full force from the looks of it.

Headline: Two years before deadly explosions, warnings went out about sawdust danger

Two years before a pair of B.C. sawmill explosions that this year killed four workers, WorkSafeBC warned “a layer of dust as thin as a dime” in a sawmill could cause an explosion hazard.

The warning – included in an April. 27, 2010 series of guidelines on chemical and biological substances – also warns of the destructive nature of the phenomena.

“If combustible dust collects in a building or structure or on machinery or equipment, it must be safely removed before accumulation of the dust could cause a fire or explosion.”

The documents note there can be a series of explosions as the pressure from the first blast dislodges additional dust fuel for a second blast from various surfaces.

“This dislodged dust then mixes with air, creating a much larger dust cloud which can then be ignited and react explosively, creating a secondary catastrophic explosion,” says the document.

The second blast can be more devastating than the first, say the guidelines, which are focused on combustible dusts at sawmills and related facilities, The document offers advice on dust-collection devices, as well as a reminder of B.C. Fire Code regulations on their use.

It urges operators to asses their facilities, provide written dust-control programs for staff and train staff.

“The dust-control program should be communicated to all workers and include training on the program elements, including hazard awareness, specific safe work procedures, hazcom documentation and emergency preparedness.”

IF there was a “criminal component” what do you suppose the penalty for it would be? (This is Canada . Don’t forget.) If they started investigating it now, how long do you suppose it would take?