Must be nice to be friends of the Liberal government

Rob Van Adrichem makes $160,000 ?
Isn’t he the UNBC media person ?
WOW!

It must be nice to be in the private sector in comparable positions and span of responsibilities without having one’s compensation widely accessible rather than working for the public service and have “private” information made public.

Yet, every time we receive private service/goods from those corporations we pay a “tax” to those corporations for goods/services in a similar fashion that we pay tax and user fees to public bodies who provide us with goods/services.

The money comes from our pockets in both cases. Where is the equity?

What I would like to know is what Bond makes a year and what she will make per year once she is voted out next election and is still milking the public coffers.

Van Adrichem is the VP of External Relations.

He used to be Director of Communications and Public Relations.

http://www.unbc.ca/external/index.html

“What I would like to know is what Bond makes a year”

Ask her. Likely less than you think and less than the VP of UNBC External Relations.

Still Van Adrichem is paid twice what the mayor is paid… thats a little rich even for a university fiefdom. Is it any wonder student loans exceed corporate debt….

Problem is government is a monopoly and in the private sector if the government is doing its job there should be no private monopolies. Monopolies should have full disclosure as the only recourse the public has to ensure greed doesn’t run rampant unchecked.

You can look at what Shirley makes it’s also public info.

It’s on page 11.

http://www.fin.gov.bc.ca/OCG/pa/10_11/CRF_Detailed_Schedules_of_Payment.pdf

and most of you posters here claimed we where to greedy turning our contract down at PPWC (pulp mill)my salary with overtime being a tradesman isn’t a 1/4 of what these people are making….wheres all the bitching now……..

The Northern Health Authority President and Chief Executive Officer is listed as receiving total compensation of $373.2-thousand dollars for fiscal 2011/12.

A thousand dollars a day, including Saturdays, Sundays and Holidays! Wow! Not to mention a platinum plated pension…

I did ask her Gus.. she responded to me with some useless rhetoric.

Thanks for the link mwk :)

Van Adrichem is worth every penny. He is the one who has put UNBC on the map. Do your homework before anyone slams this guy. He started at UNBC as a student and has worked his butt off to make the UNBC shine. You want a class, ethical act? Van Ad is one and he continues to work like the energizer bunny.

I seem to remember Mr. Van Adrichem in his first year as a mouthpiece for that ivory tower up the hill stating “that you could see the Rockies” from the university”.
Salaries, eh?
That brings to mind a cliche and an adage.
First one saying, “Stay in school”.
Last one saying, “Ya pay peanuts, ya get monkeys”.

I want to know how to find out the salaries paid to the 2015 Winter Games executives. Ben or Elaine, do you know if those salaries are public?

Prov1, so quit your job and get one of those plumb public sector gigs. Just heard Canfor pulp slashed their dividend. Looks like things are tight. Hope you don’t price your mill out of the market.

Shirley Bond, and other Cabinet Ministers get paid $101,000, as an MLA, then 47000.00 more or less for being in Cabinet for a total of approx $150,000.00 plus expenses and travel.

I suspect that the **Big Wigs** on the Winter Games are being paid similiar to the Citys top Salaries. Ie; Over $200,000.00 per year. Or a cool $1 Million for a five year stint.

The key phrase in te above is: “…… detailed information on just how much SENIOR EXECUTIVES in the public sector are making.”

There are 5 individuals listed for Northern Health Authority. The one earning the least is listd at $238 thousand total compensation.

There are plenty of others on the payroll who earn over $125,000+ and into the $200,000+ range. They are just not SENIOR EXECUTIVES.

“Hope you don’t price your mill out of the market.”

Hope they don’t price the public service, healthcare and education out of the ability of the taxpayer to pay for!

It’s called the Greek Syndrome, a huge public service, overly bloated by 40% snd overpaid by more than that!

Why pick on those who work in a mill which produces an actual tangible product?

I think it would be very useful to post the requirements for these jobs along with the salaries. Then we would at least be in a position to see what sort of people would qualify and what those skill sets would typically garner in the private sector. If that is the benchmark, then let’s do it.

“Why pick on those who work in a mill which produces an actual tangible product?”

Who cares if the product is tangible? Are you suggesting that someone who makes lumber is inherently more valuable than someone who administers chemotherapy drugs?

Way to go Rob V. You deserve every penny as I think you have done an amazing job as the spokesperson for UNBC. I think they made the right choice when they hired you. Good on you being paid that kind of coin.

This is proof to me that we have a government out of control and cannot and will not sustain itself at these levels. In my view, nobody in government should be getting bonus’.

NMG:”Who cares if the product is tangible? Are you suggesting that someone who makes lumber is inherently more valuable than someone who administers chemotherapy drugs?”

Not at all! It’s your idea to even suggest an idea like that! Does someone who administers chemotherapy drugs make 373k per year? Do you know how much that person makes?

What do these super highly paid executives produce, the ones which are the subject of this story?

“Why pick on those who work in a mill which produces an actual tangible product?”

Cause that’s what those that think like the 1% do.

“Not at all! It’s your idea to even suggest an idea like that! Does someone who administers chemotherapy drugs make 373k per year? Do you know how much that person makes?”

When you say stuff like “Hope they don’t price the public service, healthcare and education”, I think it’s pretty fair to interpret that you were talking about the overall system and everything feeding into it, at least that was my take on it given that executive compensation alone is but a drop in a bucket when looking at overall costs.

To answer your question though, the executives don’t produce a “product” per se, but that is not their role. There are all sorts of jobs out there. Some people make things, some people fix things, some people design stuff, some people research, some people give advice, some people provide service to others, some people administer things, etc. Like I said, it’s really impossible to tell if $373K per year is reasonable unless you know what it is that person is doing and what they are responsible for. Perhaps it’s nuts and perhaps it’s in the ball park. In that job I wouldn’t be surprised if they were working 60+ hours a week, required extensive work history in a medical environment, significant experience managing a large complex organization and an education to match. These aren’t exactly jobs that can be filled with ease. 95% of the docs in PG probably wouldn’t even qualify to get an interview.

Oh and I’d hazard a guess that most full time nurses are making 80-90K. With lots of OT many are over 100K.

NMG, you made some very good points! I worked in both, hourly and salary. The bottom man gets a certain pay. Let’s call him A. Then B (the supervisor) gets what A gets plus another percentage above that. Then C (the manager, deputy or department head) gets what B gets plus another percentage above that. So it goes, all the way up the ladder. The person at the top of the ladder must get more than all the As, Bs, Cs, Ds, Es, etc. The top of the ladder job gets a pay and benefit package which MUST be better than the step on the ladder below it. At that point the pay may be more reflective of what the ladder principle demands then anything else.

Now I understand why they have all those positions between the workers and the CEO…the more vice presidents and middle managers the more they get paid!! How creative. :-)

I used to work for a relatively large organization in PG. While the median salary level of unionized employees were typically below the median level of excluded management emplopyees it was not uncommon for the excluded supervisors relatively new to the position to get paid less than seasoned profesionals at or near the top of their scale.

That was not uncommon at that time and I doubt it is uncommon now.

A link to incomes for 1,125 employees of Northern Health who made $75,000 + in 2010/2011. The average for those employees was about $92,500

http://www.northernhealth.ca/Portals/0/About/Financial_Accountability/documents/Employee%20Compensation%20&%20Expenses%20over%2075%20K.pdf

The message? It pays to have an education which is sought after?

BTW, over a 4 year span from 2006/2007 the number of people earning $75,000+ increased from 710 to 1,125 with an increase in the average salary of those individuals from %90,200 tp $92,500.

There was an increase in total employees from around 7,000 to about 7,500.

The total payroll went up from $279,315,378 to $324,194,670 a 16% increase.

Interesting that there is a total employee increase when the population covered by Northern Health has likely stayed steady and may even have dropped ….. but aged ….

“There was an increase in total employees from around 7,000 to about 7,500.”

When the news coverage about the problems in Greece began and the bailout conditions were first reported it was explained that Greece, with a population of one third of that of Canada had four times as many government employees.

If each of those additional government employees would have a similar unit productivity as a private sector employee having the same function, who cares?

Without additional information, we cannot reach a meaningful conclusion.

Take for instance health. In Canada the number of health workers working in the public rather than private helm per 10,000 population would be considerably higher than in the USA, I presume. Does it mean that we have more cost effective health care in Canada than the USA? Using that metric, we really would not know. We would have to look at the output, not just the input. My understanding is that one could argue that each has their good side and their bad side.

helm??? … helm = sector … sorry… :-)