Group To Re-Apply For Rezoning Of Haldi Rd Recovery Centre
Thursday, September 20, 2012 @ 8:56 AM
Prince George- The Northern Supportive Recovery Centre says the organization is applying to the City of Prince George to re zone the former Haldi road Elementary School.
In a media release the Recovery Centre’s Chair of the board, Dr Michelle Sutter says "Our community needs a safe and predictable environment where women and their families may embark on the healing journey of recovery and positive reconnection with family."
Dr. Sutter goes on to say "Like other development in Prince George this project has had technical issues that needed to be studied and addressed as the project proceeded. We feel these issues have been dealt with. We are aware there are neighbours who have questions or are opposed to this project but they do not outnumber the many neighbours and citizens who are supportive."
In the same release the Recovery Centre announced that Carol Worthington has been appointed the society’s new project administrator replacing Marshall Smith who had previously held the position but vacated it in January of this year.
The initial re zoning application had been overturned before Mr Justice John Truscott after the residents had taken the matter to court arguing that the old school and area were rural residential and the rezoining did not fall under the Official Community Plan.
Jan Sevin the person who took the City to court on the matter says “ I now understand the reasoning behind the re zoning that is taking place at city hall. We will do whatever is necessary to ensure this new zoning reflects the problem of Haldi Rd." Sevin adds “How are we supposed to trust the city?”
Sevin is referring to last Monday’s public hearing on a change to a zoning bylaw that calls for a tweaking of the definition of Community Care minor and Community Care major. The City has said the requested changes are to bring the City’s definitions in line with Provincial legislation and that the request is a result of calls for day care operations in the wake of the introduction of all day Kindergarten.
Sevin says." We have the funds and we will continue with this battle".
The matter of the rezoning of the former School to allow for a recovery centre came before City Council following last fall’s civic election. During the fourth and final reading Mayor Green excused herself from voting as Marshall Smith, the then project administrator, had been heavily involved in her election campaign.
During that vote, Brian Skakun was opposed along with Lyn Hall, and Murry Krause.
Those in favour were Councillors Dave Wilbur, Frank Everitt, Garth Frizzell , Albert Koehler, and Cameron Stolz.
The residents have argued that the matter of water for the new facility is their main concern in spite of the way in which the city handled the re zoning.
Comments
Good for the recovery centre!!!! I fully support it, we desperately need this facility in our community.
Brian Skakun, Roy Stewart and Murry Krause who only wants HIS recovery centre to proceed should hang their heads in shame!
Yes the community needs a recovery center, but Haldi Rd is NOT the location for such a project. The city owns lots of land they are doing NOTHING with, they should consider placing this facility in one of those locations. The residents we trying to make it clear they didn’t want that facility in there neighborhood. Surely the good doctor Sutter should be able to understand that as well as the other members of the board. Why is common sense not used when considering these things?
Just look at the number of out reach services crammed into the city core as it stands, clearly there is little healing going on when you have those who need help crammed into the city center with those who are on the downward side of hitting bottom wandering around pan handling, mooching and making deals around the downtown businesses.
Pulling one’s head out of there behinds and looking for a location that is conducive to healing and non invasive toward the surrounding residential properties would be in everyone’s best interests.
Yes a facility outside of the city core, and not in a residential area but a more rural area would be the best solution and more conducive toward the act of healing. Last thing the residents want is the drive by dealers and the low life’s that prey on those who are trying to heal anywhere near their homes.
A facility of this nature needs room, privacy, security and as little lure toward the destructive behavior that leads some of these folks to fall back into the rut they are trying to come out of. Maybe the board and counsel should consider having the facility place in there neighborhood and see how they would feel about it? Seriously these folks need to smarten up and dummy up before pushing a bad point any further. Look at placing this facility some where else but not in a residential area.
I wonder what is behind thisâ¦It must be lots of money for someoneâ¦The neighbourhood is NOT zoned for this, the people of the neighbourhood clearly donât want itâ¦the people fought the city and won⦠Issue deadâ¦correct NO… The old school has no city sewer or city water the road in not paved. I think the recovery center has so many more suitable places to set up in why this site???? MONEY for the owner⦠a school then to a house that was for sale for years now thisâ¦come on its over⦠wait money is on the table lets open it againâ¦MOVE ON
So everyone says “other suitable locations”. I would like someone to tell me some of these other suitable locations. So they are out there…….give us an idea where. And what do the residents of the area think the old school will be used for? Better a controlled addiction recovery centre and not some half way house or who knows what else. Classic NIMBY. Nothing more….nothing less.
good luck to Jan and the neighbors! With the new mayor in a conflict of interest and not able to participate, the vote will be close. What happens if it is a tie vote?
Does the mayor stick her nose back in seeing her campaign manager appears to have been pushed further aware from the project? Perhaps that is why those pushing for the change appear to have gone out of their way to mention smith’s supposed exit. Has anybody heard from our rookie mayor on this?
So everyone says “other suitable locations”. I would like someone to tell me some of these other suitable locations. So they are out there…….give us an idea where
How about the schools that are closed that the school board still owns? They would be suitable locations as they are already zoned as institutional.
According to the OCP and the recent court case all of this would appear to be that the city hands are tied until the city rewrites the OCP and will take a lot longer as they will be required to follow a process.
The Haldi area is a rural residence – a family dwelling. Technically reclassified and rezoned by the city years ago.
Is the public to believe that no one at all at city hall knew about this? highly unlikely…..
The problem is this group already blew a pile of money renovating the old school and doesn’t want to walk away from it. So maybe the Haldi Road folks should setup a facebook page for donations to help them pay for the next court battle. Or maybe they have one already?
So everyone says “other suitable locations”. I would like someone to tell me some of these other suitable locations. So they are out there…….give us an idea where.
How about the closed schools the school board still owns as they are still zoned as institutional.
Sure money is involved. I am sure the property owners don’t want to loose a battle :) Remember the old saying that “money talks” and there even may be an underlying party in politics….
The city would have to change the OCP to get this through. A long process to boot.
The centre and the owners all make money from me and you. Do you think a business person would go into something like this if they could not make money? Highly unlikely…..
As gets mentioned every time this comes up, elementary schools are placed as close to the center of a neighbourhood as possible. This is a far from ideal location for this type of facility, without taking the sewer and water issues into consideration.
If the owners pumped a bunch of money without having all the proper permits in place…too bad, should have had your ducks in a row first.
oops, posted twice. Thought I lost the first one
Guess the owners will be pumping more money into the residence as they moved it all out of the residence way before the court case. Maybe it was a ploy for the neighbourhood to think they were out for good. What a joke…
This is how things work: have one meeting and see what the public says, make note and use it for yourself and say “Hey, all the issues are resolved” The public has voiced concerns and we used it. The only thing is with the last fiasco it backfired in more ways then one.
With all the name calling from some people for this project the damage has been done no credibility. Calling the people in Haldi Road area Idiots and NIMBY is verbal abuse.
I cannot believe this issue is back to rear it’s ugly head – absolutely unbelievable. You are correct Lonesome Sparrow, in what you say. Guesswhat,, people that are reduced to name calling in the face of conflict is due to their own lack of confidence and because, lacking a sound argument, they have no where else to go with it. It is meant to intimidate their opponent with aggression and shut them up. As we grow up we hopefully learn that these tactics don’t work anymore, and we leave high school behind. I am so sorry to the Haldi Road residents, what a waste of your time and money fighting our own local government, with our own money. Does anyone know how much the last round in court cost the taxpayer?
Hey PGguy1234 how about in your back yard that is probably not zoned for it either. And having the City shove down your throat what they want and being able to change the zoning any way they want. This entire ordeal has nothing to do about a recovery center its money for the investors. They sunk a bunch of money in an old school to build something that in the whole scope of things has no place in a rural neighbourhood. Donât give me that NIMBY⦠Council looks after council no the average guy and money talks
Why not try to move it to the old Experimental Farm? They could learn to work the land, plant their own vegetables, cows, chickens… Oh wait… who did we give that to?
If this so called housekeeping issue of changing the zoning for day cares etc was a smokescreen to slide zoning for Haldi in under the radar there should be hell to pay at city hall. Good thing Janice is on her toes.
They tried to get it in through the back door once only to lose in court. Might have to think of them like what Bubbles thinks of chickens…..sneaky little bastards:)
No No Look out City.. Haldi will win again and we will get a new Mayor in the prosess
I think that people generally buy property/houses in a neighborhood like Haldi to be out of the city, and the problems associated with living in a city. I think they want a small acreage, to raise their kids on, away from exactly the type of people that would be helped with the recovery center.
So when they stand up for what they wanted, when they bought where they bought, people have the gall to call them NIMBY, like it’s a bad thing. Of course they don’t want this in their neighborhood. That’s why they live out there.
If there is a place to donate to their cause, I would like to know about it, as I would contribute what I can.
I sincerely hope they don’t back down.
The City should have accepted the outcome of the Court case and dropped this issue.
To try again, in view of the strong opposition is in fact a slap in the face to those who oppose this centre.
There are plenty of place’s in Prince George where a centre of the type can be located.
1. The Nechko Treatment Centre attached to the hospital, was a centre for the treatment of people with drug and alcohol problems. This centre functioned for 30 years, and was shut down by the Provincial Government a few years ago. This was a co-ed treatment centre, and a large number of women went through the facility over the years.
This building could be used if people were so inclined to use it, however I suspect that the Government wants to go the route of treatment centres run by societys so that they dont have to pay Union Wages, etc;
There was talk sometime ago about building a treatment centre at the old Huda Lake jail on Baldy Huges road. Why cant we now get serious about using this facility. Its been standing empty for a few years.
It seems to me this issue is more about vested interests getting their facility built, and then the cushy jobs, and Government funding that will follow. Much like what happend with the present centre at Baldy Hughes.
If the City continues down this road, then I suggest that we need to put immense pressure on the Councillors, Mayor,. and Administration to **Back Off**.
Pushing a huge number of people to the curb, to satisfy the wants of a few, is not the way to go. Using the argument that we need this facility (specific) to help these women is disingenuous. We can locate a facility somewhere in the City to meet this need, without upsetting a whole neibourhood.
“The City should have accepted the outcome of the Court case and dropped this issue.”
At this point all that has happened is the proponents of Haldi Road have said they are going to seek to have the property rezoned. They will still have to jump through all the hoops in that process.
The one thing I do wonder about is that now that Marshall has left will the mayor say the conflict of interest is no longer there? I sure hope that is not the case as IMO a conflict still exists.
This is interesting seems like the centre cannot get themselves straight. I was reading an article on HQPrinceGeorge and here is what the spokes person said:
“Northern Supportive Recovery Centre spokeswoman Dr. Michelle Sutter says…..”
Looks like they are having more communication problems not just with the Haldi people but within their own organization.
So a question is who is actually the spokesperson. ;)
http://www.hqprincegeorge.com/home/news/Local/12/09/20/Women-s-Recovery-Centre-Proponents-Not-Giving-Up
darn it didn’t post the link properly. I am sure people can cut and paste ;p
This will be interesting to see how our elected Mayor and council handle this one. My gut tells me that there are a few favours owed to some and will end up in court again. The ruling of a Supreme Court Judge was not good enough. City will just change the OCP to suit the agenda of the scotch club. Money people with a greedy agenda are pushing our society to the brink of an explosion and some local politicians are promoting this.
Again the Haldi rd community is getting messages like this is a done deal. The Women’s Recovery Centre has its new website up and running, advertising the former Haldi Rd school as its location. The difference now is that the community will not be bullied or intimidated by this type of manipulation.
Palopu wrote:The City should have accepted the outcome of the Court case and dropped this issue.
To try again, in view of the strong opposition is in fact a slap in the face to those who oppose this centre.
Don’t want to defend the city but they cannot even stop people from trying a second time.
This city needs to realize it is not a fight anymore for just the Haldi people it is of all the people in this city. How many times has something gone through such as BBK etc.
Did some research for you;)
Everyone that agrees this is not right or is against this should be writing into city hall.
Email to: Ddery@city.pg.bc.ca addressed to Mayor and Council of the City of Prince George.
Letters need to be written in regards to the new bylaws city is trying to propose Amendment Bylaw for Zoning Bylaw No. 7850, 2007 – Community Care Facility Minor and Community Care Major before the Oct 1/12 public meeting and the same or another letter against having the centre at Haldi road. I am sure the people of the area would appreciate it.
“the request is a result of calls for day care operations in the wake of the introduction of all day Kindergarten”
Wouldn’t all day kindergarten reduce the number of kids in daycares because now they are in school.
Rezoning still does not resolve the issue of sewer and water. Would it not make sense to find a location that has city services?
Gladstone school in College Heights is available AND vacant. Close to transportation and everything. Im sure the neighbouring folks wont complain. Lotsa water and sewer there. This renewed effort is called, in my opinion an end run. I seem to recollect after the feds and the province told the city that they wouldnt pass out any dough for the Performing Arts Centre, the city manager, said it looks like we wil have to persue other avenues instead of admitting defeat.When a city has about $111 million dollars of debt, lawyers are nickel and dimes and spare change.
The city gave information on daycares as their evidence in court in regards to the city having appropriate Community Care minor and Community Care major facilities in the city limits.
We may solve this problem with a civic election.
I love my neighbourhood and my neighbours. Let’s hope we have the heart to make a huge step in the right direction.
Dear Professional:
The city has nothing to do with âplacingâ this facility anywhere⦠it is the NSRCW who is applying for a small change to the zoning.
The purpose of the location being OUT of the city core is to increase the amount of healing that will occur.
The site IS non-invasive. Have you been there?
Trust me, living out here I know that there are plenty of dealers already dealing in the Haldi area, specifically in the empty parking lot of an abandoned school actually.
I would, hope and would be proud to have this facility in my neighbourhood, the HALDI NEIGHBOURHOOD!!! ;-)
Dear Commonsence:
There will be no owner of this facility, it will be run as a NOT FOR PROFIT agency.
And speaking of money isnât it Sevin herself who says. “We have the funds and we will continue with this battle”. Clearly whomever these people are, they are over-privileged and narrow minded with their own hidden agendas.
Dear Mitch2:
Rookies often outshine the aging players with zest and new moves to bring a team to victory!
Dear NoWay:
Fact or Ficiton?
I have looked in at the Haldi School and there have not been any expensive renovations there⦠itâs basically been gutted. Nothing was ever brought into the school other than a few office supplies.
Dear guesswhat:
Being a supporter of the center I have withstood verbal abuse, harassment and had to put up with people throwing out generalizations and negative/derogatory and even racially inappropriate terms when talking about who âmightâ be a client of the center. I have felt threatened by a few of my neighbours and shunned by them. It is sad that the neighbourhood attended the open house and the âloudest bunchâ took over the floor not allowing time or comfort for any real dialogue to occur. The facility had(s) an open door policy for anyone to start dialogue at any time but nobody shows interest in dialogue⦠they just show interest in the imaginary (media) âbattleâ they have created themselves.
Dear financially_frustrated:
I believe that the âold experimental farmâ belongs to the Lheidli Tâenneh. I hope that there wasnât any inferred meaning in that statement. Oh wait⦠that was a totally racist jab, wow!
Dear lonesome sparrow:
The proposed zoning changes for daycares have absolutely NOTHING to do with this facility, and has NO EFFECT on its zoning. Iâm sure Janiceâs lawyer got a pretty penny for convincing her of that fact and encouraging her to seek further council in order to help script her âdefenceâ.
Dear News2me:
Can you please define and quantify your reference to âthe type of people that would be helped with the centerâ?
And no amount of money can buy your way into or out of heaven, if you believe in that.
Dear Palopu:
The city has not done anything here⦠it is the recovery center who has applied. Why do people keep thinking that the city has ANYTHING to do with this aside from assessing the zoning application.
Also, any money given by the govât comes with ridiculous strings attached which is why many of these types of facilities fail, they cannot operate in a very structured and successful abstinence based methodology.
Huda Lake Jail⦠sounds like a great place to go for recovery. Iâm sure that will make any addict address and overcome their deep rooted issues which have caused them to self-medicate. Donât people hang themselves in jail?
Dear Guesswhat:
Guesswhat, there are often two or three spokespersons for any organization/board of directors⦠not everyone is available all of the time.
Dear littlebird:
Wow you have great ears. I live in Haldi and havenât received any messages. Maybe I should look to the sky for smoke signals, I can smell the moose smoking on Leslie Road todayâ¦mmm smells delicious! (no joke there, seriously!) Smells better than the burning rubber from the truck that keeps spinning it out here lately.
Dear Readers:
If you support this facility you should do exactly as Guesswhat said, write to the city with your letters of support. ï
There is also a facebook group for supporters and anyone who would like to contact me, especially if you are in the Haldi area feel free to contact me.
Healthy communities start here!
To get involved contact:
wesupportrecovery@hotmail.com
Haldi Resident
If the court case is any indication, her lawyer knows more about zoning than anyone at city hall.
More permitted uses for any particular zoning can be added at a later date(such as adding a treatment center to Community care minor and major)
Haldi Resident –
You are saying there is a problem in the Haldi area – does not sound to safe or allow for no temptation out there. Comforting
Sounds like you do not actually know anyone out there if you think they are over-privileged – Not all houses are mansions out there and some homes are even rented. As for being narrow minded – who are you to judge people?
Went of the website – These are pitcure from the organizations first website – new carpets, furniture, pitcures, a brand new kitchen that has been gutted, beds have been removed only to name a few.
Only one public meeting, residents to my understanding had dropped by and no one there except for the contractors doing all the work”
Hmmm. supreme court evidence from city was the community care – daycare- amounts and places in the city.
Sound like you do know know Janice – is she not your neighbour? – somehow I don’t think she is that easy to convince without the facts. How and what defence did the lawyer “script”?
Obviously you have not been out to “Huda Lake Jail” Does not look like a jail at all more like a retreat area. Great expense was put into Hudta Lake to make it that way. How do I know because facilitated there. Yes people do hang themselves in jail, some have even harmed themselves from removing themselves from other types of centres as well..
I apologize for generalizing and stating that “whoever these people are, they are over-privileged and narrow minded with their own hidden agendas”. I admit I did not put enough effort in that statement to say what I meant. I did not intend to generalize attack or offend any individuals, be it homeowner or renter.
I just think people need to consider what their interpretation of “over-privileged” is and consider what âprivilegeâ is as well as its ramifications and implications to a society/neighbourhood in order to open their minds to other perspectives. Shutting the door, focusing on methods of attack and rallying support by splitting a neighbourhood, shutting people out like they have to me, is by far not open minded. I accept that people have their opinions and are entitled to it as long as it is not based on discrimination, false information or is abusive in any nature. Privilege is also a matter of perspective. I consider myself over privileged, but not narrow minded. With my privilege I intend to âdo goodâ with it for everyone. I already do so by many ways in which I heedlessly give back to my community without expecting return and without judgement of those who are less privileged than I. I have come from times of poverty to where I am at now, able to stand on my own two feet and support my whole family. I have the privilege of education, I have the privilege of critical thinking, I have the privilege of insight knowing both sides of the story, and I have the privilege of strength to stand up for what I believe is right. Unfortunately, not everyone is as strong or considerate as I try to be.
I have a busy life and when I am at my dwelling on Haldi Road I am often enjoying my time with my kids in the beautiful atmosphere out here. Because of this I don’t know too many of my neighbours all that intimately, I just know them in passing and truly wish that we could be closer. I would love to go for a coffee and visit any of my neighbours. I would love to join them for a walk. But I also donât want to intrude on their lives. I am shy. I figure and hope that if they are interested and when they are ready that they will invite me as one of the newer neighbours to meet their families, let our kids play, go for a walk even. Unfortunately there is much distance between houses and there have been very few opportunities for the neighbourhood to socialize positively without the division of opinion getting in the way. I say hi to people and usually they say hi back.
I have tried to join community events but have been shut out of them and shunned for my support. I hope that I can make friends out here regardless of stance on this topic. It is simple and complicated. Some people are unable to see past the controversy out here to extend a hand and say hello and welcome and embrace me into their neighbourhood. Others are welcoming and social and luckily some behave in what I consider a rational manner regardless of differences in perspective. I disregard the personal attacks I have endured over the course of this controversy by some and focus on forgiveness and understanding. We all fight for what we believe is right and I will never judge anyone for standing up and taking a stance for what they believe in. So again, I apologize for my earlier comment and hope that this explains what I was meaning to say.
rephrase:
Some people are unable to see through the fog of controversy to extend a hand and say hello and welcome and embrace me (and/or the center) into their/our neighbourhood.
I just like to quote something that I saw mentioned in regads to location of this facility.
“The best setting for this is not the middle of a forest, but in the heart of a community.
It takes a community to raise a child, and it takes a community to heal the child within.”
Since I suspect there is a readership here from the Haldi area:
You know what would be really cool for our neighbourhood?
Neighbourhood/community gatherings where everyone is invited to join in a bbq and dance. A neighbourhood message board for posting community events, information, lost pets, haves and needs of residents…
It would be easier to rally for support of what we need like the potholes fixed, better snow removal, a community block watch program for suspicious activities which everyone can admit they have seen freqently out here (not that that should scare anyone, it happens in every neighbourhood regardless of location and nearby facilities).
If anyone is aware of or interested in creating or joining a community group to make things like this happen I would love to join forces and have positives come out of this!
Again, my email is wesupportrecovery@hotmail.com and you don’t have to be a supporter to contact me if you are just interetd in giving me information or forming a positive community group. Recovery can be a non-topic for such a group.
Does anyone know if there is one out there for this neighbourhood already?
Haldi Resident?
Do the Haldi people owe you something? You sound as though you feel that the neighbourhood is extremely lucky that you chose to live there? If so explain what you contribute to the neighbourhood? IE Playground, Tennis courts, Park cleanup! Right that was before your time. Your attitude speaks for itself and is the most un welcoming feature about you.
I for one accept your appology, many things we say in life can be misinterpreted by anyone.
You mention you have a busy life and I am sure others in the area do also. I am confused though as you mention some say hello and others don’t – that happens in every neighbourhood. Embrace the acquaintance you have met. Your comments: “I say hi to people and usually they say hi back.” “Others are welcoming and social and luckily some behave in what I consider a rational manner regardless of differences in perspective.” Does not sound to be that bad of a neighourhood if some are friendly.
Many people in this world have brought themselves up from poverty etc. – man & woman. If you are interested in seeing if there is a block watch contact the RCMP Community. Opinions are opinions – to each their own. There are people in communities that give and most people are not even aware of it.
I don’t know if there have been any “community events” in the Haldi area except for ones that were posted on mailboxes (of which you may be aware have been torn down now and then). Those were put up to the public for all neighbours were they not? Many people have parties and invite family and friends and not their neighbour – happens all the time. People socialize around people they are comfortable with.
Haldi Resident – why not encourage the Lheidli Tâenneh to allow the group to put in a women’s treatment centre on the Blackwater site – or the experimental farm?
There is direction from a judge as to how the Mr wood can rezone his property. The NSRCW as you put it cannot apply for the zoning as it does not own the property. Because of the direction from the judge the “City” does in fact have to “place” it there or turn down the application.
I imagine they cannot drop the school from the radar as the society must have debt – do you think Mr Smith worked for free for 8 months? I would imagine they cannot tap into any provincial or federal monies until they are up and running
Haldi Resident-you need to understand that our neighbourhood was built by the people who have lived here for 20, 30, 40 years. that is why we want to keep it the way it is. Many of us work in healthcare, education and social services so please do not assume that we do not care. By allowing any facility is going against the city’s own bylaws that they implemented. Because something is morally right do you break the law to put it in? As for a few of your rants, I feel a need to reply. There is an owner of the school. In fact there are 3 and they will be making money so don’t kid yourself. As for being over-privileged, I call that a life time of working hard to achieve what I have. And please take a drive out to Hutda Lake. It is in a beautiful setting with a lake, pastures and barn. A truly remote setting that will enable healing without any outside influences. Really, the city bus is 300 ft away from haldi rd school. And as for my smoke signals, well I call it the internet. Google is truly amazing. And lastly the community did have a wonderful family get together where everyone was invited a week ago. Its too bad you didn’t attend as you would have been welcomed.
Wow technology is a #$@ sometimes eh. I just had this great positive response and lost it all. I think everything happens for a reason so I will leave it at this, in summary:
(-unfortunately much of my yes you are rights and further discussion was lost)
Thank you all for the great much needed dialogue.
Again my apologies if I have offended anyone at any time. I try only to speak from my heart with good intention as I am sure we all do. My contribution to this dialogue was intended to balance the debate a bit.
I look forward to the next community event as I hope I can take your word littlebird that I will be welcome to attend :) Thank you.
And again, if anyone wishes to contact me for any reason you can eamil me at wesupportrecovery@hotmail.com
Don’t worry, I don’t expect that the email address will convert you if you are not in support, I just want to keep the doors open to dialogue if anyone so wishes.
Why would anyone want to contact you haldi resident? Just so you can lable our community. You try painting a picture of oh poor you. Get real.
“My contribution to this dialogue was intended to balance the debate a bit.”
What debate is that Haldi Resident?
So you never mentioned if you knew Jan “ice”. I would have thought with all your forgiveness you may have come across her at sometime by now. Have you not met her?
Appears she must be holding up after being called NIMBY, Idiot to name a few… The people that seem to be doing all the name calling are the ones for this project….
I do find your words contradicting – that you were not ever at any meetings when they have all been posted on the mailboxes in your area.
I am sure you will be welcome at the next community meeting out in the Haldi area as it will likely be to listen to the proponets of the centre.
According to the centres website that has been up and running for a while. Cut and paste.
http://pg-designs.ca/ladies/?page_id=272
this is where they intend to get payment – our tax dollars….Last I heard was close to $4000. a month each person?
The Northern Supportive Recovery Centre for Women will strive to build strong relationships with stakeholders and referral agencies in Northern British Columbia and the Province as a Whole. We are committed to ongoing meaningful consultation with stakeholders, with a view to provide current best practices and service excellence.
Ensuring that The Northern Supportive Recovery Centre for Women is the correct fit for its clients, referrals will be accepted from the following service providers.
1. Treatment/rehabilitation Centers
2. Addiction related service agencies and counsellors
3. RCMP
4. Ministry of Social Development
5. Ministry of Children and Family Development
6. First Nations Aboriginal organizations
7. Women-serving organizations
8. British Columbia Health Authorities
9. Womenâs ministries
10. Other British Columbia service agencies
The province must be making promises somewhere for our public funds to pay for this…..
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