Where have all the moose gone
Hunters in the Prince George and surrounding area are finding it more and more difficult to find a moose every year. I am fortunate to be able to take 5 to 7 weeks off ever hunting season. I have talked to a lot of hunters and they are leaving the bush year after year with no meat in the freezer. Lots of hunters are against cow calf season, they believe that by taking the cow or calf is depleting future moose, according to fish and wildlife 10 moose poached in one area is a lose of 60 to 70 moose in five years. They also say that only 2% of poaching incidents are reported.
So this being true why are they allowing cow/ calf season. I talked to a conservation officer a couple years ago, and when I asked him why they have it. His response was I quote (Its to generate money) I asked him if he would give me that in writing, he replied no I like my job. The poaching in BC is at an all time high, I have found 4 large bulls in 4 consecutive years that have been shot and left. All these moose were shot on the road. So if I can find 4 moose shot and left in one area, how many are left each year. There are not enough conservation officers in the Prince George area, their needs to be a lot more. Now let’s look at natural predators wolfs and bears do kill moose and they always have and yes they do take a lot down. Since all teran vehicles have come out, hunters have been shooting moose in areas that were so remote where before they would not even think of shooting one. So these remote pockets of moose are getting less.
The BC government would have you believe that wolfs are the main cause of the moose lose. This is a lot further from the truth than they would have you believe.
They will not blame themselves for total gross negligent are their part.
When the LEH hunting cards first came out they told us give us ten years and we would have an over abundant of moose in BC. That was over 30 years ago and still here we are. When I asked a Biologist what he had to say about a alack of moose In Prince George area. He informed me that the moose population has been stable for years. These guys need to get out in the field more and quit looking at numbers and graphs. The hunting questioner that is supposed to be filled out ever year for those that hunt is a joke. I know a lot of hunters that throw them in the garbage or just outright lie on them. Do you really think that poachers fill them out correctly? So for them to use this information to base how many animals are harvested every year is a bigger joke.
What is worse is they extended calf season. Your trading 140lb animal for one that’s 340 lbs the following year. And those of you that say 140 lbs of meat is all you need is hogwash, ever hunter I run across that is hunting cow/calf there is always at least two of you. A lot of cows shot in October are already pregnant, so you are killing up to 3 moose. Now lets look at the BC biggest killer CN Rail, they kill thousands of moose, deer, elk, etc you name it. If it is on the tracks they kill it. This happens every year in our province. There is nothing done about it. Sections where animals are being hit the most need to be fenced off, runaway lanes need to be plowed when the snow is deep. We are building overpasses on our highways to protect our wildlife, why are we not doing something on our rail tracks, because the average Joe does not see the carnage on the tracks he sees on the highway. Take a trip on the passenger train in late spring to McBride or Terrace, ever 100 meters there is a blood splatter. I talked to a Train man that had made 23 trips to Chetwynd in a 4 week period he told me that he hit 21 moose, times that by how many trains are running around the clock. He’s supposed to phone it in so they will come out and dispatch the animal that’s laying there with its legs cut off. He told me he does phone it in but He sees the animal still laying there 24 hours latter. He also told me that his boss has told him to speed up when he sees an animal not slow down. This I imagine is so they don’t have to pay someone to come out and kill it. I was told that as much as 15000 moose have been killed in the last 2 years by CN Rail. Its Getting worse not better. The government Would have you spend your hard earned dollars on tags, license, fuel, groceries, etc.
And have you believe the moose population is alive and well.
I know of a few guys that don’t hunt anymore, they have taken matters into there own hands by putting in cow draws and if they get the draws they put them in their desk and don’t use them. If 10 cows are saved that means an increase of 60 to 70 moose in 5 years are saved. So if you know any one that does not hunt, have them put in cow draws since BC Biologist is more interested in keeping the money flowing then in conservation.

Looks like no hockey season :(

Lol..his boss told him to speed up…trains don’t just speed up..it takes time to increase the speed on a train. You may want to chek with just one source for validity.

Ban all hunting for 5 years.

Working in Edmonton this week… Gas is $1.12 EVERYWHERE in Edmonton

Work those 5 to 7 weeks and hunt at Costco or your local butcher! You will even have extra for a few beer!

You could always support your local hockey Brownshoe! I heard the Spruce Kings had a team this year!

doneright

looks like the same post as last year?

doneright

looks like the same post as last year?

Funny I never seem to have trouble running into moose every year. Weather it be legal ones or ones that are not legal in that area that a guy has to pass on. I agree that I sure don’t run into moose as much on the roads as there used to be but maybe they are all just tired of the traffic. The way and places that I hunt are full of moose. I am having a tough time seeing a decline in moose populations. Sure it is tough to find a miracle bull(two point) but time and effort are needed to find one but that just makes it more rewarding. To all those that I see driving around looking for moose maybe get out of your truck or side by side and go for a walk you would be surprised at how many moose are out there watching you drive by.

I’m all for a ten year ban on hunting for EVERYONE!! However I do admit that i may have a detrimental effect on the natives. That said…if we don’t do something there won’t be any moose for anyone anywhere…

onefingertyper

looks like the same post as 3 minutes ag0:)

Too many out of season moose being shot and left by those who like to shoot now, identify later. It’s happening all the time. It’s illegal and unethical to do so but that doesn’t stop it from happening.

Came across this excellent New York Times documentary video this week about Malala Yousafzai, the 15 girl who was shot by the Taliban, it is a few years old but was amazed how bright and articulate an 11 year old can be. Good news is that she is doing better since arriving in England.

Watched on the day that some of the details on how Amanda Todd was bullied came out. IMO this video should be required viewing in school, might make the kids realize how good they have it compared to other parts of the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/10/09/world/asia/100000001835296/class-dismissed.html

One word of warning, there are some EXTREMELY graphic images but they are an important part of the story.

Back to the Roundabout. I would like to see a lot more roundabouts installed in BC and more specifically in PG. Does anyone else agree with me?

I find the roundabout to be fast, efficient, and more importantly SAFE. There are no cross traffic left turns in a roundabout. Simply enter and exit traffic from the right.

And as a side benefit, there is no red light to wait for which saves gas and patience for the motorists that don’t like waiting in traffic. Rarely do you have to stop at a roundabout as they are typically yield signs and you often don’t come to a complete stop even when yielding to traffic in the roundabout.

I think we should be lobbying city hall for all new intersections to be roundabouts rather than traffic lights.

Thoughts??..

Heyyy…. Any thoughts on lawyers in this town?? N how there is no competition?? Monopoly by a few. Kinda like gas companies

I have no problem finding moose I have 3 in my yard almost every day eating my trees.

Hummer:” I think we should be lobbying city hall for all new intersections to be roundabouts rather than traffic lights.”
I believe the city has this in mind already. At least they did before their Transportation Engineer’s job was cut. He was a great advocate of roundabouts pushed for them whenever he got the chance. I think one was even briefly considered jointly with the Ministry for Hwy 16 and Domano when it was realigned.

Where have all the moose gone
Hunters in the Prince George and surrounding area are finding it more and more difficult to find a moose every year.
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Well may be they need to get off thier ATV and stay in their vehile cuase there are lots of moose up on Tymner Blvd. Almost hit one the other nighjt.
Cheers

A few weeks ago I read the headlines in newspapers that Jesus Christ was married and had a wife. A couple of days ago while at the hospital I observed a nun passing me by in a corridor. I am confused now.

Hmmm, I spotted a cow and calf moose up on the trail across from the entrance to UNBC last night.

Calves are open until Oct 25th. I have a moose tag. Very interesting.

Time to shine up my broadheads perhaps?

people in this city have to learn to Merge and Yeild before they try such a feat as a roundabout

i meant Yield

We have a championship winning University Basketball team…GO TIMBERWOLVES!!!

I read that after the big Crucifixion and resurrection hoax Jesus settled in Greece and opened up a gay brothel partnered buy his Apostolos….

not that there`s anything wrong with that…

StillSmokin, look in the phone book under lawyers and you will see that there are a fair number of lawyers still in PG.

For all you hockey fans out there, make the most of the lack of NHL hockey and support your local teams (and the UNBC basketball teams). Good for the local economy if we do this!

If God can hear all of our prayers…. what do you need church for?

If Santa delivering prezzies from the sky down the chimney of every household on the planet in one night sounds absurd, how does God answering all our prayers at once seem logical?

Because you know, God really had nothing better to do than to make sure Kyle Busch won another NASCAR race on Sunday. Why else would he thank God for winning?

…OK now you’ve got me started! :-D

how about a roundabout at 97 and 16,,lots of wasted fuel burnt there.

There’s an article on CTV news about “Canadians can forget its innocent until proven guilty”.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/skurka-s-spin-canadians-can-forget-it-s-innocent-until-proven-guilty-1.1002589

This article tells how people are branding others as guilty before trial.

Understandable given the lax court system this country has and the justice system that doesn’t bring justice.

How many Canadians are disgusted by swindlers, pedophiles, and murderers, getting released on bail 2 years after they went in?

Is it ridiculous? I think it is!

I feel the Core Service Review has been a “fix” right from the start. KPM is not independat research company – as climed.

They represent the intrests of the private enterpriser who are looking to purchase public assest and fire sale prices.

If KPMG was seriously in the business to assit our city,and others, their only options would not be to “cut, gut, and sell off”

I do not agree with our Mayor, I believe she is misguided in her direction and our city will suffer as a result of her decission to sell off and cut our services.

I can only hope she is a “one term” mayor

To bornandbred– If U ever had to find a lawyer, U’ll notice there isn’t as many as one might think. N they also let each other know who was at their place of business, hence, lack of competition, never mind the rates they all charge, for it’s all the same. so much for privacy.

To Hummer—- I totally agree with ya. :(

Really wish some idiot hunters who trespass on “posted” Private property would respect that, but these guys were from other areas of the province, couldn’t care less. If it says “No Trespassing” stay away.

In Canada the Canadian Federation of Independent Business says the unfunded liability for civil servants alone is $300 billion, and would take a $9,000 contribution from every taxpayer to rectify. Like that will ever happen. The conclusion is simple. In a low-rate, low-growth, low-return world teetering on the edge of deflation with 50% of people living paycheque-to-paycheque, defined pension plans are too good to last. There is no government that will step in and rescue teachers who make $80,000 a year, then expect to retire on $60,000.

http://www.greaterfool.ca/2012/10/19/it-could-be-worse/

Is anyone out there how the UN is meddling more and in our lives and threatening Canadian soiventry. Examples, wanting the serial numbers of Canadian citizen owned firearms. Textbook standards governed by the UN sponsored by Saudi Arabia that bastion of democracy and female rights. The UN to govern our environment.

Time to disband the money sucking UN.

Everyone seem to be wondering where all the moose have gone to…??? They are up by UNBC probably getting an education.. on how to outsmart the hunters.. They got smart and staying away from the hyways due to the pollution :)

Harbinger, quit do’in that. I choked on my beer! What a waste.
The virgin Mary had a baby, so did I. Too damn funny!

A big yes! to roundabouts, they only make sense. Too many trafic lights on the main routes through town, in every direction.
Thumbs down to poachers.
We have not seen many moose in the area this year, going back to last winter in fact. Have a nice week end.
metalman.

In Canada the Canadian Federation of Independent Business says the unfunded liability for civil servants alone is $300 billion,
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I wouldnr believe a thing that these clowns tell us. They are probusiness and would have us all work on a minimum wage. Besides if civil services get $300 buillion which sounds like a lot of hoky, it will stay in our economy. Or is it more productive if you give a corporatiln a tax break and the rest of the profit goes off shore.

And how many times will I have to repeat myself that the teachers tax fund is not all tax dollars. The teachers contribute 7% and the gavernment contributes 6&into the fund. these contributions go to the Investment Corporation that today has 80 billion in assets.

So Charles if you didnt spend all your money on a big truck and invested some of it in a pension plan you to could have a nice pension like the teachers and myself.
Cheers