Good to see Debora running, at least there’s someone out there who has some experience.

Booooo. I hope she changes her mind. She screwed up the Horizon Air contract when she was in charge of that! Then she went on a witch hunt after Brian Skakun when he informed the public of council hiding stuff from us. Brian was honest. No place for her. Also Horizon should have been 2 trips per week not 2 trips per day. She cost PG $400,000. Politics and Munoz don’t mix.

Munoz was voted out the last civic election for a number of reasons. For me, I need someone that will listen to the facts and not their “heart” especially when it comes to special interest groups..It costs the taxpayers to much money……

Being union member all the years that I worked politcs and unions dont mix. But if its Monoz desire to be a poltician I wish her luck. She never did impress me as a go for the throat politician.

Every union rep in the area have tride to be politicians but have never made it. There appear to be mors anti union voters the there are members that should vote for them but it nver happens.
Cheers

western: “Then she went on a witch hunt after Brian Skakun when he informed the public of council hiding stuff from us. Brian was honest.”

Who told you that? Brian Skakun?

Western.????

The Horizan air Contract was cancelled before it ran for a year, and therefore cost the City $150,000.00 not $400,000.00.

There were never two (2) trips per day. Just one trip, and it was rarely if ever more than half full.

Posted by: guesswhat on November 6 2012 10:08 AM

Munoz was voted out the last civic election for a number of reasons. For me, I need someone that will listen to the facts and not their “heart” especially when it comes to special interest groups..It costs the taxpayers to much money……

I agree. I think maybe the Liberals will get that seat. She does not belong in politics with her bias for special interest groups, but that’s what NDP has always stood for. The NDP certainly has a no idea how to balance a budget. Red tape is their platform.

Retired 02- Since you seem to be “retired”, you should probably spend more time checking the spelling of your rants.

WHY?

Northern Citizen – At least Retired 02 jokes about himself when he makes errors. More than I can say for some….Do yourself a favour and quit judging others…

Weren’t Munoz and Skakun an item at one time?

“The NDP certainly has a no idea how to balance a budget.”

Interesting. Please do explain, then, how the NDP had three balanced budgets at the end of their last term in office. In fact, weren’t they in surplus by over a billion dollars on at least one of them?

All frittered away by the Liberals, of course, the borrow and spend party.

I have known Debora as a coworker for many years and she will make a good MLA.

NDP is as awful as the rest on budgets. I can’t wait to see the business exodus that BC will have to deal with when Adrian starts cranking on the corporate tax to cover the missing carbon tax money that he is going to give to transit.

Interesting how conservatives and other right-wingers whine about how left-wing parties cater to “special-interest groups” when the focus is on providing for the masses, but when the Liberals ignore the populace and toss money to corporations, it’s all about the “best interests of everyone”.

Ammonra: “Interesting. Please do explain, then, how the NDP had three balanced budgets at the end of their last term in office.”

Firstly, budgets are a plan, not what is or was actually spent.

Secondly, does the term ‘fudge-it budget’ mean anything to you? In case you forgot, the NDP made it popular last time they were in power.

Good one Krusty!!!!

I am perfectly well aware of what the word budget means, JohnnyBelt, although I think that many political commentators and rabidly anti-NDP types do confuse budgets with actual spending. The facts are that the NDP had three spending periods at the end of their last term in which there was a surplus of funds after everything had been paid for. The Liberals came in and immediately gave that money (a billion and a half dollars) to their corporate friends because reducing taxes would provide more income, a self-evidently ridiculous way of budgeting for an improved provincial economy. Now it is clear that they have done that almost every budget period since then, showing just how incompetent they are about managing the province’s money.

Secondly, does the statement that “the Liberals have had the biggest deficits in BC that it has ever had in its whole history” mean anything to you? In case you forgot, that was the case a year or two ago. Or was it more than once, I forget?

I have never claimed the Liberals are perfect. They had to navigate through the worldwide economic collapse, etc. That being said, let’s not hold up the NDP as the gold standard in terms of fiscal responsibility and budgeting excellence.

There was a reason they were voted into non-party status ten years ago. It wasn’t because they were well loved and were performing well. And even crazier, it seems the poplace wants to return Glen Clark’s right hand man to power. Sad.

Surely the NDP didn’t approach this woman to run for nomination. Why would Debora Munoze do this? To supplement the income lost when she was unelected in this community. I am a member of the Nechako-Lakes NDP, and have never seen her in our area at all. This saddens me, having her run for my party is certain to make my party lose, when this is the opportunity to put in an experienced person who knows our issues in Nechako-Lakes. Go away, Debbie, we didn’t ask for you.

How often do you see John Rustad in your area ?

So you say the Liberals should be excused due to a worldwide economic collapse at the end of their time as government. OK! Now explain what their excuse is for the dismal record of budgetary incompetence during their other 8 or 9 years in office.

Let’s not forget that the NDP had to contend with two major problems. The first was the Federal government cutbacks in health transfers which severely strained BC’s resources. Even so, BC under the NDP the province did not cut as much in health as did almost every other province as a consequence. The second was the Asian economic meltdown, particularly Japan, which had a severe effect on BC.

While the NDP economic performance during those difficult times may not be a gold standar, the Liberal performance during the last ten years or so, which by and large have been good times, is absolutely atrocious.

During productive economic times the liberals have driven the province ever deeper into debt, borrowing more than twice the amount the NDP did during difficult times. There was no reason for that other than a perverse economic dogma of filling the pockets of their supporters by reducing taxes, then reducing them even more, all the while increasing fees for everything they can think of for the ordinary Joe to pay. That still continues, doesn’t it? Or do you feel, perhaps, that paying more for run of river electricity than you can charge for it is good economic policy. I think its garbage, but no different than the “reduce taxes and increase income”, that we had before from them.

Yet still some people have their blinders on so they can’t see reality trotting along beside them and want to re-elect these gross incompetents. Now THAT is what is sad!

To proudgammi I would say that they should go to the nomination meeting and make their opinion known. As an NDP member you will be well aware that the NDP is firmly committed to the principles of democracy and whoever is selected as the candidate will have been elected into that position. Indeed, the fact that there is more than one candidate presenting themselves is absolutely guarantees that. If she has done nothing else, Debora can be thanked for that, win or lose.

I agree with you ammonra. Democracy is a beautiful thing, it is the voice of the people being heard. That voice spoke clearly when she was un-elected as councillor. Sour taste in many mouths.

Ammonra: “So you say the Liberals should be excused due to a worldwide economic collapse at the end of their time as government.”

I didn’t say they should be ‘excused’ for anything. Please stop putting words in my mouth. But don’t let that get in the way of a good rant.

“Yet still some people have their blinders on so they can’t see reality trotting along beside them and want to re-elect these gross incompetents. “

Couldn’t have said it better myself. The NDP being the incompetent ones of course.

And in case you all forgot, and many of you did apparently… the 90’s were boom times in Canada and the world, but not in BC under the NDP.

Actually the reason I said it was good she was a candidate for the NDP, I don’t think the Conservatives will take them. Doubt either would be accepted by Liberals as a candidate, in my opinion, not much there.
Ah, politics, all fun and games eh?

Unions used to be a useful tool years ago, think they don’t do much anymore. There’s enough laws on the books now, not much reason for having them around now.

Retired 02, don’t worry about your spelling, I enjoy your posts.

Typical NDP hacks: Notice how the Liberals “gave” business money?

To the not-so politically astute, collecting less taxes is NOT the same as giving them money. It was never the NDP’s to begin with. I realize business profits are bad and are viewed as targets for politicians with an expense account, but at least take the time to get the facts correct.

If anyone doesn’t mention Moe Sihota, I won’t.

“collecting less taxes is NOT the same as giving them money”

If the government borrows money in order to reduce the tax rates for business, it is indeed the same as giving them money. It is a transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to corporations, something the Liberals are extremely adept at. Don’t forget the HST fiasco, which they are still collecting and which was designed to increase that transfer of wealth.

As I pointed out, and what was ignored in the response, the lower tax rates were done at the same time as increases in all sorts of fees in order to recoup some of the money transferred to corporations. So much so, in fact, that corporations now pay a significantly lower proportion of provincial taxes than almost anywhere else in Canada and individuals pay proportionally more plus are ultimately responsible for the excessive amounts borrowed by the Liberals to fund this largesse.