I wonder if they have the heat working in Kin 2 yet. I wonder if they’ve done something about all the wood that blocks the view of the ice from the stands? They seem to have stopped the water from leaking into the stands though.

Any bets on how long it takes to change the ‘fall of 2013’ to the ‘spring of 2014’?

But yes, the new dressing rooms are much, much better than the old ones.

The srreets are impassable but we have nice dressing rooms . Thats just wonderfull
Cheers

We all live in our own realities. It would be nice if the City Government would at least live in the same reality as its citizens.

Where are you driving, Retired? I’ve been driving all over town the past few days and the streets are fine, provided you drive to the conditions.

“We all live in our own realities. It would be nice if the City Government would at least live in the same reality as its citizens.”

A lot of people pay a lot of money to use the arenas. Go check out one of the kin centers on a weekend and count the number of kids that are out there exercising and team building. The arenas are definitely one area where we should be spending our money. Same with the soccer fields.

Posted by: Retired 02 on December 28 2012 10:49 AM
The srreets are impassable but we have nice dressing rooms . Thats just wonderfull
Cheers

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Did you clear the snow off your hood and windshield before you headed out? :)

“A lot of people pay a lot of money to use the arenas”

I pay a lot of money to use the movie theatres whenever I use them. And I give the movie theatres money to pay for thier business taxes plus property taxes.

The money I pay for the tickets is after tax money. I have already paid income tax on it, but it is indirectly taxed once more when I buy a service or a good.

Unlike the user fee to see a movie, the user fee to pay to use a city skating rink or similar city facilities pays only for part of the cost of the business of running a rink. The taxpayers who do not use the facility actually pay more in total for the use of the rink than the taxpayers and fee payers who use the rink.

If you know otherwise, then please show me the figures.

Society as a whole does not benefit from you going to a movie but we all benefit when we raise a generation of healthy, well adjusted children.

Healthy Well adjusted Children ?

Have you ever watched a hockey game?

Posted by: Saywho on December 28 2012 1:52 PM
Healthy Well adjusted Children ?

Have you ever watched a hockey game?

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People who play team sports from a young age learn how to function in a team environment. They can use those life skills for the rest of their lives.

I watch lots of hockey games and all I see is a bunch of kids having fun together.

“Society as a whole does not benefit from you going to a movie”

I am sorry but who are you to say that my form or relaxation is better than yours????

I pay to go skiing on a private hill or a private groomed trail. I happen to have weak ankles, so could never really skate very well, so skating was out for me. I also used to play squash which has always been in a private enterprise setting and my user fees paid paid most or all of the cost of providing that service.

We each all know our own bodies and minds. So please do not push your recreation and relaxation forms on me and do not judge mine from the point of view of whether it is beneficial to society to have content members of society.

Axman wrote: “we all benefit when we raise a generation of healthy, well adjusted children.”

Yes, and we all have our own way of trying to do that.

In my view, Craig Kielburger is one of those outstanding healthy, well adjusted children. He just turned 30. He has already been honoured with the Order of Canada, Canadian Meritorious Service Medal, and Ontario Medal of Good Citizenship. He is the man, who created Free the Children which he began working on when he was 12 years old.

The organization he founded as a result has built over 650 schools and school rooms and implemented projects in 45 developing countries through its approach of “children helping children”.

A quote from the linked article below which talks about bringing up those well adjusted children you and many others speak of, axman :

“Over the past 16 years, we’ve met tens of thousands of socially conscious kids through our work …. And we have a good idea what makes them tick and what they need from the adults in their lives. We’ve also met thousands of their parents, and from them we’ve learned enough inspiring lessons to fill a book ….

“A lot of our interaction with parents comes through our workshops. We begin by asking about their kids, and hear about academic awards, hockey trophies and debating plaques. Then we ask parents what values they hope to nurture. We hear of love, kindness, caring and passion. Then we ask how these values are reflected in how their children spend their time and ask, “Where does your child volunteer?” The silence is so pronounced we can hear a BlackBerry ping

“There seems to be a disconnect between the values parents hope to nurture and the time they devote to doing so. A mom may say she wants to raise a compassionate, caring daughter, but will note that there’s no time because of competitive sports. A dad agrees community service is key, but confesses he can’t even get his son to clean up his bedroom.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/01/12/change-the-world_n_1199539.html

I agree with axman. Both my kids participated in many sports, including hockey. I’m always a huge supporter of my tax dollars going to anything that encourages our kids to participate in sports or any other team activities. There are too many kids sitting at home playing computer games and/or watching tv. As my kids were growing up, I always believed that keeping them busy and active would hopefully keep them out of trouble and it did. Now my grandkids are also very active in team sports, including hockey, skiing, softball and soccer. Our kids are our future and we need to look after them. The Kin Centres are also used for more than just hockey. Lots of other things go on there too, like the PGX and the Home Show.

I also agree with JohnnyBelt. The streets are in pretty good shape. No, they’re not perfect but I’m not willing to pay more taxes so that the few who do not know how to drive the conditions can get around. I drive slower and leave home earlier.