There HAS TO BE an inquest into this incident. A wonderful, well-meaning, good family man totally loses it and does what he did and then is placed into general population at the jail? Did it not occur to anyone at the jail to put him into protective custody/suicide watch or at the very least, have him assessed by the psychiatrist.

Paul was a good man. We need to know why this happened.

I don’t want to hear anything from anyone about how he was charged with heinous offences because they obviously do not know the whole story. This is a complete tragedy, plain and simple.

bornandbred, I posted previously but I don’t believe you saw it. I work for CBC and am hoping to get a better sense of the Paul you are describing in your comments. Can you please contact me at 250-562-6701 or email andrew[dot]kurjata[at]cbc[ca]. Thank you.

To die a few days after you have been arrested is strange ,don’t you think ?

akurjata, I have to consider this carefully. There are many things at stake with a family’s right to privacy being the biggest consideration.

I think if you talked to anyone who worked with Paul, and I believe the Citizen mentioned where he worked, they will be able to give you a better sense of the kind, gentle soul he was.

Time to sign off this particular item as it brings tears to my eyes.

bornandbred, I respect that. I can assure you that I will not record or share any information without your prior knowledge or permission. My invitation stands if you or anyone you know would like to help share Paul’s story.

One less criminal to feed with our tax dollars in my eyes. If you do the crime, do the time, this guy must have just wanted out extra early. Sad he didn’t make it though, “attempted murder” seems like a good reason to rot behind bars. RIP Judge. You got out way too easy.

Someone do something nasty in your cereal this morning littleone? Must be hard to pump blood through a heart that cold.

BCRacer, what I wrote is what I would hope would happen at a correctional centre. Do you work at one? If so, please explain to me how it works when one is brought there.

bornandbred….what if he had killed people with those shots??????? Was he stoned out of his mind when he did this???? I’m tired of people running around loose playing shootem-up! He wont do it again….

wow. I do not know this fellow or his family but some of you really need to learn about mental illness apparently. Playing “what if” does nothing at this point. Taking some of the posters comments on here that have known him then this is a complete tragedy. Perhaps there is/was nothing that could be done but the heartless comments are mind numbing. Especially when we see other guys released after 50 or 60 offenses.

From another local news source come these words: “A family friend said Judge was one of the employees who had lost his job at Lakeland Mills following the April explosion and fire but had since found employment elsewhere.”

If this is true, would this provide additional information to some of the redneck posters on here to give this person a bit more empathy?

That’s right Gus, he worked at Carrier.

As one of those “rednecks” you so lovingly accuse me/us of being, I don’t give a flying monkey butt where he worked, what jobs he had or how much of a ‘family man’ he was. People who love their family don’t try and kill people.

If some one is a convicted criminal who is put in jail, then that’s where they belong and they probably did something (like try to murder someone, yeah that sounds like a good reason, no?) to gain a place at PGRCC. One does not just magically get put in jail last I checked?

Question. Would any of you stand up for someone you know who may end up being convicted of abducting women from the highway of tears because they were “nice to you”, “had a job” and “loved their family”? I sure hope not. Why? Because that would be stupid, irrational and DUH of course they seemed normal, acting otherwise would be suspicious.

As for his “mental illness”, which I have yet to see any real reports of, perhaps the people who claim they knew him should have contacted some help for him. Then perhaps he wouldn’t have been placed in general population and MAYBE he would still be around to serve his well earned time behind bars. Assumptions of course.

One more thing, I’m a strong believer in the Golden Rule. “Do unto others as you would want done to you”. Think about it. I dare you.

Sincerely, an educated and sensible redneck.

“If some one is a convicted criminal who is put in jail”

He was not a convicted criminal!!

From the report above: “Judge had been remanded in custody on several charges …. “

So you seem to have a problem with the English language, likely not understanding the word remand.

The word “remand” is used generally in common law jurisdictions to describe pre-trial detention. Pe-trial detention differs fundamentally from post-adjudicatory detention, or imprisonment.

We do not know what would have happened had this person, who I do not know from Adam, gone to trial. He may have ended up imprisoned or in a secure institute to provide psychiatric treatment or found innocent of some or all of the charges.

I really do not know what happened here, but the government shares some responsibility. Could have been a PTSD case, just as a for instance.

So, what causes you to think about this in the way you do, and me in the way I do, I do not know. But it is obvious we think about it in different ways for different reasons. I believe mine happens to be based more on due diligence and the law of equity, and yours closer to vigilante justice of days gone by which gave rise to lynch mobs.

We live in the 21st century western post industrial society.

Bravo, Gus. That is an excellent post.
It saddens me that our current judicial system has left our society so jaded that we celebrate the death of people being accused of crimes….People we know absolutely nothing about. For those condemning his family and friends for standing by and doing nothing to compel this individual to seek help, how do you know they didn’t? And how do you know that they are not already laying in bed at night beating themselves up over what they could have, should have, would have done. Do you not understand that reading posts like this may be heartbreaking and devastating to them to read? It saddens me how little compassion some posters have shown. And while we would do well to remember the golden rule, we should also remember if we have nothing nice to say, it can be best to say nothing at all.

Curious as to the criteria the editors use when closing these articles to comment.

Killer Joe…

@ weaksauce, more comments mean more hits on the website.

I’m pretty confident that there will be an investigation as there are more facts at play here than have been released. Unlike some, I know that and am not speculating.

Littleone – Paul wasn’t a serial killer and the comparason is quite absurd. The issue here is that a hard working family guy did something horrible and out of character. Its taken a week for the system to announce his death, this will be long. Regaldless of whether you want to believe it.. or care, there were a lot of factors to all this.

Aceater you are a troll and I do not think you know the whole story.

You just think you know enough.

You don’t know what you do not know.

I don’t believe mental illness is taken seriously enough. Many Physicians are very quick to prescribe meds with very little follow up, many of these meds have seriously disturbing side effects and can actually cause a psychotic break! Referrals to psychiatrists have long wait lists and even then its guesswork with this med and that med to see what might help and then yet another med to try to alleviate the side effects from the initial med! We know nothing about this situation. This man may have tried to get help only to be medicated and made worse. He may have slipped through the cracks and to accuse his loved ones of not helping him is heartless and cruel. The judgments and assumptions coming from some are really quite heartbreaking to read and it saddens me that people are so quick to lash out not knowing anything about the situation.

My condolences to those who knew and loved him. It sounds like much more going on here than we can even imagine.

Thank you to those you have posted positively on this article. Paul was a good man who was having mental issues. Apparently he sought help for them and didn’t get it.

I just think that if a person is incarcerated for flipping out and trying to hurt his family, the corrections system should do an assessment to see if he is mentally stable before dropping him into the general population and giving him some way to end his life.

Aceater, if you really knew Paul, you would not be saying those things about him. Have some compassion for your fellow man.

Aceater, have you not considered the many years Paul spent being an amazing parent to his boys and a really good husband to Joyce. What happened to them all is a horrible tragedy and I am sure his sons will be able to understand it one day when it is explained properly to them. Paul was obviously affected by mental issues and the scary part is that this could happen to any of us. Focus on the positive in that he didn’t hurt his children physically and Joyce is safe now too. What is sad is that Paul won’t ever get the chance to make it up to his family. He won’t get the treatment he needed in order to become a functioning citizen again.

Your comments about God lead me to believe that you are religious and I am sick and tired of so-called good religious folk not having any compassion for their fellow man. What the heck does the church teach?

Sorry if I offended anyone who is religious and does believe in compassion for their fellow man. I know a few people that go to church all the time but are miserable sods who don’t treat other people well.

One thing I’d really like to get it is… what it was that brought this all about.

This is just eating me up.

Sometimes good people do bad things, for reasons that are within their control or not.

The police obviously thought the situation warranted, and there was enough evidence to lay those serious charges and keep him in custody.

Will we know the whole story? Probably not.

Church is supposed to make everyone perfect? LMAO!I know a few churchies that will never set foot in my house.

Your beliefs don’t make you a good person. Your behaviour does.

“The police obviously thought the situation warranted, and there was enough evidence to lay those serious charges and keep him in custody”

One remands an individual for several reasons instead of allowing them bail. I do not know what those reasons were, but would assume one of them was to protect others.

Another reason could have been to protect the accused.

The most likely cause of an “injury” would have been an attempted suicide. People prone to that should be put on special watch. Holding cells have been upgraded in most of the detachments in BC to allow better observation for that very reason since there were too many in custody deaths in BC. The jail is relatively new so likely was designed that way in the first place.

“Your beliefs don’t make you a good person. Your behaviour does.”

So true. After all, if one is Catholic one can believe and even try following the commandments …… but hey, a few minutes in a confessional every so often, a few Hail Marys …. and you are good to go to continue with bad behaviour…… ;-)

There`s a fine line between genius and madness.

so if your not a genius I guess it makes you that much closer to losin it.

Wow. I didn’t see the anti-religious view coming. But of course everything has to do with religion and how good or bad it is. Right? Can we maybe get back to the issue?

He’s gone. He did bad things, was put into jail and decided he was done. End of story. If i tried to kill my wife and kids, I wouldn’t be able to live with my self either. For the record, I truly hope these comments are deleted, as I don’t and I’m sure others don’t want to know what his wife’s name is and I’m sure she wouldn’t appreciate people talking about her on the Internet.

To his friends, I’m sorry you lost a friend, but what’s done is done and now it can only get better for him in whatever belief you stick to. No more mental issues, no more shooting at people and no more suffering.

Can we move on now? Thanks.

Remember life is a journey. We are meant to learn from experiencing the journey.

This is one of those experiences from which we can get to learn. As they say these days when an event on tha journey has happened: “what can we take away from this?”

What are the souvenirs? The remembrances which help us become a better person with new knowledge to apply to similar situations we will encounter again.

Cool how littlone gets to have his/her views posted online for everyone to read and now that he/she has succeeded with that we should just move on without regard for anyone else’s,pretty high on yourself

Care to join me two speed? The view is just fabulous up here.

gus, thank you for that last post. Well said.

Little one: can we move on now please?

And yet, hours later, you haven’t!