I wish that these groups would not use Facebook for a communication medium. Not everyone is on Facebook. In order to participate one has to join Facebook.

“But if there is a desire to have economic growth, then everyone must do their part to reduce emissions in order to “create the space” for new ventures”

Gee, there is an open mind. NOT!!!!!

Move the polluting industry out of the low lying areas and downwind of the prevailing wind, for God’s sake!!!!!! Kinsley promised he would when the MDF plant was going to locate in the BCR. That was a decade and a half ago. Still nothing!

The CN yard at first is not large enough for the current long trains, River Road plants are pretty well gone other than Brinks. Time to move all that heavy industrial use out of there rather than rebuilding in those locations or improving infrastructure in those areas. Other cities have done it and are still doing it.

Why not in Prince George? The timing will not get any better than now.

air fairies on a make work program again.

Gus. One long train with 200 rail cars would be less of a pollutor than 2 smaller trains of 100 cars each.

Im not sure what polluting industry you are talkng about. CN Rail is probably one of the least polluting industries in Prince George.

The only industry operating on River Road that would be a pollutor is as you pointed out Brink Forest Products. The next one would be the Citys Community Energy System at Lakeland Mills.

The real pollutors are across the river, ie; pulp mills, oil refinery, Hydrogen Peroxide plant, etc; etc;.

On this side of the river the real pollutors are,

A. BC transit
B. The City of Prince George
D. Vehicle traffic, both truck and passenger.

In actual fact there is little or no industry South of the Nechako to the BC Rail Industrial Park and very little pollution even in the BC Rail park. A large number of industries have closed down over the years.

So maybe what we need is a comprehensive analysis of how much pollution actually exists, and what if anything can be done.

Insofar as new industry locating in Prince George, that is nothing more than a pipe dream. Its not going to happen. If anything in the years ahead we will have less not more industry.

You might want to consider all the cars that are idling at every school in Prince George every morning, and every evening five days a week, when parents pick up and drop off their children. Certainly some pollution is taking place then.

Another big pollutor is people driving around mindlessly to and from various shopping centres, or sitting in line-ups to get a cup of coffee.

I would suggest to you that the air polllution from industry in Prince George has actually decreased by over 50% in the last 20/25 years.

Imagine what a great area for a park would be down in the cn yard along the river. Condos, parks, mom/pop shops, coffee shops. Make it a walk only area and put in a big parking lot so people can park and walk. Would almost make it worth going downtown from time to time.

“Another big pollutor is people driving around mindlessly to and from various shopping centres, or sitting in line-ups to get a cup of coffee.” Leave Tims alone or I will show you an Idle no More protest.

Palopu you say this, ” So maybe what we need is a comprehensive analysis of how much pollution actually exists, and what if anything can be done.” then mention Idling cars. Do you know how much pollution from Idling cars especially with all the emission devices on them these days.

Talk,talk and more talk. The Provincial Government is respnsible for industrial pollutiion across the river and they are freinds of industry so the rwill be no change,

In the City west oof the river the biggest polluters are the City because of poor sytreet maintenance and the deisel trucks driven by the rich people that can afford them. So there will not be much change there in polution.

There are a number of monitors around the City so its not difficult to see where all the polutuion is. Just google BC Air qualoty and bingo you know oit all.

There are some that dont have to much to do so they get on the air qualikty band wagon and like to hear themselves talk.
Cheers

How many roundtables, meetings, reports, focus groups, environmental studies or action plans are required before something TANGIBLE actually occurs?

Please tell me they realize that all of the aforementioned are not REAL outputs when it comes to improving the AQ in PG?

Palopu, how about the Danson Industrial site, south of the BC Rail site? There’s a large chemical company that has a large plume of something coming out of it lots of the time. Then there is the pellet plant that has a massive plume of something. At least it is located south of town and I think the winds don’t bring that pollution into the bowl often. Am I right on this?

gus, Facebook is as bad as you make it. You can actually link to some pretty amazing companies, web pages, organizations, etc. that are uplifting. It should come with a warning though: it is addicting.

bornandbred. Your right there is the Chemtrade Plant at the BCR site. They make sulphuric acid, and sulphur dioxide. (bad stuff). However this plant has been in existence for over 20 years, so I doubt they pollute anymore to-day than they did when they first set up.

The pellet plant has also been there for years, and recently moved closer to town, and probably has more pollutants now than when it originally set up.

At the same time in the BC Rail Industrial park you have lost the following mills, etc;

1. Netherlands Overseas Mills.
2. Rustad Bros.
3. North Central Plywood.
4. (2 Smaller Mills)
5. BC Rail and CN merger, has eliminated a lot of rail pollution.
6. Relocation of the North Scale.
7. Major reduction in traffic in the area because of the above closures.

So overall I would say there is a major reduction in pollution in the City of Prince George.

Perhaps I missed it, but nobody mentioned the Husky refinery?

Palopu: “So overall I would say there is a major reduction in pollution in the City of Prince George.”

So, why does it still stink most days?

The Civic Centre was the site of an “Idle No More” protest in a “No Idle Zone?” What were the chances, eh?

retired 02 said “and the deisel trucks driven by the rich people that can afford them”
Time to step out of the 60’s and see how clean a new diesel runs…

Johnny it stinks most days because the Husky oil refinery IMO.

the Chem plant in the Danson has some horrifying smells some days. We have actually had to close the windows on some summer days if the wind is from the North. One day it got so bad our yard guy had to come in and lie down. The fire department came out because so many people were complaining about the noxious smell…

So we have lost all this industry in the BCR Industrial site. So why is it if we get a few sunny days in summer the air quality goes up through the roof.

Seems we have a lot of politicians on this site that like to talk but do any of you take the time to check the BC Air Quality site.

and I dont care how good the deisel trucks are today they produce PM 2.5 which is ouderless but a great health hazard. Oh and by th way there were few deisel trucks in the parking lots in the city.
Cheers

So we have lost all this industry in the BCR Industrial site. So why is it if we get a few sunny days in summer the air quality goes up through the roof.

Seems we have a lot of politicians on this site that like to talk but do any of you take the time to check the BC Air Quality site.

and I dont care how good the deisel trucks are today they produce PM 2.5 which is ouderless but a great health hazard. Oh and by th way there were few deisel trucks in the parking lots in the city.
Cheers

Should read “few deisel trucks in the parking lots in the 60’s”