In Russia, you crash into meteor

I hate our tax dollars paying for all these pro liberal commercials..

I hate out tax dollars being spent on studies, working groups and over priced core reviews …oh and trips to China….lol

It’s amazing how many drivers that are out there that don’t know their signal lights aren’t working. I don’t think some peoples brakes work either, almost got creamed by a dark Dodge dually coming through a red light off of Weisbrod turning right on to the Hart last night. I got your license number you idiot.

Good morning everyone, great day so far.
Enjoy

I was wondering why we heard all about meteor 2012 DA14 passing 17,500 miles from Earth, this afternoon, but nothing about this one that exploded above Russia?

If that one reached the ground, instead of detonating early, how big would the crater have been…? Any really smart people out there know?

Thanks to the moron that backed into my ladies car yesterday at barcsa.. Hit it so hard you knew you did it but weaselled away without taking responsibility for it.

Karma is just around the corner for you.

Come out and cheer on the Spruce Kings tonight.
They work hard. The hockey is entertaining and affordable.
They deserve a full house tonight! (and you probably see lots of people you know, too)

…wonders why you lead-off with a rant against the liberals if it was such a big deal.

It’s 10:00pm on a thursday night, do you know where your teenagers are? I’ll tell you where, they are out driving in your mini van, tailgating, flashing brights and tossing snowballs at my car kudos to those parents who are raising fine young criminals you must be so proud of them.

Posted by Habsfan:
“Come out and cheer on the Spruce Kings tonight.
They work hard. The hockey is entertaining and affordable.
They deserve a full house tonight! (and you probably see lots of people you know, too)”

I certainly think it’s more entertaining that watching the Cougars stink up the joint. Whats the record now?

Last look was 17-32. Wow. Thats just over .250 hockey.

Time to fire the coach again. He’s doing a crappy job with the plethora of talent that the management provided. (JK).

Did anyone else park in front( on 10th ave) of the Phoenix Medical Bldg on Wed just before noon and get a parking ticket? There were about 20 cars ticketed. The ticket says it was a violation of winter regulations in spite of the fact that there was no snow an the street. City Services said, by phone, that there is no parking allowed on streets in residential areas during the day. Residents had been complaining. I pointed out that there were no residences on 10th across from the Phoenix bldg and no residences on Alward on the east side of the street from 10th south. Did not matter , still no parking allowed despite the fact that there are no signs restricting parking.
Does not make sense to me considering that it is not posted. Am I wrong about this?

Looks like another beautiful weekend is coming our way! Get out and enjoy it!

Amendment on Monday’s Agenda

“Community Care Facility, Therapeutic: A facility for the
supportive residential care of up to 30 persons who receive
care or support primarily related to substance dependence,
mental health issues or both.”

mental health issues…address all future correspondence to mayor and council to 5877 Leslie Road

Like the front page of the paper, mayor and council ask for citizen input into budget discussions and then dismiss the results out of hand.

Can you say “paying lip service”

Gotta love the gas prices jacking around in this city———me thinks something is just a wee bit fishy in our fair community.

Styxxxx.. Do you understand what “free for all” means.. Guessing not..either that or you love the liberals..yikes

Styxxx,

The item that hit Russia was a meteor. The item making an extra close fly by is an asteroid.

I’m going to guess and say that the meteor was a lot smaller than this asteroid and therefore harder to track.

Also, the asteroid is making a regular scheduled fly by, meaning NASA expected it. It orbits the sun similar to earth and passes by earth about twice a year.

Lonesome sparrow I agree with you!
If you ask the residents to give input then be honest and publish the results regardless of whether you think “special interest” groups were involved – don’t sanitize it and plead conspiracy.
What is it with reporters? Go and get the information!
Our City Council – “when I want your opinion I’ll give it to you”

To P Val: You were so anxious to post in the “Free for all” on Friday that you did so at 1:00am. I was simply pointing out that your “all-important” “can’t-wait-until-morning” post was a rant directed at the government, rather than the guy who allegedly struck your “ladies” vehicle.

Hummer: Thanks for the clarification. :-)

Here is an article on CTV explaining near earth objects in space. An interesting read. It just goes to show, humans can’t and haven’t done everything yet. We still make lots of mistakes.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/why-did-the-russian-meteor-catch-astronomers-by-surprise-1.1158064

Anyone catch the story out of Hamilton, On., recently about their city pothole patchers? Seems they had 13 2 man crews going out “patching” each day til someone got suspicious and placed GPSes on their vehicles and in some cases followed them. The result? 18 of the twenty six fired for never even going near a pothole. Instead they were going home, to bars, coffee shops or what have you. Some were found to have just dumped their load of ashphalt wherever, investigation continues into whether some were selling it to private contractors. Kind of makes you wonder. As a suit from that city commented they never imagined they had this kind of trouble but recommends other citys take a closer look. After watching crews spend better part of last week “clear” non existent snow from alleys in 10th and Ewert area I’m saying Hmmph?
Have a good weekend

Councilor Wilbur you don’t get to have it both ways.
You dismissed the results when only 70 people took part in the survey and hoped that more people would participate. Now that 270 people have participated you are negating their involvement as well.

Here is some interesting information about the asteroid passing by, very very close. Also on the meteor in Russia.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/15/a-problem-that-is-bigger-than-global-warming/#more-79700

Here is a funny about the approaching asteroid.

“CNN talking empty head (Feyerick) asks Bill Nye if approaching Meteor was a result of global warming…. but Bill’s response is oddly disquieting.”

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/11/why-we-dont-take-cnn-or-bill-nye-seriously-anymore-asteroid-meteor-global-warming/

Some rants about the Citizen:
– I’m sure glad the Gail Van Oxlade seminar is done with. I have no issue with her or the program content, but I bet the endless stream of full colur ads (many of them full page) took up at least three full issues of the paper over the past couple months. I don’t want to pay subscription fees for that level of daily advertisement. Similarly ,the Lloyd Cook issue has surely had sufficient airtime by now. The whole story is repeated every time there’s a new development. And I won’t even get into the barrels of ink used for the Enbridege saga…

“I hate our tax dollars paying for all these pro liberal commercials.”

Look at the end of the commercials. They are paid for by the Party, not the government/taxpayers.

25 comments in and sum42 still has me laughing – thanks.
Have a great weekend all – I’m heading to the mountains…
Oh and remember – peoples signals haven’t worked for years, teens have thrown snowballs since the beginning of time, hit and runs ditto, and no matter what governement is in power someone somewhere will hate them – lol
Its only life, you can’t take it serious all the time :)

“If that one reached the ground, instead of detonating early, how big would the crater have been…? Any really smart people out there know?”

I watched CNN last night…. that makes me really smart …. :-)

the size of a small kitchen table was the description they used. So I would think about a metre across.

Tarn: “I have no issue with her or the program content, but I bet the endless stream of full colur ads (many of them full page) took up at least three full issues of the paper over the past couple months. I don’t want to pay subscription fees for that level of daily advertisement.”

I agree in principle, but I don’t think the Citizen is in any position to be picky with its advertisers or their wishes. If I wanted to run a full page ad that was blank for a month, I would think the Citizen would be more than happy to take my money.

Oh Gus.. And where does that money come from? Do you know that as long as the party gets enough seats they get paid $ per vote. Which comes from us the tax payers.. I am sure you can cut and paste that info from somewhere :)

I think our local reporters are somewhat lazy. There is so much going on in this community but the papers make it so you have to contact them to get your event, etc. into the newspaper. I am okay with that but think that the reporters should be doing more digging on their own. I am so sick and tired of reading about hockey, hockey, hockey.

The NDP probably got paid per vote also. Have you seen any ads from them? I don’t watch much television so don’t know the answer.

old: “The NDP probably got paid per vote also. Have you seen any ads from them?”

They are advertising. I have sped by Adrian Dix’s image and the NDP logo on my PVR several times. :)

The province is a business adn the NDP are good at running a business……………
Into The Ground!

P Val, the NDP spent more on their ads during their last term then the libs are now, and they’re also running ads right now as well, or do you just complain about what the Liberals do while turning a blind eye to the NDP past and present.

I pay attention to the ones that have a majority now…and it’s a horrendous legacy of debt they are piling up.

Found this about the meteor in Russia and the one doing a flyby today.

“I’m too lazy to do all the arithmetic (well, actually I have the flu and don’t feel like doing much of anything:-) but if it were (say) 20m is radius and roughly spherical, were rocky and hence had a density of roughly 6000 kg/m^3, the volume is roughly 32,000 cubic meters, call it 200,000,000 kg of total mass. Moving at escape speed (default assumption) of 11.2 km/sec, one gets 64 MJ/kg,
or 12,800,000,000,000,000 (12.8 quadrillion Joules). This works out to be roughly 3 Mt of TNT, the size of “normal” strategic nuclear warhead. This is probably an overestimate, but an energy of ballpark 1 Mt is probably not a bad guess. This is very close to the energy release we would have had from the object that is missing the Earth today, if it had hit, so they aren’t too far from being the same size.

From the look of the trails and the explosion at the end, assuming an airburst at 10000 feet or higher, I think 1 Mt TNT will end up being a good ballpark, but it could have been only 10m in size and 1/8 of this in energy release. We must await measurements or better fermi estimates from physicists on the scene taking into account the actual pattern of damage from the explosion at the end.

Damn lucky it wasn’t nickel-iron and heading straight down into a city, though, regardless of its size. It would have killed a million people in a heartbeat if it hit in the wrong place, just like the one that is missing us today.”

“If that one reached the ground, instead of detonating early, how big would the crater have been…? Any really smart people out there know?”

I watched CNN last night…. that makes me really smart …. :-)

the size of a small kitchen table was the description they used. So I would think about a metre across.”

According to the CBC eport, it was the size of a bus, not a smal kitchen table, and at approximately 54,000 Km/hr I would think the crater would be, oh, I don’t know . . . a wee tad bigger than a meter.

Common Gus, where’s your uncommon good sense?

Doesn’t sound like the effects of Valentines carried over into today based on the comments above.. :)

zigzagg99 “P Val, the NDP spent more on their ads during their last term then the libs are now, and they’re also running ads right now as well, or do you just complain about what the Liberals do while turning a blind eye to the NDP past and present”

Actually if you believe CBC News reporting Clark has outspent even her predecessor, you know the drunk driver, who has outspent the NDP and in fact has set a new record for spending tax dollars on their own party rhetoric. One link if you have time to listen and it is one of many such articles from noteworthy sources:
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Shows/British+Columbia/ID/2310828211/

PGuy “The province is a business adn the NDP are good at running a business……………
Into The Ground”

That is where you and our current government are WRONG.

There is a big difference between running a big corporation where the one and only mandated goal is to earn more and more profit at the expense of anything and everyone….and managing citizens’ tax dollars (remember it’s their damned earned money!!!) for their best interests. Manage my tax dollars for public infrastructure, education, health care, environment yadda yadda.

Free party and fireworks tonight!

People have just forgotten how bad the NDP were. They forgot about the “Have you had enough yet?” rallies that packed the CN Centre. Don’t worry, our memories will be refreshed in May.

I remember Johnnybelt, I remember. It is almost enough to make me completely apathetic. Have certainly had to pick the hill I want to die on.

I don’t remember….did they put hospital patients in closets when the NDP were in?

I’m not sure but I never heard of people having heart attacks being turned away at a hospital when the NDP were in? Or young men with broken legs being told to get a room at a local motel because they couldn’t treat then in a hospital….being managed by Liberals…go figure?

Why do unions have to file court actions to save Canadian jobs, while the BC Liberals say no qualified Canadians want those jobs?

Why would a BC Liberal government that buys ferries from a foriegn country now want to fund ship building apprentices here in BC, when they know our ship building companies cannot compete? Go figure.

Jim13135,

That may have to do more with hospital staff rather than government.

I just had a friend go in with a cancerous tumor in her back and cancer in her thyroid and they ambulance’d her from Mcbride to pg in a day and the next day air ambulance’d her to VGH. That sounds like good health care. Where do you get these bizarre stories?

Sounds like fictional stories and over exaggeration….

Imagine a province ruled by BC Liberals that supports the Bollywood film industry with a $12 million gift…while the BC Children’s Hospital has to fund raise so they can treat our sick kids…..imagine that in May when you cast you vote.

Gee Hummer…you must live a sheltered life…all those things were on our news reports.

health care here is BS 100% you pay msp every month you pay taxes, you are bloody lucky if you even have a family doc if you do its 2 week wait to get in plus you pay big bucks for scripts if you need a note 35$ if the doctor writes anything for you more money out of pocket. and if you dont have a doc its off to the only walk-in in this town! sounds about right eh.

Good points Jim13135, fighting the ultra right wing agenda and saving the working man/woman is my hill and you just stoked the fires. Thanks:)

Hooray for socialized health care. Everybody bitches about the ineptitude of the government (regardless of which party) & then turn around & want them looking after your healthcare. WTF??????????? It’s laughable.

“Imagine a province ruled by BC Liberals that supports the Bollywood film industry with a $12 million gift…while the BC Children’s Hospital has to fund raise so they can treat our sick kids…..imagine that in May when you cast you vote.”

And what pray tell is Dix and the NDP going to do about it? Build another 420 milion dollar ferry system that nets back 5% total? For all you folks who think the province is going to be some great place for education, health care, employment, booming economies etc. if the NDP gets in, you seriously need a reality check. They will prop up their union cronies, take decent paying jobs out of the picture and make sure their union bretheren that voted them in get their turn at the trough all at the final cost of Joe Citizen. This province will once again go from a “Have” to a “Have-Not” in less than one half of one term. I wish someone would try and do something in the middle. Isn’t the middle where most of us live, pay taxes, get married, have kids and die? You can make a case for too much business in government with the current state of governments everywhere but the alternative of shutting it all down and sending a message that BC is closed will hurt all people of all political beliefs on both sides.

PGguy1234,

Thank you for posting. Finally somebody with some common sense and a normal outlook on life.

There appear to be a lot of delusional British Columbian’s posting on this site.

Prince George:Come on, it’s a getto! If U got a criminal record and a reputation of not letting anyone push you around. This is a getto brown noes people. Bet most would rat out you’re neighbours for growing weed and support a bitumen pipeline. Most of ya here wold bend down and kiss Harpers buffed shine shoes.

PGguy1234
Unfortunately for you, facts are that the BC Lieberals plunged BC into have-not status 3 times under Gordon Campbell, versus 1 under the previous NDP government. That is what happens when you cut corporate and personal taxes without cutting spending. That is why Gordo sold off BC Rail, and wanted to do the same to BC Hydro. And why they instituted the HST.

If you really think the BC Lieberals are good financial managers, Christy has some more LNG for you to huff!

So PGuy1234 it was okay to sell off the ferries for pennies on the dollar just to make a political point. It was okay to have ferries built off shore at a very heavily government subsidized facility and then turn around and say we support shipbuilding. So it was okay to sell off BCR under very questionable circumstance’s. So its okay to have our electrical costs climb to pay 53 billion to fiberals friends. By the way Christy was going to investigate those contracts but not a peep since. Probably told to back off by those pulling the strings. So its okay to have a carbon tax, money taken from schools hospitals to pay fiberal friends. A tax related to an unproven science by the way.

You one of those fiberal friends?

Anyway one looks at it we are hooped, every time I see Dix on tv I just about puke. PVR is invaluable.

To add after 12 years we should have a change of government anyhow.

here is an interesting read on unelected NGO’s meddling in our country

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/2011/02/introduction.html

Any of you folks read about the woman with albinism who launched a human rights complaint aganst Earl’s Restaurant because it serves a beer called, wait for it, “Albino Rhino”?

That’s right, tax dollars that will forever disappear down the loo because someone took offence to the beer’s name in an eatery. My freakin’ word, is this some kind of crazy or what?

So I was looking forward to today to point out a stupid bylaw but saw that someone already got to it…..but I’m still going to rant haha.

Yes, I too got a ticket the other day –along with a bunch of others on the street. I parked on a street and walked into work to get my few minutes of exercise. Plus I save money for parking that amounts to $800 per year. Smallish compare to the 5 grand I pay for property taxes so I can use the street I would say. But honestly, what the eff was I thinking! Geez.

There were no street parking signs saying I couldn’t park there and I had parked there for the past 2 years. A call to the parking peeps confirmed with a search of the bylaws that there is a daytime winter (oct 15 to apr 15) parking regulations in pretty much all of PG that says you cannot park on the streets between 8 am to 6pm. Then the next bylaw states the nighttime winter parking regulations says you cannot park between 6pm to 8am. Reorganizing that statement means one cannot park on the streets 24/7 in the majority of PG. I understand that roads need to be plowed, but most streets are usually bare of cars. What an asinine rule and I am sick and tired of giving people money to throw away on junkets.

hOnnybadger :

I suggest you leave your daily schedule with the city so they are aware of where your car is and they can plan their plowing or sweeping around your life.

What happened to campaign promise of more open communication to the people…..

People asking about the changes to the OCP which will affect all the neighborhoods of Prince George: Write a letter with your concerns to the city to all these email addresses:

mayorandcouncil@city.pg.bc.ca; dwasnik@city.pg.bc.ca; KSoltis@city.pg.bc.ca; IWells@city.pg.bc.ca; wbabicz@city.pg.bc.ca; sgreen@city.pg.bc.ca; feverittpg@gmail.com; Cameron@cameronstolz.ca; cityclerk@city.pg.bc.ca; mayor@city.pg.bc.ca;
feverittpg@gmail.com; garthfrizzell@citynotice.ca; councillorlhallpg@gmail.com; akoehler@telus.net; murry.krause@cinhs.org;
bskakun@telus.net; Cameron@CameronStolz.ca; councillordavewilbur@shaw.ca

I guess nobody saw that Harper lost a cabinet minister today?

Re: that meteor crashing in Russia? If the Ruskies introduce us to a little kid with a red cape, I for one will not believe them. So there!

NDP took over in 1991 debt – $20B
10 yrs later debt was 33.8B; increase of 13.8B. Liberals take over and run debt up to 53.4B in 2011. Increase of 19.6B or 42% more than the NDP. That is not including the over$80BILLION that they are hiding under their P3 projects where their friends are guaranteed profits for many years to come.

Here is another way that the fiberals pay off their friends. Carbon credits, forcing schools, hospitals to pay for their carbon emissions read taxpayer money, at 25 bucks a ton and friends of liberals buy these credits at less than 5 bucks a ton. What a racket I am sure schools and hospitals would have better use for the money they are forced to hand over. The carbon market has collapsed, but no matter to the fibs. Just how low can a politician go, robbing kids and the sick

How about a new poll on 250?

Just a super thankyou to the people up top of Connaught Hill that put on the awesome fireworks show tonight. Im not sure if I agree with the games,and I see on my tax bill, that I help pay for it, but nontheless, thanks for the show. You would be happy to know how many kids, young and old, were cheering. Hope you were able to hear us.

P Val wrote: “Do you know that as long as the party gets enough seats they get paid $ per vote. Which comes from us the tax payers.. I am sure you can cut and paste that info from somewhere.”

I wish you would learn to get the right information yourself in the first place, then you would not look like such a functional illiterate.

The federal government has done that. $2/vote for all parties. The are reducing it to 0 over the next 4 years.

The ather money which relates to expenses if there are enough votes is the differntial between the money given to those who form government, those who form the offcial opposition and those who are also rans, such as the Greens. The money goes to the constituent offcies and to the addtional assistants they require to operate research functions, etc.

The ads on tv, such as jobs, show that they are funded by government …. the others to show how well Christy is doing, show they are funded by the party.

The you have people like Lali, the NDP guy who has been in Parliament for almost two decades who made the “mistake” of funding an ad through his constituency office ….

Here is the link, just in case you have a hard time finding it.

http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20130204/KAMLOOPS0101/130209944/-1/kamloops/lali-admits-ads-broke-rules

Krusty ….

Here are a few stories on the Meteor.

1. The meteor appeared in the skies at around 09:25 a.m. local time in the Chelyabinsk region, near the southern Ural Mountains. It disintegrated and ‘exploded’ about 30-50 kilometers above Earth’s surface. The fireball blinded drivers and a subsequent explosion blew out windows. Reports of damaged buildings are being checked.

Initial estimates for the Russian Meteor are that it was a 1.5 meter-wide object weighing about 10 tons, traveling at 15 km/s.
http://www.universetoday.com/100003/russian-meteor-not-related-to-asteroid-flyby-nasa-confirms

2. NASA estimates 4,700 ‘potentially hazardous’ asteroids
url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/15/world/europe/russia-meteor-shower/index.html[/url]

3. The object that struck above the Russian city of Chelyabinsk on Friday morning was smaller still, probably just 10 metres across. Yet, it has injured many hundreds, underlining the danger of space rocks hitting populated areas,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/across-the-universe/2013/feb/15/russian-meteorite-strike-highlights-asteroid-danger

4. While NASA estimated the meteor was only about the size of a bus and weighed about 7,000 tonnes, the fireball it produced was dramatic.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite.html

5. The spectacular meteor explosion above Russia‘s Ural Mountains this morning was caused by a likely truck-size rock weighing in at about nine tons
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-a-surprise-but-many-more-out-there

I stated that I quoted the CNN story which was similar to number 1 above. It originated in Russia from local observations and a space agency which has just as much, if not more credibility than NASA.

Everyone can believe what they wish … some of us are Jews, others Christians, others Muslim, and agnostics, etc.

Until we get some better reports, we can all claim to be right.

2. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/15/world/europe/russia-meteor-shower/index.html

The wife just called to say that she is on her way home from work. Suggested that I order some pizza for supper.

Just tried to order a couple of pizzas online. I had planned to pay for them online with my credit card so that she could just quickly pop in and pick them up. Apparenty I can’t do that anymore.

Phoned the pizza joint to see if I could place my order over the phone and pre-pay with my credit card, prior to my wife picking them up. Nope, can’t do that either.

I can however, place an order for delivery and pay with my credit card at the door when the pizza is delivered. But of course there would then be a delivery charge.

Apparently the rules have been changed again, all for consumer protection. Funny thing is, things seemed to work just fine before!

I’m envisioning a room full of government officials and workers, all sitting around with nothing to do, until someone suggests that they think of some more rules to protect us from ourselves. Haven’t we got enough rules and regulations already?????