That Papason unit isn’t a chip truck.

Hope everyone is OK.

On a side note, I wish they would make Central st. trucks in right lane only. Tired of empty chip trucks drag racing down central, holding up traffic. News Flash guys: you are neither fast nor professional.

one of the reasons that they drive in the left lane is because if they travel in the right lane and every 20 ft is a vehicle turnoff they have to continually shift or brake – don’t lump all truck drivers in the same shit pot

Did it hit Papason from the rear? That logging truck looks like its been demolished.
cheers

Cant have the big units in the outside lane. Thats where all the smaller vehicles are. On busy days it takes two traffic signal changes to get through the intersections. Only in Prince George.
Cheers

guys on the right……courteous, professional drivers
guys on the left……..S@*t pots
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Your absolutly right Raven. Besides if the empty chiptrucks were raceing down central how would they be holding up traffic? last time I checked the speed limit was 60Km.
Obviously Guvsux wants to be in front so he/she can be first at the stop light. Maybe Guvsux should start looking at their own driveing habits before pointing fingers at other drivers
I know when I am crossing town I stay in the left lane all the way and very seldom have to stop for a light unless it gets tripped from a pedestrian or another vehicle,that only works of course when doing the proper speed limit.

When I drove by just after 8 it didn’t look like the Papason truck had any damage – at least to the back and driver side. Logging truck got cut off and hit the ditch hard? In that case he must have been flying for that much damage to happen.

commercial trucks has just as much rights as civilian traffic. So quit your griping.

Hope all the drivers are OK>

Govsux its obvious your not very friendly towards big rig drivers so I won’t tell you why they do what they do cause its obvious you won’t listen anyway

ever heard of passing??? both vehicles cant be in the same lane at the same time….

Perspective alert —

.. Driving is not a right but rather it is a privilege
.. Professional drivers with appropriate licensing have additional responsibilities over that of a class 5 (who still have responsibilities)
.. While traffic flow is a valid consideration, it does not supersede safety

.. since when is a 2 traffic light delay a problem, most drivers encounter multiple light delays in urban environments during peak periods, Prince George still has some of the lighest traffic in the province

Whether it’s been on a motorcycle, or a bicycle, I’ve never had anything but respect from semi-trucks. I think what a lot of us forget, is while we’re on a pleasure drive, they are working. Me, I try to make it as easy for them as I can. I don’t pass in front of them and then come to a stop at the light, shortening their stopping distance. I move over to let them merge. Those guys are the ones who bring our food into town, and our resources to the mills and markets. This guy looks like he ditched to avoid hurting someone. I’ve almost been creamed by cars a half dozen times – not once has a semi even crowded me. I sure hope this guys o.k.

Commercial trucks are supposed to stay in the right (slow) lane unless 1 they are making a left turn or 2 are passing a slower or disabled vehicle or obstruction . And before all you “truckers ” jump on me I am a 20 year veteran truck driver and trainer . I spent many days and years running along the bypass both ways several times a day and always stayed right . It is frustrating at times but the rules of the road .

“.. since when is a 2 traffic light delay a problem, most drivers encounter multiple light delays in urban environments during peak periods, Prince George still has some of the lighest traffic in the province”

If more of the 4 wheeled drivers would consider this there wouldn’t be as many problems.

ski50, that’s a great attitude. I also try to remember that these guys driving the big trucks are working. I know none of the rest of us like when someone comes into our workplace and makes life difficult for us.

I too hope the driver is okay. I think I met him one day at the Co-op; friendly but maybe a bit “cowboy-ish”. Just my opinion.

since when is a 2 traffic light delay a problem
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Why is this a problem? Its because there is no triffic on the inside lane. Its because the people in Prince George are still in the 60’s when it comes to driving knowledge.

I hnave said this many times that there is NO fast or slow lane when there are two lanes of traffic. If you cant drive the speed likit get off the road and let those drive thar can.

The Out side lane is the OFF/ON lane the inside lane is for through traffic. And if this does not work for you get some training like deffensive driving lessons.
Cheers

It was extremely icy in that area this morning, the story I heard was he couldnt stop, momentum of 63,000 kg carries you pretty far on wet ice, he tried to go right, caught the corner of the other trailer on his fender then cab and came to rest in the ditch.

A bad situation, but something that a little sand could have prevented.

Was the driver going to fast for road conditions? Was the driver not paying attention and realized he had to make a sudden stop? Possibly, but anything is speculation at this point.

Retired 02, could nay have said it better meself. And, I think that stretch of road is Hwy 97 north, previously known as the Bypass, Central street is the frontage road on both sides of the highway.
Never had a problem with big rigs on that stretch, they’re good drivers, I have seen them cut off a few times, people tend to walk in to them, but no worries, keep truck’in.

As for road conditions today, 9 passenger vehicles in the ditch between Vanderhoof and Redrock. After Redrock the roads where wet from a good coat of salt.

I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often. I drive the Hart quite frequently and it’s quite scary the way some of these logging truck drivers operate; weaving in and out of traffic, driving at high speed two abreast, turning left across two lanes when it’s not clear, etc. etc. etc.

axman,

its quite scary how passenger vehicles operate around these trucks. Cutting in front of them taking away their braking cushion, weaving in and out, driving to close to be seen by the truck driver, sudden braking, the list goes on and on.

Well Govsux you are probably one of those auto drivers that race around until they get up to the next vehicle and sit on their but until they move over for you. I see it a hundred times a day. You are obviously one of the very important folks around town.

That is why we travel in the inside lane across town. Mainly because of traffic passing us and moving over into the right lane in front of us. With all the traffic coming onto and off of the bypass in the right hand lane it makes it frustrating as well as unsafe at times. Especially when it is slippery at these intersections. If folks drove courteously it would be no problem in the right lane as people would not be cutting in front of you trying to get an extra car length ahead. There would be a smooth flow of traffic and life would be marvelous. But that is not the case. We have to put up with folks shooting onto the bypass not looking or worse thinking that they are one of the important folks in town who own the road and not giving a dam about who they cut off. Then their are the folks that cut in front of you and jam on the brakes to get stopped so they don’t run into the guy they are now following when the light changes. Yes their are a lot of reasons why trucks travel across town in the left lane. Mostly less morons to deal with.

Now as for the driver trainer. I have not ever seen where it is written that trucks must travel in the right lane. This is a new one on me and I have been doing this for over 37 years. Most trucks travel in that lane as a courtesy to the other traffic. We realize that we are long and heavy and at times slower than some of the other traffic most of the time the right lane is the place to be. During heavier traffic loads though on the bypass because of the type of traffic and drivers the left lane seems to be the safer and most expedient lane for trucks going direct across town. Now if you want to make the right lane across town the lane for trucks then fine keep the cars out of it as well. Just for trucks and only trucks.

Now we have driver trainers where I work as well. Most of them need to be trained themselves. Not that they don’t have good intentions but it is kind of like the blind leading the blind in some cases.

I am not saying you are one of these HarleyGuy72 but I have seen driver trainers that have only a year behind the wheel.

Any how the lane which has a smooth flow of traffic is the lane I will take until I get out of the congestion. If that angers some of the four wheelers, No Problem! They can just cut someone else off the get to the next light.I try to be courteous when I can but the fuel tax covers both lanes..

“since when is a 2 traffic light delay a problem”

Bang on … I waited 4 light changes on Boundary road in Burnaby for 3 rigs with containers needing to make wide turns ……

Albus Antiquus Vir on February 19 2013 5:04 PM
axman,

its quite scary how passenger vehicles operate around these trucks. Cutting in front of them taking away their braking cushion, weaving in and out, driving to close to be seen by the truck driver, sudden braking, the list goes on and on.

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That’s most true; in fact I wager that there are far more idiots behind the wheel of a passenger vehicle then they are behind the wheel of a rig. However, there seems to be a disproportionate number of bad drivers behind the wheel of logging trucks when compared with the number of big rig drivers out there.

The right lane rule is not a written rule, but rather a guideline. It applies to the loaded trucks heading to the pulp mills, so that drivers aren’t aggressive in town to short cut the wait in the line up at the pulp mill.

All trucking companies that haul into the pulp mills self enforce this rule so everyone can get along and not have conflict at the dumper line up. It generally applies from the city limits in, but in the case of out west the last chance to pass for place in the dumper lineup is the Mud River hill.

Once a truck is empty the right lane rule doesn’t apply and sometimes its get back to the mill before it plugs up… right or left lane which ever is quickest. Most will still stay in the right lane out of courteous habits. Some trucks going straight through and not turning at 16 west will take the left lane.

No right lane rule though, only amicable agreement between the trucking companies for loaded trucks.

Grew up in and around the trucking industry. Have great respect for the patience, skill and courtesy of professional drivers. However, as I stated, there’s no need for two chip trucks to run through town side by side from light to light. It is inefficient for everyone, and I dont see any benefit, to anyone.

I dont zip in and out of traffic, and I don”t pull into the right lane to make the trucks brake early. Nice assumptions though.

In regards to chip trucks running side by side or any other large truck – These drivers as previously mentioned are on a time clock. Where do the logging trucks and the chip trucks go – to the mills. Who owns the mills? The drivers are paid mainly by the trip – not hourly to deliver their loads in order to make a decent living. This is no excuse for not abiding by the laws of the road. So why not report the truck number to the company and then make a complaint to the owners of the trucks. Mills have cut the pay for their products for their shareholders and bottom line. I would trust the majority of the “Professional” driver than these ying yangs in pick ups etc.

As for staying in the right lane – it is not law here in Canada – it is a suggestion only or as mentioned a company policy. In Europe it is a law to stay in the right lane – in fact the driver can attain a huge fine if they don’t.

guesswhat: if you drive truck in the lower mainland, you will get a ticket for driving in in the left lane unless you are going to make a left turn. Don’t know if that’s municipal or provincial.
Eagleone: sounds like you hauled chips too.