Simi Heer, says it’s unclear why no data is available for northern communities. She says it may have been unreliable or flawed.”

LOL!! So much for the new units being “smart” meters. I thought they were supposed to give more accurate data?

When someone else pays my bill I’ll turn them off

I guess ten million 1.5 watt led lights sounds more impressive than 1.5 million 100 watt bulbs? or perhaps sixty thousand baseboard heaters? How about “we saved enough to charge 8000 Nissan Leafs”
Nah ten million is a much better number…

Mine is installed and working fine.

They do not know why they could not get data. Surely they would know whether meters were installed and functioning.

There was a post on here tht says the software is not installed yet ….. seems my house is working and has been for several months.

Let us just agree that we are second class citizens in just about everything that has to do with government in this province and country ….. !!!

Sort of like Haldi Rd., Cluculz Lake, Hollandia ….. Far too many groups with chitty representation around here.

I just checked my page … Smart meter data was available from January 1, 2013 onward on my street.

Maybe they had a spike because many turned their electical appliances on …. and they can’t figure that out, so think there is something wrong with the data … LOL

I do not understand why they do not use the same one hour bins on the hour as the data on the personal account pages. They use full hiur bins on the half hour. If someone was really going to try to track it on their page, it would not show up as extremely if the hour is divided between two one hour bins.

Again, someone has really not thought this through very well.

So where the lights left off? Hey why not open the main breaker to join the 1.5 billion that have no power at all.

stupid is and stupid does.

Good in a way. Someone has no knowledge of how many “useful idiots”there are who turn off their lights and live in these parts.

The Smart meters are smart. The human beings who are supposed to know how to get at the data perhaps not that much.

Bang on, PG. Stories like this are great for the anti-smart crowd… er, I mean, the anti-smart meter crowd.

So the question is. Where did all the saved power go???

Either it went into the ground or they slowed down the turbines. Either way they lost the power. Lost power is lost revenue, so I suppose Hydro will increase our rates to make up for the loss. Hmmmmmm.

Palopu, electrical power is not lost. The power is available by demand. In the BC Hydro system power not generated is water not used.

Seamutt. Like we have a shortage of water at Williston Lake.

Power not generated is power lost.

7% of the power generated at the WAC Bennet dam is lost in transmission.

By reducing the amount of power used in BC Hydro took at big hit in revenue.

LOL Palopu I would explain it to you but you most likely would refuse to understand.

Except that he is right. Power not sold is power revenue lost. The water ‘saved’ will not be extra water that will be used to generate more electricity later. More likely it will be released. Power generation at williston is not limited by water levels except in exceptionally dry years.

Now if one is running a portable gas operated electrical generator at high load you will use more gas than at a low load, right. Or does the generator always burn the same amount of gas regardless of power output?
Huh were did I say there was a shortage of water at Williston.

Want to know about wasting water. The fibs forced hydro into 58 billion dollar contracts buying very expensive power from IPPs. Hydro is forced into buying this expensive power over their much cheaper power. Hydro has been forced into a position of spilling water rather than using it for much cheaper generation. It is more complicated than that but is a major factor.

That is the major reason your cost of electricity is going up, to pay of those IPPs.

Clark said she was going to look into those contracts but I think her puppet masters told her to back off. Big money to be made.

Water power is not like fossil fuel. As long as we continue to get normal precipitation we have continual access to a maximum amount of power.

Rather than spilling the excess water in the reservoir into the river, we should be trying to sell it.

In fact, we should be trying to convert to hydro from fossil fuel.

However, I understand that we have limited capacity for further growth, thus site C and getting into saving habits until site C is built and on line.

This is a weaning process …. not sure if it is working. I think subsidizing efficient lights and appliances is far more effective.

We have to remember that the larger the percentage of people who have installed energy saving appliances, the lower the amount of energy we save during these one hour propaganda exercises.

Earth hour is worse for the enviroment than not .. its such a BS scam that is ruining our enviroment for future generations…. I find it funny …Everyone that turns out their lights etc .. lights a Candle .. probally parafin wax, a hydro-carbon product …

So, that said … a standard paraffin wax candle is made of refined crude oil, it burns at low temperatures, which makes it highly inefficient and releases lots of carbon. To test this, …just hold a pot over your candle and watch the carbon build up almost instantly. In fact, a single candle releases 10.69g of CO2 per hour, but only provides about 13 lumens of light.

A 40 Watt light bulb on the other hand produces about 500 lumens of light. If the power to light the bulb comes from a coal fired power plant (ewww gross) it will release approximately 1.11g of CO2 per hour.

Put another way, a candle provides 38 times less light than a 40 watt bulb, but the candle also produces almost 10 times more GHG emissions to create that small amount of light.

So let us suppose that (according to earth hour.org) 1.8 billion people turn out there lights for an hour. And let us suppose they light an average of 3 candles each. That means 57,726 tons of carbon were released into the atmosphere as a result of Earth Hour. Or …. we all could have kept 1 light on, produced more light, and only released 1,998 tons of carbon.

What, the Northern Capital and no record of our effort
Cheers

Hydro sells all the excess power it can through Powerex.

Hydro has very little fossil fuel generation used mainly for back up and var control at times.

Site C is needed for future growth and needed to backup the IPP’s which are mainly run of the river plants which depend on real time water flow which is variable. The sad thing is when IPP’s have lots of water so does Hydro, whose power is much cheaper, but hydro is forced to buy the much more expensive IPP power. This forces hydro to back off their generation forcing them in some cases to spill water because of full reservoirs thus wasting potential energy.

So when the IPP’s who don’t store water are forced to back off generation due to low water flow, Hydro makes up the difference. When those very inefficient very expensive to run and maintain wind farms have wind issues hydro makes up the difference. So by Hydro’s own words site C is needed for backup to the IPP’s.

Contracts to the IPP’s will coat us 58 billion and site C will cost lets say another 10 billion. Now if only site C was built we could have saved 48 billion and had cheaper power.

The only solution is modern nuclear. England which has gone all touchy feely by shutting down coal generation and finding out the hard way their investment in wind is a very costly mistake, buys all the power they can from France whose generation is 80% nuclear.

China and India are building coal and nuclear generation as fast as they can. Power costs in Asia are much cheaper because of their generation source that is why industry in the western world is moving over there greatly affecting our economy while the western world diddles with expensive fads.

Great post bowzone_mikey. I would love to see some sort of official response from BC Hydro on that. Don’t worry, I won’t hold my breath. ;-)

Does that mean “no one can hold a candle to BC Hydro”? I love the English language.

Bowzone why worry about plant growing C02? you have been had.

BC Hyro’s power needs are a scam. Fact of the matter is they sell most of our power to the USA, and make big bucks. Then the Government sucks the money out of Hydro and blows it on their favourite programs.

Hopefully the people in the Peace River Country will stop site C in its tracks.

Yeah, maybe we can change BC’s slogan from “The Best Place on Earth” to “Nothing happens here, no way, no how!”