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Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:59 AM
Prince George, B.C. – Although the latest polls show the NDP’s Adrian Dix has a 14 point lead over Liberal Christy Clark, that doesn’t mean this election is all over.
 
Tonight, the leaders of the party’s will be taking part in a televised debate on Global BC (6:30 p.m.) a venue which analysts claim gives Clark the edge.
 
While the polls put Dix ahead among decided voters, the latest 250News Opinion Poll, ( which is not scientific) shows there are many who have not yet made up their minds.
 
According to our poll, 81.5% (4015) say they have not made up their mind about how they will vote on May 14th. While 18.5% (911) say they have.

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On the other hand, the latest scientific poll shows that the NDP’s support is growing. The Justason survey, which has just been released, gives the NDP 49%, the Liberals 27%, the rest about equally shared by Greens and Conservatives. That’s a 22 point lead for Dix, and it is highly improbable that Clark could overcome it. Not only because it is just too wide a gap, but because the changes in support are favouring the NDP.

Yes, I know, the only poll which counts is the one on voting day.

Hey just pick a poll that you like and go with it…..

Diefenbaker once said that “polls (poles) were for dogs and the only poll that counted was on voting day.

One thing for sure is that if the NDP do win, then they should be kissing John Cummins butt for helping them win the close ridings that they might otherwise have lost by
1-5%.

Cummins is an “angry old man” who has skillfully used the BC Conservative party to satisfy his insane hatred of Gordon Campbell and anything else that is provincial Liberal.

He cares nothing about collateral damage to the Province, nor was he the least embarrassed that as a “conservative”, he actually voted for the NDP in the last provincial election…and bragged about it.

So if the NDP win this election, what becomes of Cummins….well he will just take his combined teacher pension/MP pension and live happily ever after with his memories of having fulfilled his goal of “getting Gordon Campbell and the Liberals”, and to hell with whatever happens to the province after that.

You could take the 11% support the Conservatives have and add it to the 27% the Liberals have, totalling 38%, and you would still not be anywhere near the support the NDP has at 49%. That 11% margin is enough, on its own, to give an NDP majority government. Still, Liberal supporters need someone to blame because we all know nothing is ever their fault. The simple fact is that citizens of BC just want a new government, not the tired old one.

If the Liberals can’t unite the ‘center-right’ voters it’s because they have no policies that appeal to them.

There’s only so much mileage that can be got out of saying, “We’re not the NDP, so vote for us”, and they’ve pretty well used up all of it.

What we’ve had over most of the last 12 years is a staged retreat which has given us, in increments, exactly what the NDP would’ve given us had they continued in government in 2001.

Where is the notion that, “Tax cuts work” in the Liberal platform today? They DO work, too, but only when they are meaningfully applied to the income and spending of the everyday British Columbia consumer. And NOT given most beneficially to the already bloated incomes of those who’ve already obtained all the personal consumption they need, and are just greedily putting their surpluses out in the global economy wherever they think they can get the best financial returns.

So what DOES Christy and Co. have to offer? Austerity, and tax increases. Not specific, but implicit. But only until the ‘pie in the sky’ dream of LNG exports “paying off all the Provincial Debt” comes through, she infers. Even Dix can come up with something better than that.

Time out for those of the center-right persuasion to clean house, and get some kind of an organisation together that actually has something of substance to offer that’ll move ALL British Columbians forward instead of continuing the staged retreat we’ve been getting under the BC Liberals.

Socredible – you make a lot of sense. There needs to be a house cleaning, but what do we do about this election. Do I hold my nose and vote NDP because my choices are dumb, dumber and dumbest.

Ammonra makes a good point even if I think he was just being sarcastic, but truth is, the Liberals have had twelve years to pay off all their friends, and get their buddies cushy jobs. If we install an NDP government, we’ll have to pay a fortune in severance as they fire all the Liberals, and then a fortune in sweetheart deals as they pay off all their friends.

Are we in a devil you know is better than a devil you are about to meet scenario?

Maybe we need 4 years – actually 4.4 years of NDP (Dix has said he’s moving the election date to Sept)to slap the center up the side of the head. Kind of a colonic cleansing. And who knows, maybe Dix will break the trend of so many NDP premiers before him, and actually run the government with the best interest of all British Columbians in mind, not just those that carry union cards, but those who own businesses and companies as well, because end of day, business and labour are in a symbiotic relationship – like it or not.

A few reasons not to vote lieberal.
HST
Used vehicle transfer tax raised from 7% to 12%
Campbell’s 500 million deficit that turned out to be 2.5 billion.
In 2 years Christy has run up the provincial debt 11 billion dollars.
BC rail cover up and 6 million dollars paid so the liberal echelon would not have to testify.
Running red lights is okay at 5 in the morning.
BC Hydro give aways to independent power producers.
Multiple increases in msp costs.
Christy spouting off bond rating agencies have approved the provincial budget.
Bollywood.
15 million in tax payer dollars to buy TV time to tell us what a great job the lieberals are doing.

Their track record speaks for itself.

A few reasons not to vote NDP:
– Dix is Glen Clark’s protege.
– Faked memos, took severance
– Not paying for your Skytrain ticket is ok?
– Fast ferries
– Bingogate
– Fudge-it budgets
– Went to have-not status under their watch the last time they were in power.
– Tax increases coming if they get elected.

Their track record speaks for itself.

Biggest reason not to vote NDP – Socialism is unacceptable.

‘Socialism’ is simply ‘monopoly State capitalism with control by Finance’. It’s where an omnipotent bureaucracy decides what should be made, and how much you’ll be allowed to have of it.

It certainly isn’t any better or worse than what we have right now under the BC Liberals. Where an elite clique forces you to increasingly produce more “for export” products that you also increasingly can’t afford to buy for yourself.

I don’t think there’s a whole lot of traditional ‘socialism’ left in the NDP. Nor do I think that if Dix is elected Premier he’ll be particularly successful in creating any kind of lasting prosperity following the platform he’s laid out.

The one thing he has got going for him is that if he does follow that platform the money stays here.

Contrast that with the bankruptcy of original thought coming from the BC Liberals. Who are going to give us a repeat of the same kind of ‘austerity’ that Bill Bennett tried back in the 1980’s ~ only just until LNG exports make us all billionaires, that is.

I think I’d sooner have four years of Dix, even if he’s as big a screw up as Barrett and Harcourt were. Which I doubt he will be. That gives the center-right time to sort out the true “free-enterprisers” from the “global capitalists” and come up with a platform that’s meaningful for restoring a genuine, lasting prosperity to ALL the citizens of BC, instead of more inflation-deflation cycles like we’ve had with the Liberals.

Socred:”‘Socialism’ is simply ‘monopoly State capitalism with control by Finance’. It’s where an omnipotent bureaucracy decides what should be made, and how much you’ll be allowed to have of it.”

Scary! That’s why the federal NDP removed the word socialism from its constitution.

I am wondering how many new benefits would be coming my way…when Dix starts to milk the udders of the banking corporations and the taxpayers to finance his bureaucracy and demands of his followers.

I hate to admit it, but JB gets my vote.

Ya got to love the new Christy Clark story. Runs a red light, and lays the blame on a eight year old boy rather than accepting responsibility. She is far classier than that Dix fellow that claims he misplaced his Sky Train pass.

We need politicians that are better liars than these two.

Socialism is about taking care of people, communism is about monopoly of the state, and global capitalism is about monopoly of the global corporations and banksters.

What we need is a free enterprise government that is about equal opportunity to compete and achieve success based on merit. We do not have that option this election so we have to vote for who will do the least amount of damage. I think in that regard what socred says above makes the most sense at this point.

My only hope is that we can get a dozen independents and a minority ndp government… then we can get back to having a legislature that represents constituencies rather than parties.

I am looking for honesty, integrity and a set of values my grandchildren will want to model. Where your word is your bond. Where you say what you will do and do what you will say. Where honor and respect of the individual is more important than party policy. Where my rights are not over-ridden by special interest groups. Where common sense dictates decision making. Regulators are killing us. Reduce the interference of government in our lives, reduce the cost and size of government in areas they do not belong, reduce red tape, reduce taxes and release us from bureaucratic non-sense we have to deal with day by day.

All the above mentioned isms don’t amount to a hill of beans if those elected and in charge are bereft of common sense and thinking based on reality. logic and reason. Stir in a large helping of compassion and humility and it would make a huge difference.

(dream on…).

Any ‘socialism’ that “looks after people” still uses the rules and conventions of double-entry cost accounting to set prices, Eagle.

Which is really all ‘capitalism’ does ~ it’s fundamentally just a method of determining prices relative to costs.

Communism outlaws the rules and conventions of accounting, because those rules rely on profit to determine the correctness or incorrectness of any line of human endeavor, and to the Commies ‘profit’ is the great evil that causes all our problems.

But after they’ve outlawed it, they then have no practical way for the ‘Consumer’ to transmit his demands to the ‘Producer’ who could satiate them. So those at the top have to guess what is going to really be wanted by those underneath them.

History shows they seldom get it right. They end up producing too much of the wrong things, that nobody wants, instead of the right things which everyone wants. But they say that’s okay, because everyone has a ‘job’. And to them, that’s the important thing. That EVERYONE is ‘working’. Ever notice how much our ‘socialist’ NDP and ‘global capitalist’ BC Liberals sound just like that?

It would be interesting to know just where the BC Liberals stand in regards to ‘private property rights’. Which are really the cornerstone of all our rights and freedoms. My guess is Christy and Co. pay no more than lip-service to them. While continuing to erode the ones we have left with still further advances in the kind of ‘bureaucratic lawlessness’ that’s now so commonplace.

Where the kind of ‘common sense’ administration BYOB is talking about above has been supplanted by ‘regulators’ of every kind and description being able to make up their own interpretations of some very vague legislation with impunity. Largely with the notion that those being ‘regulated’ should be penalised financially to the greatest extent possible to help preserve the job of the ‘regulator’, and aid a supposedly cash strapped regime.

Christy and her minions are about as shallow as you can get.

Dix and the NDP, are basically a bunch of Government employee’s, Health Workers, Teachers, etc; who want to run the Government rather than work for it. Problem is they don’t know how to run it.

Sooooooo,. Whats left. Green or Conservative, or more of the same.

Its going to be a s….y turnout no matter who wins. This Province from a political standpoint sucks.

I thought the 250 Poll stated that 85% had made up their minds. Then when I checked it a few days later, it said that 85% more or less had not made up their minds.

I thought at the time someone had spent a lot of time voting to change the numbers.

Maybe I just misread the poll.

Liberals will win the election.

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