To bad the project manager was an idiot and didn’t do the roof purlins correct. Cost the tax payees an extra 80 grand

“Cost the tax payees an extra 80 grand”

Why? What kind of contract is in place that a mistake of the contractor’s or of the architect or engineer should be paid by the City?

Are you sure that the City is paying for that “mistake”?

From the link below, the actual construction costs are pegged at $59.2 million.

The costs of land, engineering, design, equipment and furniture make up the bulk of the remaining costs.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/154786-rcmp-s-ns-digs-nearly-ready

I think the construction contract for the local RCMP station was $22.7million. As with the Halifax project, the rest are the so-called soft costs as outlined in the linked article.

How much did it cost for the multi coloured tiles out back? I call it the Tetris building!

Interesting that their public works department is going to pick up 47% of the cost of this building.

How much will the Feds, Province, pick up for the Pr George Building??? Absolutely nothing, although we may get some second hand furniture for free.

Is the $2.75 Million for the land included in our costs.

How about a comparison for functional space. If we looked at functional space, then the Nova Scotia building wins hands down.

Here comes many ticket help pay for it :-)

I don’t think the City will be paying for any mistakes by the General Contractor, those mistakes will be coming out of their pockets, unless it was a design error.

If it is a design error, which it frequently is in the case of something going wrong (usually not enough clear drawings, especially these days, which really should be caught by good shop drawings which the contractor has to provide) then it should be covered by the architect.

Problem with that is that the City may not have a qualified enough person to audit the construction process to realize it is an architectural error.

The Halifax project is a federal government project. All division buildings across the country are, similar to the recent rebuilding of division E headquarters in the GVRD. I do not know how the cost sharing works with the Feds and the province(s).

There are a few things to be considered in comparing the two projects.

1. construction costs in the east are somewhat less expensive than the west.

2. the order of magnitude of the project typically reduces the per unit cost of the larger building. This one is 4 times the size of PG

3. 5 floors versus 2 reduces the per unit price.

4. a comparison of cost per m3 (building volume) would provide a better analysis of usable space of one versus the other.

5. the Halifax building has more than 30% more space per person which typically means more large spaces which are less expensive per unit price.

6. building complexity is kind of obvious when one looks a the two buildings. PG is paying a premium for that.

If the PG building had been designed in such a way that it would have cost the same per unit as Halifax, it would have cost up to $10million less. To be realistic about it, it should easily have cost $5million less.

Would KPMG have been able to find such cost savings? Of course not. In order to do that one would need qualified people on City Hall staff and Council would have had to listen to their advice.

Looking at this comparison and knowing what I know about Gus’ point number 2 above(from building a house recently) I would say the PG shop is a bargain :)

At this point in time it doesn’t really matter.

The only option left for people in PG is to hold to account those people on council who forged ahead with the new RCMP station, despite the drawbacks. Will they?

You mean we cannot return it to the Sears service counter?

The new Credit Suisse office tower proposal in Vancouver is for a 31 story highrise that will incorporate the old stock exchange building (built in 1929) will renovate it, and it then will become a heritage building.

Cost $200 Million. 400,000 sq ft (37,161 sq metres)

Cost per sq metre $5381.00.

Seems Vancouver has the capability to renovate a 1929 building while Prince George could not renovate one built in 1986. 27 years old versus 84 years old.

We can make all the excuses we want for the cost of the Prince George Police Station, however at the end of the day, it is a direct result of the City being hosed, and not having the best people on the payroll to ensure this type of gouging does not take place.

I doubt that you will find any similar building anywhere in Canada that cost what we paid here in Prince George.

PS: The Credit Suisse tower is to be built to the Platinum Leed Standard.

“You mean we cannot return it to the Sears service counter?”

Probably not, but Costco may take it back, LOL ;)