How many of the 59.5% drive the type of vehicle with the permanent turn signal on and drive looking through the spokes of the steering wheel?

Going north from the john hart bridge should be changed to 80km/h

60km/h is a little unrealistic and that’s were the cops try to nail you going the flow if traffic!

5th ave north should be 80km/h.
And of course “slower traffic keep right” signs should be every 100 feet.

Protesters are always more persistent in getting their votes in and being heard. I know way more people that would want higher speed limits.

Don’t need to change the limit, people ignore them now.

” Posted by: tractor on October 21 2013 6:44 AM
5th ave north should be 80km/h.
And of course “slower traffic keep right” signs should be every 100 feet.”

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You could put them every 5 feet and the idiots would still ignore them. And we seem to be blessed with an inordinate number of idiots in this town.

Everyone should read “Speed Kills Your Pocketbook” (it is online but I don’t know how to post it). The reason most vote no is that if the speed is 100 people will do 110 therefore it stands to reason that when the speed is 110 people will do 120, etc. The article proves that this does not happen.

Oh I forgot, for us old folks, we are still not up to the old mph on the highways. Funny how much faster we think we are driving because it is kph.

Your first **hint** should be the number of people killed on Highway 16 and 97.

Highway 16 needs some serious upgrading and some good long passing lanes before the speed limit should be upped.

People already drive faster than the posted speed. So if you increase the limit they will continue to driver faster.

Its interesting to note that the Pulp Mill

Its interesting to note that the Pulp Mill road (fairly straight road) is posted at 60, while the road into Clucuz Lake (Quite a windy road) is posted at 80

People drive way too fast and recklessly now. Daily I have someone on my butt tailgating me. So sorry for doing the speed limit.Lat time I checked this is P.G, not the Indy 500. I drive to the conditions and weather.I signal, something most drivers seem incapable of and I also know the difference between a yield and merge sign.

5th Ave North should be 80km/h?! You do realize this is a residential area with multiple schools and crossings in the area, right?

There is not one school north of 5 th ave until after Austin rd.

“5th ave north should be 80km/h.
And of course “slower traffic keep right” signs should be every 100 feet.”
I read on here once, years ago, that those people are saving your life! It’s an ongoing joke in our vehicle.
“that dude is saving our lives” by doing 10 under the speed limit on the highway, causing others to get frustrated and pass in sketchy areas.
Slower traffic signs won’t help. They believe they are saving us as much as religious folk knocking on doors believe they are saving us.

how much time do people think they’re saving if limits were raised from 100kmh to 110kmh? take into account those drivers that will continue to drive at exactly the limit or just below, and I’d wager that you’d save no time at all. this whole push to raise speed limits is coming from one tiny little special interest group in the lower mainland. because it’s apparently a provocative issue, there’s been lots of media attention and now the province is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to study this. in my opinion, i think the only place limits need to be raised is in passing lanes. raise those limits to 120kms, then nobody can be ticketed while accelerating to pass a slower vehicle, or a line of rv’s. for transparency, i got dinged a few years ago outside of williams lake for this :).

Mikmak I totally agree with you but what I noticed is that the people that were slow prior to the passing lane step on the gas and go as fast as they can during the passing lane and then back down to being slow again that is my pet peeve of idiot drivers so there for you have to go as fast it will take to overcome the so called slow driver just to get ahead. As for increasing speed limit for city they should stay the same noonr should be driving fast in the city regardless and if they do then the first snowfall we have will get them

Although our survey is not “scientific”, the results are interesting.

Indeed the results are interesting … compare the survey results versus the general tone of the comments posted …. makes a case for the silent majority versus the squeaky wheel … perhaps all that squeaking is the heavy application of the brakes resulting from the view of a patrol car ahead … ;-)

i like the speed limit the way it is on highway 16 , but please ( someone ) why do they build passing lanes on curves???? The newest one east of vanderhoof is a huge ” S ” curve. As soon as you get past the passing lane there is many straight stretches to build a passing lane. What’s up with that??

Posted by: apester on October 21 2013 8:33 AM
There is not one school north of 5 th ave until after Austin rd.
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you may want to look at a map of the city and rethink that statement but thats ok ..I think I know what tractor was saying … Foothills and the Hwy north of 5th should be up to 80 KPH.

Foothills I can agree to after 1st ave … the hwy would be fine IMHO

realistically people do that or better now anyway … I drive 70ish along foothills from 5th on and I get passed like I am standing still , North of North Nechako the average spped seems to be 90 going up the hill

People on the Hart drive like maniacs and pay little attention to the speed limits.

It seems they have this mentality that forces them to want to be the first to get to a red light.

Just so everyone is aware, you are able to cast as many votes as you wish it’s not a single vote per account.

That being said I voted “YES” to all.

I do plan on attending the meetings and I have a couple of things I plan on bringing up in regards to driving in this province. I am sure I will receive no love for my suggestions but I don’t care.

The level of terrible driving is getting worse by the year and really needs to be something done about it.

I also plan on picking up a dash cam to capture these people for some good old fashioned public shaming via Youtube and possibly a website if there is enough demand for it.

250 News is always on the speed kills and slow down news story, so its not a big surprise to see a poll from here turn down higher speed limits. Almost but not quiet a conflict of interest news poll.

In PG the speed limit up the Hart should be at least 80 on both the highway from 5th and Foothills from 1st.

The problem as I see it with the Hart Highway is the road is not engineered to highway standards with the lack of shoulder for broken down vehicles, no street lighten, and lack of a bike lane… this should be a huge priority for the city with the province.

In what world do people think that the speed limit on Hwy 97 North (as an example) should be the same as the speed limit on the Coquihalla? LOL!

“How many of the 59.5% drive the type of vehicle with the permanent turn signal on and drive looking through the spokes of the steering wheel”

How many of the 34.4% drive jacked up diesels with mudders that cant handle worth a chit and who account for 75% of the vehicles you see in the ditch after a snowfall?

Driving around this area I am be coming convinced that most speed limits are set with an eye to making money off of infractions.
If the cops were really interested in safety, they should set up at city crosswalks and ticket the drivers (men and women!) who are totally oblivious to the pedestrians trying to get across.
As for this poll … I don’t believe it is reflective of the population at all, but more so of the news media’s mantra of “speed kills’.
So sorry that 250 has bought into that nonsense in the way they skew their reporting of accidents.

Start ticketing the slow drivers as well as the speeders and then there maybe no reason to raise the speed limit. On the highway I find we quite often need to speed to make up for the time lost from following a slow driver for many km. life is very busy and I should not have to leave early for my trip due to slow drivers.

Start ticketing the slow drivers as well as the speeders and then there maybe no reason to raise the speed limit. On the highway I find we quite often need to speed to make up for the time lost from following a slow driver for many km. life is very busy and I should not have to leave early for my trip due to slow drivers.

I would tend to agree that “speed kills” is misleading.

Out here, it is incredibly rare to hear of fatalities on the 400 series highways (think freeways) and these are roads where the police won’t even start thinking of a ticket until you are over 120. Now of course, these roads are also several lanes and are divided.

Virtually all of the traffic fatalities out here are on the secondary highways and these would be similar to what you have around PG. Two lane roads for the most part, undivided, with passing lanes in various locations. Anytime you have roads where people can cross the centreline or where any type of collision is “head on” in nature, you will have far greater fatalities.

Incidentally, the speed limit on most of these secondary roads out here is 80 KM/H. I don’t think speed kills, but speed combined with roads that are not optimized for the operation of vehicles at high speed certainly introduces risk factors. Get a true divided highway and the increased risk from higher speeds is likely negligible.

Walter198 … I should not have to leave early for my trip due to slow drivers.
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obviously you are not leaving “on time” if you do not allow for drivers driving less than the MAXIMUM … it is interesting to note that some highways in BC do have a minimum … usually set at 60 or 70 KPH … I seriously doubt you encounter many drivers lower than that limit in your highway travels … and I suggest you try a few mathematical calculations to truly figure out the “time lost”

Carpenter the speed limit for the Hart Hwy was recommended to be 80 in a study done in the past. Then the police said if it was 80 people would go 90 so the police suggested it be 70 so the people would go 80 which was the recommended safe speed. This was accepted and the limit was posted at 70 and everyone did 80 and it was good. Now though some people do 70 and some 110 but most still do about 80.

I think maybe its time for graduated licences in relation to speed or maybe horsepower. How about speed or acceleration limiters for inexperienced drivers? My first car was a VW bug and that taught me a lot about how to pass and drive safely.

I don’t think raising the speed limits is a good idea because a lot of people can’t handle the speeds that are set now!

The Hart 500 is mostly used in the morning commute after these drivers have ^fueled^ up at Timmies. This added octane seems to accentuate the fact that the right foot be pressed on that gas peddle and get to town as fast as hell.If some of these people would get up a little earlier, drink a nice home-brew coffee, by-pass Timmies and enjoy a leisurely drive into town while admiring these beautiful fall colours, they may be more relaxed and enjoy a productive day on the job. Keep the speeds the way they are. This isn’t Hwy. 1 into Vancouver. Enjoy life and take it easy, guys.

LOL…watch out strech55, apparently it’s all about Walter198 and his oh so busy life.

I drive to the posted speed limit if it says slow to 60 I do so, and I drive at 100km in a 100 zone, but yes there are times when I need to drive slower then the posted limit because of a slow driver. And yes I do led a busy life. And no I have not calculated how much time loss my trip into the kootneys takes re slower drivers. And why should slow drivers not be ticketed, just like speeders?

Oh and I do get drive to the conditions slow down in a snow storm, but on a bright blue sunny day, dry pavement, come on people drive the Posted speed limits or pull over to let the long line up of travels pass you.

I drive to the posted speed limit if it says slow to 60 I do so, and I drive at 100km in a 100 zone, but yes there are times when I need to drive slower then the posted limit because of a slow driver. And yes I do led a busy life. And no I have not calculated how much time loss my trip into the kootneys takes re slower drivers. And why should slow drivers not be ticketed, just like speeders?

I drive to the posted speed limit if it says slow to 60 I do so, and I drive at 100km in a 100 zone, but yes there are times when I need to drive slower then the posted limit because of a slow driver. And yes I do led a busy life. And no I have not calculated how much time loss my trip into the kootneys takes re slower drivers. And why should slow drivers not be ticketed, just like speeders?