The World of Tomorrow, Will Not Be A Pretty Place
Monday, November 4, 2013 @ 3:43 AM
While many of the people reading this comment will not be around to experience the fall out, many of the ills of the modern world , according to the Nobel Prize winning Intergovernmental Panel on climate change, are likely to worsen as the world warms from manmade climate change. The report leaked on climate change says starvation, poverty, heat waves, droughts , war and disease are likely to get worse as the world warms up.
The report goes on to use the word "exacerbate" repeatedly to describe the warming effects on poverty, lack of water, increased disease and even the causes of war.
That report comes as no surprise to people who have watched over the past half century as the world has seen its population grow by leaps and bounds. We are unable to control the growth of the number of people on the planet with the result humans are set to virtually eat the center out of this planet and the time is getting much shorter as the population increases.
We have been able to control disease, we have been able to help those in poverty at least to some extent, with the result that the population has been spiraling out of control.
Canada may be able to escape the wraths of weather change and disease to some extent but make no mistake the fact that we have all of those things that a future population will need to survive, only adds to the reason of why the new world will operate in a different fashion.
Instead of trying to take hold of the problems on the horizon we seem content to produce more for that increasing population, content to be able to live a life style above others as a result of that advantage. Regretfully it is only a matter of time before the two paths cross and when it does the world will change into not a pretty place.
I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.
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Oh I call balderdash to the blame us line of argument for global warming and global catastrophes as a result. Heating my house in the winter and driving to work isn’t the source of the ills of the world, we got much bigger problems than that.
I have been to the equator where its 45-50 degrees every single day. They have high humidity and had an abundant ocean, and it cools off over the night hours when work gets done… its not the warming that will bring an end to civilization.
We have two threats to humanity far greater than global warming ever will be.
#1 Fukushima… An Australian sailor recently reported a 3000km dead spot in the ocean leaving Japan for North America… not a single fish, whale, turtle, or even a sea bird for 3000km of ocean. A place that only last year was teeming with life. Not a single sardine was caught by Canadian fishermen this year… a basic staple of the Pacific food chain. Star fish are undergoing an unprecedented die off. North Pacific Salmon stocks were devastated this year. 100% of the tuna caught off the coast of California had Fukushima radiation. Alaska reported a few days ago a massive spike in radiation off their coast. The CBC has reported on some of this stuff, but they bury it on their web site. The unprecedented super pod of dolphins in the Georgia Straight is likely related to Fukushima as well. The Pacific Ocean will be a massive dead zone in a few years time. The US Secretary of Energy, the agency responsible for nuclear power in the US visited Fukushima for the first time only days ago and came away completely shocked demanding more American input into how things are handled there. TEPCO will start attempting to remove fuel rods from spent fuel pool #4 in a weeks time… one wrong move (like the 5.0 earthquake they had yesterday) and it will set off a chain reaction releasing 15,000 times as much radiation into the air as Hiroshima… Japan will be uninhabitable.
#2 The banksters and their self regulated ponzi scheming monopolization of industry and politics is the source or ground zero to all sorts of calamities for mankind. Damn near every calamity they talk about in the Climate Change report can be more directly attributed to banksters if one is willing to drill down far enough on the issues.
We don’t need to be worrying about too many people on this world, but rather the impending mass extinction of people from this world. Fukushima has the potential to be a mass extinction event. If we had a solar storm like in the 1870’s today it would wipe out everything connected to the power grid… a gamma ray burst… US government estimates claim 90% of the American population would die within a year… we know that countries that have present capabilities to ignite a nuclear gamma burst weapon that could knock out the power grid across a continent include countries like North Korea (which has threatened to use it), and China (which made the same threats only days ago).
So whether its bankster globalists, Fukushima, gamma ray bursts that disable our civilization… I think the threat of global warming is the least of our concerns and likely civilization won’t be looking back thinking gee that global warming was what did us all in. So I don’t think we need to have much of a conscience about heating our homes or driving our trucks to work while we still can… it is what it is.
How dare the world’s best scientists assume they know more than 250New’s finest? ;-)
Tomorrow? The world isn’t a pretty place now. It never really has been by those measurements; starvation, disease and war have been present since man has been around. Nothing has changed. The only people on this planet who don’t seem fully cognizant of this fact are those who’ve always had plenty.
And this didn’t happen before?
Life is Cruel , Food Supply and Disease used to regulate Population , now what have we done ,we changed that and the Result is ? rapid Increase in our Numbers .
Good call Icicle. Easy to sit around and debunk experts based on one’s PhD in browsing conspiracy theory websites. Hey, if it’s on the Internet it must be true, right!?
Oh, and I hear Chloe Kardashian is pregnant with triplets…exclusive ultrasound photos and DNA testing suggest the babies have three-heads and Bigfoot is the father!
As long as I get my cheque once a month I’m OK.
If man is the cause of global warming, why then are the other planets heating up as well? Does earth’s pollution travel that far? I don’t think so.
I think the bigger issue is the lopsided baby boom. In the near future we’ll have as many over 65 as under, and no pension plan can prepare for that. Get ready to come out of retirement and work, because the under 65’s aren’t going to want to pay 75% taxes to cover off the overs.
And to make it worse, there is a population growth, but it’s everywhere but here. So we’re digging resources out of the ground to beat the band to ship them to the ever burgeoning world population that isn’t curtailing it’s growth, and we’re getting iphones and other assorted non essentials in return.
Once we’ve shipped all the oil, and all the gas, what’s next? Perhaps we should leave some of it right where it is, for the future generation, and maybe the rest of the world, when they can’t get their hands on this energy, might decide to control themselves.
Humans are much like any other plague. Ie; Grasshoppers, locusts, etc; We are basically spreading around the world eating everything we come in contact with.
The solution of course is a big die off, and we will probably get one sometime in the future. In the meantime being the pigs that we are in the developed Countries, we eat 10 times more than we need each day, produce and waste products on a huge level. We are of course our own worst enemies.
After a huge decrease in the number of humans on this earth, the earth will get back to looking after itself. Chernobyle is a good example, of a place that though contaminated, is doing fine without having any humans around. Clear cuts are the same.
Sine Nomine wrote: “The only people on this planet who don’t seem fully cognizant of this fact are those who’ve always had plenty.”
Actually, there is another group. Those who are poorly off by what we consider the standard should be for everyone, but they really do not know that. If all they see round them is people who are not that much better off or that much worse off, they really have not relative comparison to make.
It is the increase in communication through TV, people passing through from other parts of the country and the word, newspapers. magazines (if they can read), etc. etc. which shows them that they might be more poorly off. Even then, some may not realize how common it is that a vast number of people have cars, do not have to cook, do not have to hunt, and can have a dwelling with picture windows and 750sf per person on average.
Who is blessed the most, I really do not know. If I did not know how the rest of the world lived, and I was not hungry, or suffering from incurable disease with lots of pain, and had people I could talk with and share stories with, and could go swimming in the river, and might have to swat a few bugs, and create some entertainment by the communal fire pit when the day is over …. then I would be as happy as I am now, and perhaps even more so.
Happiness is not a finite state, it is a relative state of being.
“Clear cuts are the same”
Some animals would agree if they could speak, others would not. The same with some plants ;-)
If we want any kind of decent future for our children, we must move away from fossil fuels and towards green clean energy sources.
We must also slow our natural resource extraction down to a pace that is sustainable, not only for our economy, but also to the health of our planet.
If we can do these two things, our children, and their children, have a chance!
Posted by: People#1 on November 4 2013 3:11 PM
If we want any kind of decent future for our children, we must move away from fossil fuels and towards green clean energy sources.
We must also slow our natural resource extraction down to a pace that is sustainable, not only for our economy, but also to the health of our planet.
If we can do these two things, our children, and their children, have a chance!
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I must write this date in the calender; I actually agree with this guy.
Of course this raises the question of, ‘what exactly is a clean green energy resource?’ Hydro is probably the cleanest and greenest in my opinion.
Hydro is clean and green if you overlook the land that they flood, the rivers that they ruin with run of the river projects, and of course the ugly hydro lines crisscross the Country.
Ever think about how much pollution is produced to produce these power lines???
Now if we had natural gas producing plants, we could have electricity closer to the area where it is being used, no power lines, no flooding good farm land and forests, (some pollution) and a huge savings in tax dollars.
Natural gas is not sustainable so I’m not sure it qualifies as “green”. As well, how do you move the electricity without power lines?
I’m not saying Hydro electricity is perfect; but I thinks it’s the lesser of many evils.
people#1 wrote: “natural resource extraction down to a pace that is sustainable”
Some natural resources are finite and thus not infinitely sustainable. They are sustainable for a finite time, adjusted from time to time based on usage as well as known availability and extractability
Hydro-electric is a start, but green clean energy includes; solar energy, wind energy, geo-thermal. Before anyone gets into how prohibitively expensive it will be they should read the following NY Times excerpt:
“The study ran several different computer models and concluded that depending on the rate at which the planetâs temperature increases, the cost to Canada could reach 21 billion to 43 billion dollars a year by 2050.
âOur estimates demonstrate the potential scale of the economic challenge facing Canada from climate change,â the study said. âThey highlight the importance of investing in strategies to adapt to the damages we are likely to incur over the next few decades.â
http://www.green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/30/global-warming-could-cost-canada-billions-study-warns/?_r=0
Pay a little now, or pay a lot more in the future! The choice needs to be made very, very soon it’s still not too late!
Eagleone you forgot alien invasion ;)
What’s a billion dollars going to BUY in the year 2050, People#1? Just look at how prices have risen over the last decade. Over the last two or three decades.
In 1957 a million dollars was enough to bring down a government, when a Cabinet Minister, C D Howe, asked dismissively, “What’s a million?” in regards to a cost over-run on a major project.
Canadians didn’t share his same cavalier attitude to what a million bucks was then. And he and his Party were soon out of office.
Today, they don’t even get interested in buying a 6/49 ticket unless the jackpot is well up in the eight figure range. And it takes a Lotto prize in the nine figure range to begin to get anyone excited.
And in 2050? Will the looney have gone the way of the penny? And will it be the ten that’s the new dollar coin, or the hundred?
On another note, if all thirty-six million or so Canadians all went out and committed mass-suicide tomorrow, as their collectively inspired unselfish act to save dear old Mother Earth from melting, do you think the planet would start cooling off again?
The Earth has been warming and cooling all on its own, long before man appeared on the scene. Before the last Ice Age, some 10,000 years ago, the Arctic had a similar climate to that of northern California today. So science tells us. Redwood pollen has been found in sediments under the Arctic Ocean, and dated back before the Ice Age. So it must’ve been a lot warmer up there then than it is now.
Speaking of the Ice Age, has man’s destructiveness matched the devastation wrought by those glaciers as they moved south? Gouging and scouring out everything in their path. How did all the salmon survive, as a species, when their spawning grounds were under two hundred feet of ice? Clear cuts the enviros worry about? Imagine the kind of clear cut that Ice Age must’ve brought.
You worry about fossil fuels, and you do have a point. But how can you reduce the dependence on them to fuel an economy based on a money system that mis-represents so much ‘waste’ as ‘wealth’? One that’s become so disconnected from the ‘physical’ world of realities, that it’s no longer a numerical ‘reflection’ of those realities, but has artificially supplanted them?
socredible; you are asking the wrong question when you ask what’s a billion dollars going to BUY in the year 2050, People#1? Just look at how prices have risen over the last decade. Over the last two decades.”
Umm… who gives a cr*p about how much money is worth in the year 2050, when we will probably be living on a planet that is nearly uninhabitable? Who knows, maybe water will be so scarce, water rights to one water well will be worth a billion dollars?
Might want to do some research on the projected future impacts of global warming socredible, the science is there and it’s telling us it will be dire. Money should be the last thing on your mind, you won’t be able to drink it or eat it anyway!
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