Graymont Giscome Plans Move Towards Environmental Assessment
Prince George, B.C.- The proposed Graymont Lime project for Giscome is inching forward. Teams have been working on studies and the company hopes to see the Environment Assessment public hearing process start in the spring of 2014.
Reps from Graymont appeared before the Regional District of Fraser Fort George Board of Directors yesterday to give them an update on the project.
There are two aspects to the project, a quarry , and a plant located on the east side of Eaglet Lake, on an old CN spur .
This is not the first time Graymont has come before the Regional District, in fact, the project first came to light in 2007. (see previous story)
At that time, the plan was to use coal to fire up the kilns. The new plan is significantly different, with vertical kilns proposed which the company says “Can run on multiple fuels, natural gas, coal, petcoke, biomass & oil”
While the initial plan is for one or two two kilns on the plant site, the company is hoping to permit for three kilns, although that increased operation will depend on market demand.
The property for the plant is in the Agriculture Land Reserve and an application will have to be made to have that property removed from the ALR. That application is expected to be filed by the end of next week and will include an offer to have another 20 hectares of property with higher grade soil, put into the ALR .
The environmental assessment documents are expected to be filed sometime in February. Graymont is hoping there will be an Environmental Assessment decision by the end of 2014.
If that timeline works out as planned, Graymont says it could start construction in 2015, with the project being operational in late 2016 or early 2017
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1. Eaglet Lake was killed off by the lumber industry years ago, and is just now starting to make a comeback. It presently has some *burbot fish** which are natural to the area, and if not a protected species, then close to it.
2. We have a school in the area.
3. Where will the replacement land for the acreage taken out of the ALR come from.??
4. Very few people in the area with the money or expertise to understand the ramifications of this proposal.
This is good for our area, we needed something to help with community to bring in money and resources.
Graymont so far as been real good to the area with support. Maybe this will spur a few more of the projects that are almost completed for the local area.
It’s easy comment when you do not live in the area and call shots but for some of the folks this will be a big game changer for our local economy.
Giscome Graymont kilns to run possibly on “bio-mass”? Bio-mass producers should be rubbing their hands in anticipation. Lakeland Mills, UNBC and now maybe Graymont wanting the same product? Should be interesting. Bio-mass soon to be traded on the TSX?
Good they can clean up all the logging Sites that are in full production out that way again this winter, might even be able to walk through the cut blocks afterwards :-)
Another thing to be opposed by the usual crowd?
Seems like a reasonable development. But why do they need to build it next to the lake. Build it away from the lake, and it will likely be a better chance of it going ahead. CN will have no problems with the spur line to service them.
I guess there will be a lot more 3 o’clock kabooms…. Again.
Maybe Giscome will come back….. My hometown….. sounds like a Bruce Springsteen song coming.
He spoke. If Giscome comes back, then they all can become Limstone Cowbows.
Palopu in response to your statement;
“Very few people in the area with the money or expertise to understand the ramifications of this proposal.”
Are you suggesting that having money makes a person more knowledgeable? Are you serious or was that statement written ‘tongue in cheek’ so to speak?
To the awkward opponents: (Palopu)
The proponents have or are:
– updated their plan
– provided the Reg Dist with an update
– preparing to file environmental assessment documentation
-preparing for public hearings as part of environmental review process
-going through the ALR process
What is missing? Lots of due process and public checks and balances …
johnnybelt, there’s a difference between being blindly opposed and asking questions of industrial developments that could significantly impact the local environment. what’s wrong with having as much info as possible prior to making a decision? that should be our job as responsible citizens. the ‘usual crowd’ you describe might take issue with people on this website that ask no questions, repeat the promises made by the government and developers and simply say, ‘build it’. it goes both ways, no use disparaging one viewpoint over the other. consensus is possible.
mikmak – the problem is, the “usual crowd” knee jerks an opposition and THEN looks for reasons to justify their opposition.
If people learned facts and then made an informed decision (for or against)as you described we would all be better off.
“Hmm… 30 jobs or not being able to fish in Eaglette in the future with tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions being pumped into our atmosphere.
Always that trade-off; jobs verse our environment. Whatever, lets make Prince George and area look like a moonscape for jobs. This project is more than feasible now that Harper made those changes to the Navigable Waters Act, that is what has changed since their original 2007 proposal.
Funny how we need water for every type of natural resource extraction or industry; pulp-mills, LNG fracking, gold mining/production, lime mining/production beyond quick-lime (very caustic) which is why the proposed factory is to be located next to Eaglette Lake?
I am neither for, or against, this proposed limestone mining/lime production plant, just pointing out the trade-offs!” *Opinion 250 news, July 25, 2013.
That is not the best lake ever, had a look at it in the summer, be it it’s been getting better.
Upside if they build this plant maybe Hydro will finally fix that old power grid so it’s not down every week.
Graymont might be also disappointed in Hydro also.
How come no one goes on about the two pulp mills dumping there waste in the Fraser by PG, the ice never freezes over at those two spots for the last mega years. Or how about the smell of rotten air in PG all the time web I drive in every day. Just you wait there will be a oil pipeline a coming soon, Christy Clark is all about the money too.
You right it’s all about people making money to get the toys or lifestyles that jack next door has i concur but I think it’s about time the East line has a little bit of the share. sure has been a lot taken out over the many years.
mikmak: “it goes both ways, no use disparaging one viewpoint over the other. consensus is possible. “
I wish that were the case. Unfortunately, the usual crowd likes to dig in their heels, close their eyes, and plug their ears.
interceptor: “mikmak – the problem is, the “usual crowd” knee jerks an opposition and THEN looks for reasons to justify their opposition.
If people learned facts and then made an informed decision (for or against)as you described we would all be better off.”
Bingo!
Then there is the usual “we don’t care what the ramifications are, jobs and profits is all that matters” crowd.
First off it’s Eaglet, not Eaglette. Secondly, any farming in that area is strictly hay farms, so a few more acres less hay won’t change anything. Thirdly, the proposed site is in the old crush quarry where the only thing they grow is rocks. Fourthly, the limestone site looks like it is just an extension of the one that was there previously. Fifthly, Gawd, JB and interceptor think they are holier than thou and the only ones who know anything. Sometimes people opposed to something really do know what they are talking about. Sixthly, Palapu, there are more ling in the waters around this country than you can imagine. Endangered species? Not even close. Squawfish are probably more endangered in that lake.
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