There ought to be a law against opening up time capsules before they are 100 years old.

I was in one in Ottawa associated with the designing of the original Sparks Street Mall. The opened it when they renovated it some 20 years later. Absolutely stupid in my thinking.

“enhancing” a time capsule? It is what it is. Respect the folks who put it together in the first place.

I have a bit of a surprise thought.

I think there will be very few people from the Prince George 1914 citizens who will be coming home in 2014. ;-)

There should be a code of conduct for Mayor and her Staff. Council is already tied up, its time they started to push back and start acting on the interests of the public. Its funny the Staff in Mayors office brought in the code drafted by them and for hat reason to shut them up…. BS.

Sorry, that should be 2015 in my post above. It was still dark out so I could not read my post very well …. ;-)

Two ideas from the 100 year old time capsule that was opened in Oklahoma this year.

1. Do not open time capsules before they are 100 years old

2. Use the creation of a 100 year time capsule as a fundraiser for tangible goods that will be used by people during those 100 years. – Thus, create a 2015 tome capsule to raise funds, not to spend funds.

http://laughingsquid.com/after-being-sealed-for-100-years-time-capsule-in-oklahoma-city-reveals-pristine-artifacts

“the STAFF in Mayors office brought in the code DRAFTED BY THEM “

And this surprises you, why?

Writing is not in the job description of either Mayor or Councillors. They read, they ponder, they ruminate, they determine, they approve, they reject, they change, and so on.

However, they do not create. That is left to the people who get the big money.

That’s funny. Unless I’m mistaken, the time capsule was already opened when they moved Mr. PG from the corner of 16/97 to the Playhouse area.

Again, unless I’m mistaken, the contents of the capsule were and maybe still are on display at the Prince George Tourism building’s gift shop on 1st Ave – in the Via Rail building.

You’ve got it right, makeitstop. I’m not sure if the items are still on display, but the capsule was opened long before the intended date for some purpose that was never revealed.

I agree with gus, they should have respected the people who put it together and never opened it in the first place.

You got to remember, there is no smarter people than at the moment. Thus all the past planning means nothing to the people of the moment. Thus time capsules will be opened.

A 100 years old, I wonder if any building is still standing from that time????

I say put mayor and council in a box and let’s not open it for 100 years :)

P Val…hilarious. Good one! I’d support that.

mayor green rumination determination = termination

Kinda like opening yer Xmas presents on December 23rd. IMO.

I am amazed, though I probably shouldn’t be, at the amount of money that is available for useless UNNECESSARY stuff, (though it is probably nice to have) and the stuff that we need seems to get over looked….
City always seems to have money for everything but the needs…..

This is heavy Doc..

WHAT….Hold on, I am SURE the City management has claimed their “Broke” so where in heavons would they come up with the $ for such a ridiculous idea….Hummmm, we have money for fireworks but can’t pay the workers!?

Knowledge: “Hummmm, we have money for fireworks but can’t pay the workers!?”

The workers are doing just fine thanks to the last sweetheart deal. They cost the City (taxpayers) $42 Million per year and growing… and what do we get for that? That is the ridiculous part in my mind.

We have had this centennial thing coming up on us for what, maybe 100 years. Why is this a new surprise?
Why was this not panned for even a mere 10 years ago?
A dollar a day for the last 10 years would hurt a lot less than an emergency funding request from depleted coffers.

I just checked my sofa. Sorry but I have no more money to give the city.

Loki wrote: “We have had this centennial thing coming up on us for what, maybe 100 years. Why is this a new surprise?”

Kelowna was founded in 1905. Thus, in 2005 they celebrated their centennial. They published what I considered to be an extremely well done booklet for their centennial. I brought that booklet to the PG Heritage Commission in 2005/06 and tried to get them to look at that as a Centennial project for the Commission of the day.

But I was just shoved off as being far too early.

I knew what it would take to move from where this community was with respect to heritage to where Kelowna was with heritage data by 2005/06 and that it would take a long time for us to get to anywhere near that level of preparedness.

I lost my case. So here we are, with just over one year to go.

As with everything, PG is a last minute town – come to the realization our infrastructure needs fixing …. fix potholes months after they first develop …. remove snow a week after it has fallen …. negotiate a contract with its unionized workers a year after the contract has expired …. have people sit on Council and look after our City finances while their property taxes are 3 years in arrears …..

It is just us, Loki. It is the way this community operates.

“The workers are doing just fine thanks to the last sweetheart deal. They cost the City (taxpayers) $42 Million per year and growing… and what do we get for that?”

Well thats kinda a easy one, you get your roads plowed (of course NEVER fast enough for the likes of you) you have pools maintained and open, ice rinks, Firefighters, Bylaw Officers, water and Sewer personnel, Garbage picked up, parks maintained, sidewalks cleared, Animal Control, Business License, and on and on….Your right JohnnyBelt, you get NOTHING for those wages! If ya dont like it, why are ya living here? Your free to move anytime, I dont think the City of PG will miss one more whiny ungrateful citizen!

1. Snow plowed – whenever they get a round tuit and, more important, left in unsafe conditions in many places with center of street piles that one cannot see oncoming traffic, gets squeezed out of the lane one was driving in, smooth pavement with sudden lumpy ice sections, ruts in ice covered residential streets that can tear the undersides from cars, etc. etc. Where are the standards … SOP for those who do the work?

2. ice rinks – how about the one at the Civic Centre? most often not open. warm weather not an excuse, it is refrigerated. Walkways there today are VERY icy without granular material on them and half finished so that if you want to use the public washrooms, one can’t. Probably note even open.

3. Bylaw officers who do squat about fireworks going off after 10pm .. 11pm … 12am …. any day, never mind whether it is a traditional holiday for that sort of thing …. ATVs and snowmobiles being operated in City Parks …..

4. Garbage picked up ….. I had to give them a call because the garbage bag did not dislodge when turned upside down into the truck ….. no quality control.

5. sidewalks might be cleared, but are not constructed properly in may ways.

6. Parks may be maintained, but City streets with pavers have weeds growing for years, weeds growing in cracks in sidewalks, at junction of paved sidewalk and curbs, between sections of curb/gutters, street not watered and swept during the summer at say intervals of every 2 to 3 weeks.

7. Animal control …. want to talks about feral cats …. no one controls cats, so do not even pretend …. dogs off leash in many parks where they are supposed to be on-leash …. cottonwood, etc.

Maybe I’ll just stop there for now …. maybe if you care to comment, I will be able to add some more such as City staff driving around past the same potholes and never getting them repaired for many weeks ….. yet asking staff from other public organizations to report such things.

Please, forget about blaming management. Many of those who look after the quality control are actually included staff.

Strange that under WorkSafeBC regs one anyone doing work covered under their regs has not only the right, but also the duty to refuse unsafe work ….. yet as long as they themselves work safely, they can actually cause some work to be done which will be unsafe to those using the product of their work.

Message? Watch out for yourself and fellow workers. Forget about the users of the work product.

Our society has a ways to go.

Perhaps we need a proper code of conduct for both Council and City workers because neither of them cover any duty to the safety of the public.

There is a part of the Criminal Code of Canada that covers more extreme cases and deals with due diligence.

In my opinion, we need that to be brought down a level to City employees, whether excluded or included.

“Water & sewer personnel” reminds me of the Walkerton, Ontario situation.

http://suntimeswalkerton.wordpress.com

The way this City is heading with its operations it would not surprise me if we might have an incident which would give everyone a wake-up call. I would not want that to happen. Right now, I am not confident it will not.

gus: “Please, forget about blaming management. Many of those who look after the quality control are actually included staff.”

Bingo gus! (That was for my friend huh).