Vehicle Thieves Target Easy Over Expensive
The local trend in vehicle thefts over the past six years graphs courtesy PG RCMP
Prince George, BC – When it comes to looking at trends in vehicle thefts in our city, it's a case of 'what a difference a dollar makes'…
In this case, the more expensive the vehicle, the less likely it is to be stolen. Not because the thieves wouldn't like a 'sweet' ride, but, simply, because newer vehicles make for a tougher getaway.
"Theft of vehicles over five-thousand really coming down nicely over 2008 – as you can see 93 from a high of 242," said Prince George RCMP Superintendent Eric Stubbs in presenting his 2013 annual report to City Councillors this week.
"This can be attributed, I think, to some newer vehicles, of course, that are a little bit more difficult to break (in) and steal, with the anti-theft devices that they have."
Stubbs said, conversely, he believes the jump in the number of older vehicles stolen last year – up to 93 from 62 in 2012 – lies in the simple fact that getting into them is easier.
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Here are the numbers in a matrix.
The numbers from left to right are: year, theft over $5,000, thefts under $5,000 and total thefts.
2008242149391
2009208138346
2010192118310
2011152129281
20128662148
20139393186
Separating the two data sets into tow distinct graphs does not give one a quick comparative overview. One should be able to see the relationship quickly without looking at the numbers on the vertical axis.
Interesting the article does not mention the bait car or any other program which has been in place for about 10 years.
To see what impact the inclusion of more antitheft devices in more expensive cars has, one should look at how communities without such programs have done.
The question I have is why have thefts under $5,000 decreased significantly as well rather than staying flat or even increasing to take up the slack from the thefts over $5,000.
Also, what impact does breaking up some major theft rings in larger urban centres have on the supply line activity which feeds those processing nodes?
BTW, there are actually six years shown, not 5.
Gus, the reason the thefts both over and under were down in 2012 and 2013 are because someone or someones are likely in jail.
Yes I am serious.
I can believe you because when I went to explore it a bit before I posted, there are several sites which identify that as one of the changes … it appears that they are getting a bit tougher on the sentences.
Maybe there should be instead a chart based on hangings for car theft. They used to hang horse thieves a while back. But then again if you had yer horse stolen you didn’t have an insurance company to deal with and no Hertz rent-a -horse to bail you out. No such thing as repeat offenders with capital punishment.
Harbinger: great, remove them from the Gene Pool!
Mob law is the most forcible expression of an abnormal public opinion; it shows that society is rotten to the core. – Timothy Thomas Fortune
Great way to get rid of the rot!
People #1…Give them a fair trial, then we’ll hang ’em. They breed you know. Mob law when 80% or thereabouts wants capital punishment brought back? Nice to know I’m one of the 80% abnormalities in this country.
People#1 is only in favour of mob law when it comes to applying it to the government.
Sorry Harb, not even close to 80%.
“A new Angus Reid poll released Wednesday, suggests that 63 per cent of Canadians are in favour of reinstating the death penalty.”
“When the option of life imprisonment â without the possibility of parole â is introduced to the mix we seem to change our tune. When the pollster asked respondents if they support capital punishment or life in prison, the majority of those surveyed chose the latter (45 per cent versus 39 per cent).”
This only applies to the capital offence of murder⦠so getting the death penalty for stealing are car (a property crime) is utterly ridiculous!
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/majority-canadians-support-death-penalty-poll-180253516.html
Lets, for example, take PG’s most notorious vehicle thief and destroyer of RCMP vehicles Paul Daniel Shaw for example. That one, I think, should be put to sleep.
Here are the stories of 10 innocent death row inmates, who were luck enough to be exonerated, before they were executed.
It is thought that hundreds of innocent men have been put to death in the United States over the years. Oh well⦠can’t always bat 100%, right? Hmmm⦠is the execution (killing) of innocent people, not akin to committing murder?
http://listverse.com/2013/04/09/10-innocent-people-sentenced-to-death/
Murder = the unlawful, premeditated killing of one human being by another.
A person sentenced to death by a jury or a military court has been handed down that sentence by law. Thus a lawful execution is not a murder.
Innocence does not play a part in it as far as the definition goes.
You are good at creating your own definitions. Difficult to come to an agreement if one does not speak the same language and use the same definitions..
Are soldiers fighting on the battlefield who kill soldiers on the opposing side murderers? Or are they killers? Or are they simply defending themselves with deadly force? Kill or be killed?
Oh, I think by anyone’s definition, killing/executing a “wrongly” convicted person is “wrong”. You can stick to your ridged definitions all you want gus.
Humans are still a barbaric lot. Perhaps we should be moving towards the notion presented in the Hunger Games trilogy.
If someone killed a member of my family, I’d have a hard time supporting the idea of keeping them in warm and snug in jail ‘for life’ (aka 25 years or less with good behaviour).
And what if the person in that warm and snug jail was not the killer of your family member JB? We are talking about the “wrongly” convicted here.
People have been put to death, in the USA, only to have evidence later surface, or testimony proven false, which would have exonerated them.
Nobody, and no system, is perfect… so why bring back the death penalty, only to have those mistakes made “permanent”?
Here are more 18 more cases in Canada where the wrongly convicted, some for murder, have been exonerated.
http://www.aidwyc.org/cases/historical/
while on the otherhand #1 being kept locked up for a length of time watching the world go by is in my eyes equivalent to a death sentence. If we have dna testing that shows beyond a reasonable doubt why not execute the felon and make room for someone else. LORD knows they are lining up to get three squares a day. I fully agree with JB if you can not protect your family and property, whats the sense of living.
..innocent executions? Why, my son is why they put erasers on pencils. Doncha know?
“…you can stick to your ridged definitions ……”
The are not
1. ridged
2. they are not mine
Not only do we have to worry about executing the innocent / wrongly convicted, US states that have the death penalty consistently have higher murder rates than states that do not have the death penalty.
So using the death penalty as a deterrence for future serious crimes is a fallacy.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
Allow me to extrapolate on JB’s hypothesis. What if it were a member of your family that was brutally, premeditatively murdered? Would you still be against the death penalty? Would you be able to take the “higher(?)” road & forgive? Would you place faith in the justice system? Easy to sit in front of a keyboard & pontificate on moral issues without ever having to deal with the reality of such a scenario.
” Not only do we have to worry about executing the innocent / wrongly convicted” Who is we?
They would be forgiven after they stopped twitching detoe!
Questions, questions, questions, I count five of them detoe43.
As long as that rightfully convicted person is no longer in a position to harm any other member of society, I would be satisfied.
As for who is “we”, that would be the same “we” as in if “we” decided to bring the death penalty back in Canada.
In my comments I presented two facts as rationale for being against the death penalty;
Issue #1: Innocent, and wrongly convicted, people have been mistakenly executed.
Issue #2: The death penalty does not deter acts of murders / serious crimes.
I would hope those in favour of the death penalty would present their facts and rational supporting their position.
“Life” is usually 25 years. Canada has a one third two third law on the books. This means you are eligible for parole after serving one third the sentence and if turned down for parole you have mandatory parole after two thirds of the sentence.
So eligible for parole after serving just over 8 years and mandatory parole after 16 years
Ridiculous⦠1st degree murder is 25 years before parole can even be considered⦠period! State your sources slinky.
People: “As long as that rightfully convicted person is no longer in a position to harm any other member of society, I would be satisfied.”
Even if it was your son? daughter? mother? father? For some reason, I highly doubt you would feel as you say.
It’s so easy to talk when everything is hypothetical.
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