OK sports fans—someone in pg must have the true goods on the future of the Cougars– please share..One would think the Citizen article would be fact based, but many other posters challenge this opinion..let the comments roll/role..

Trying to figure out what motivates Harper and Biard on the Crimea situation. Do they really want to drive Canada into a war with Russia? Maybe they think a Canadian soldiers life really is only worth .01 cent.

Its clear they got a hate on for Russia driven by an almost fanatical obsession. Does the Ukraine got recently discovered oil we don’t know about?

Back in November this whole thing could have been nipped at the bud when Putin offered $15 billion to bankroll the Ukrainian financial crisis… he offered to bankroll their financial crisis and allow the Ukraine closer ties to the EU, so long as it didn’t involve NATO on Russia’s door step… no different than America refusing Russia in Cuba on their door step. It was Baird and Harper that were at the forefront goading Ukrainian protesters on with an all or nothing option to reject any compromise with Russia… no association with the west if the Ukraine made any compromise with Russia. That geopolitical decision was akin to the shooting of an Austrian Prince a 100-years ago.

The irony in the Harper allies in the Ukraine is rich with hypocrisy. Only last month Harper was in Israel lecturing to the world that those who criticize Israel are akin to antisemites. Harper declared Canada Israels best friend and basically gave them a blank check declaration of mutual defense… akin to the British promise that led the Poles astray in their belligerence prior to the German invasion in WW2. Now he is giving the Ukrainians that same kind of false sense of security leading us down the same garden path to war.

The irony is that the Harper and Biard allies in the Ukraine is the Svoboda Party, whose leader has denounced the ‘criminal activities of organized Jewry’ and which was condemned by the European parliament for its racist and antisemitic activities. These guys have been declared the first neo-nazis in office in Europe since the end of WW2. They have five ministerial posts in the new Ukraine government including the deputy Prime Minister and the Prosecutor General. Their first act in government was to remove the official status of Russian, spoken by half the country and the majority of the Crimea. How would the French react if Canada removed French from official status in Quebec?

So we have Russia that historically had the Crimea as part of their country since 1783 until Nikita Khrushchev gave it to the Ukraine in the 1950’s simply because his wife was from the Ukraine and they were his power base at the time. A majority Russian speaking autonomous area that is under treaty with Russia allowing for up to 25,000 Russian troops, and the Russian Black Sea Fleet to be based there until 2042, with provisions allowing for those troops to protect Russian interests in the Crimea.

By all accounts Russia has less than 16,000 troops in the Crimea, not near what their treaty stipulates… and they face a far right neo-nazi government brought into power by a coup in the Ukraine that has a serious hate for Russians… so one would think the Russians could be excused for taking proactive measures to protect their interests. Yet for Harper and Baird Putin is Hitler all over again and Canada should do all it can to inflame the situation further?

IMO its not our fight. Its definitely not worthy of sparking WW3 over. Harper has shown he is an extremist on foreign policy, which is why the UN Security Council will have nothing to do with him, and he is a hypocrite when it comes to his words (spoken in the Israeli Knesset) matching up with his actions in allies in the Ukraine.

The obvious solution is free and fair elections and respect for all ethnicity in the Ukraine, as well as economic agreements with Europe and Russia leaving the integration with NATO off the table. That is not going to happen with the likes of Harper and Baird pushing their agenda.

IMHO

Sorry for the length its a serious issue.

eagleone is right, very serious issue.

Brings to mind some questions, is it a diversion to other things that are going on.

mcstuff

I mean harpers involvement.

“Does the Ukraine got recently discovered oil we don’t know about?”

The Black Sea has become somewhat of a hotbed for oil and gas in the past 5 or so years. It should not be that much of a surprise to anyone who knows a bit of history.

In 1943, the US bombed the Ploesti, Romania oil refineries. Romania was an ally of Nazi Germany and their oil supplied much of the needs of the German armed forces.

Apparently further exploration for oil was not done on the Black Sea because there were plenty of other sources available.

Several countries border the Black sea and have exploration rights, including Romania, Turkey, Ukraine and Russia.

Here is a bit of an update page on Black Sea oil/gas explorations.

http://www.geoexpro.com/articles/2013/06/the-black-sea-hots-up

Here are Turkish interest licenses, for instance

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4310/invngn.8/0_3015d_c8579b2f_orig

Seems the dominant Russian speaking population of the Crimea wants to separate from the Ukraine.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-07/crimean-port-city-sevastopol-votes-to-join-russia/5305764

Apparently problems in the area have been brewing for a few years when the Ukraine started imposing new demands on the Russians with respect to the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol.

I think Harper is a small player who just looks at where POTUS goes and trails behind him.

Even though the US does not have the long historic tie to countries such as Saudi Arabia, I am sure that if the country were to become unstable with an overthrow of the royal family, that they would protect their military base interests there as well as the interests of any US citizens working their as well as companies.

Remember poor little Granada ….. 1983

Good find on the recent oil discoveries Gus. One has to figure its the oil that trumps getting in bed with far right extremists when it comes to Harper and foreign policy.

Another thing to consider in light of the ongoing Quebec election campaign… one has to think this Crimea separatism issue will have to play into the Quebec equation.

The argument from the US and Harper is that the Crimea separatism referendum will not be legitimate under international law if only the Crimea votes for it, but it is not approved by the national Ukrainian government in Kiev that came to power through a coup.

That flies in the face of the Canadian clarity act that Harper championed before becoming Prime Minister that would allow for Quebec to separate from Canada with a 60% majority in Quebec regardless of what the rest of Canada thinks. Just more rich irony and hypocrisy in Harpers foreign policy. A catch-22 of sorts that could cause all sorts of problems in the Quebec election. Its like the Harper-Biard duo are pulling all the pins in their hand grenades with no regard for Canadian national interests.

On the up side for BC one has to consider the European point of view, as they get 30% of their natural gas from Russia via Ukraine. Getting it from another source like BC LNG will sure to be getting a second look if the situation gets any more dire.

Water main break on Hart, Some houses flooded, people told to go to friends, city cannot shut off water,till steamer truck gets up here. Great way to start Friday.

Donald Mackenzie , the city commented on the news the otherday that they have no money to repair or upgrade our deterorating infrastructure…but they are still looking at a 45 million dollars performing art center…In their eyes that makes your casuse rather unimportant I would say?

Hope you get the steam truck there quickly….

Harper spends a lot of time grandstanding on issues in Israel and Ukraine, not so much time on the very real threat of separation of Quebec. In fact the Conservative brain trust has been telling us for years that separatism is dead in Quebec.

If Quebec did separate, then the Conservatives would be virtually assured majorities in what remained of Canada. A coincidence? I think not.

Steam truck here. now hoe to wait, Then the Insurance runaround

Looks like the fluoride in the city water issue may come to a head – PG has been hit with a class action lawsuit over it now. Might want to hold off on those PAC dollars for awhile.

I am still upset about the money grab for apartment licenses which has rentals being closed and sold. PG still has poor availability for rentable suites/apartments/duplexes etc. It is only going to get worse. Rentals are now increasing their monthly rates! Some are closing and some are selling them. There is a big Chinese consortium that is buying up all the rentals it can in Prince George in preparation for the big rental rate increase. I got hit with a $50 rent increase notice!

In the case of the Ukraine ,follow the money or lack of money in the case of the Ukraine . Who’s treasury was cleaned out by the previous leader and son .
Who fled to Russia.
Not to forget that the previous leader did a 180 on not voting to join the European Common Market.
Which a majority of Ukrainians wanted.

interceptor: “Looks like the fluoride in the city water issue may come to a head – PG has been hit with a class action lawsuit over it now.”

The guy isn’t a lawyer and he represents 2 people. He was also unsuccessful trying this in Kamloops.

you take all the fun out of stirring the pot JB ;)

Happy Friday

I think we have plenty of things to take care at home, so why get involved in Europe(MOB).

Posted by: Donald Mackenzie on March 7 2014 6:17 AM
Water main break on Hart, Some houses flooded, people told to go to friends, city cannot shut off water,till steamer truck gets up here. Great way to start Friday.
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Yup, awesome planning on the part of our city managers hey Don? For some reason these rocket scientists think waiting for disasters in peoples lives are best dealt with afterward. Very clear and obvious problems that will arise in the future are simply ignored.

inter: “you take all the fun out of stirring the pot JB ;)”

Oh, I’m sure someone will be along shortly to stir it up even more.

“Looks like the fluoride in the city water issue may come to a head – PG has been hit with a class action lawsuit over it now.”

Kevin Millership sued the city of Cranbrook and the city settled out of court

Every time oil dips below 96 dollars one of the oil producers or their lackies rattles a sabre . Higher oil prices are harpers best friend . And harpers best friends sell oil . Unemployment is at 7 % but harper could not care less . Btw Russia sells lots of oil . Higher oil prices helps Putin to keep Putin on the ritz.

Reports of someone with a gun running around College heights elementary school. Cops everywhere.

Seems to be a lot of pro Russian sentiment above.

As Logical One pointed out – the majority of Ukraine wants to joint the EU. They have had enough of a corrupt government that is is backed by Putin.

WW3 Not likely. There isn’t an intelligent country out there willing to go head to head with Russia so instead we get a lot of sabre rattling and sanctions.

As for Russia wanting Crimea. I guess! Take a good look on Google earth at the naval port and Russian fleet in Crimea and it isn’t hard to see the logistical advantage of ruling Crimea.

What would the US do if Hawaii decided to leave the union and the first thing they did was to seize total control of Pearl Harbor?

Putin rescinded his offer of $25 Billion when the former prime minister escaped to Russia and now he complains of western influence.

It seemas that the pundits are blaming the EU and the western for supporting Ukraine by offering them exactly what they are asking for. Assistance to distance themselves from the heavy hand of Russia.

The best thing for the Ukraine is to separate from Russia. They have the resources to provide for themselves and the political will of the majority to do so.

Do the new LED headlights on vehicles bother anyone else at night? I swear I am totally blinded for 5 or more seconds.

So Eagleone you think it is alright to have a referendum in 10 days while Crimea is under military occupation?

Seamut. Allow me to re-phrase your question.

So (Eagleone) you think it is alright to have a Russian inspired referendum in 10 days while Crimea is under Russian military occupation?

I sometimes wonder what world people live in????

Do we really believe that anything that Harper says or Baird says, has any bearing on the world stage??? We are a small Nation (population wise) with a huge land mass, that we cannot effectively protect without the help of the good old USA.

Does anyone really believe that Putin give a s..t what Canada has to say??? In the big scheme of things we are no more effective than a flea on an elephants ass, with rape on its mind.

I sincerely wish that Canadians would come to terms with where they actually fit in the big scheme of things, and then start to make some effort to do the best we can with what we have.

There may be many reasons why we are trying to flex our muscles, and over time some of these will be revealed, however one thing is certain.

The Canadian economy depends to a large extent on Alberta Oil, and Gas, and BC, AB, Sask, MB, natural gas. The problem is there is a glut of oil and gas on the market at this time.

Our best and only, customer, the USA is cutting back on oil and natural gas, and as a result we are soon going to be facing a serious situation with jobs in the natural gas, and oil industry.

We need new markets, however big oil, is doing all it can to ensure that they get these commodities for next to nothing.

I think that the Federal Government will have to take the bull by the horns, and put through the oil line to the coast, for no other reason than to ensure this Country can become the second biggest producer of oil in the world, and to continue our present life style. To do nothing basically will put us all in the poor house.

We have over the years sold the farm to the highest bidder, and we are now renters in our own houses.

Time for Canadian to grow up and smell the roses. We are spoiled rotten, and have little or no knowledge of how the world works, or what impact a loss of our oil and gas industry would have on the Country.

You cant wander around with an ipod in your face, stumbling off of curbs, walking into traffic, etc; and pretend you are a force in the future of this Country.

Open Letter to Chief Joe Alphonse.
Congratulations Joe, you have succeeded in locking your people into another generation of poverty. Of course, the bigger personal victory is yours, since you have solidified your power and leadership for a long time to come. While you enjoy a comfortable income with a generous expense account, the people you represent continue to have much less and deserve much more. Of course, you know that employment, education and financial freedom would give your people the power, knowledge and confidence to challenge the authority of your political leadership. You chose to trade a better future for your people in exchange for supreme and unchallenged political authority. One needs only to go back to the history books to see what becomes of leaders who intentionally keep their nation poor, uneducated, afraid and silenced. Clearly, you fear the scenario where band members are educated, earning, and have the confidence to stand up and challenge their leadership.
The elephant in your room is this… ‘your people want to work’ and business people in Williams Lake see this on a daily basis. Young people come to town looking for work because there is almost nothing for them to do where they live. They want employment, job experience and financial freedom. You have that Joe, don’t your people deserve the same?

We have a soapbox derby today.

British Columbia:

Highest student to teacher ratio for public schools in Canada;

Highest child poverty rate in Canada;

Now this????

“Through good economic times and bad over the past dozen years, provincial spending on children in government care has been slashed by nearly 24 per cent. For every $4 spent in 2001, the government now only spends $3. Yet these children are among the most vulnerable in our society, having been taken from homes riddled with problems, or suffering themselves from mental illnesses, addictions and/or physical disabilities.”

http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/Daphne+Bramham+Drastic+budget+cuts+youth+care+result/9579131/story.html

Good ole BC Liberals, still picking on our kids, I see!

How else are we to pay for the rich’s Owelympic party People#1?

Opine thanks. Hard to text while the wife is dodging potholes.

BalanceBC you nailed it.

How else are we to pay for the all those civil service jobs People#1?

Had to post this, how true

The miracle gas that causes everything and nothing

http://joannenova.com.au/2014/03/the-miracle-gas-that-causes-everything-and-nothing/

“I sincerely wish that Canadians would come to terms with where they actually fit in the big scheme of things, and then start to make some effort to do the best we can with what we have.”

I am going to rephrase that, Palopu because I happen to think that it has general application.

“I sincerely wish that PG Citizens would come to terms with where they actually fit in the big scheme of things, and then start to make some effort to do the best we can with what we have.”

Or how about:

“I sincerely wish that Quebecers would come to terms with where they actually fit in the big scheme of things, and then start to make some effort to do the best they can with what they have.”

Let me try one more:

I sincerely wish that East Coast Maritimers would come to terms with where they actually fit in the big scheme of things, and then start to make some effort to do the best they can with what they have have.”

Now, think on that for a while, and tell us which one of those groups placed by circumstance in their region has been able to do the best they can with what they have:

Canada
PG
Quebec,
Maritimes

Just for fun, let’s add in Alberta …. I am sure by now people get the idea and can figure out the wording for that. ;-)

If;

“The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.” ~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Then;

This Liberal government, and those that support it, are morally bankrupt!

Exactly!

Chevron vs Big Green: Capitalism Finally Grows a Pair

Interesting the lawyer pushing this against Chevron stood to make 600 million.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/06/Chevrongate-capitalism-finally-grows-a-pair-in-the-war-on-Big-Green

Come on spring… Freezing rainfall warning today, be safe out there

We have all read where rising insurance rates are blamed on so called climate change damage well read this from Warren Buffett refuting that and how we are being had.

Warren Buffett says climate change made no difference to insurance on catastrophes

http://joannenova.com.au/2014/03/warren-buffett-says-climate-change-made-no-difference-to-insurance-on-catastrophes/

Speaking of morality I find it strange that there was a group gathered last night at Exploration Place to discuss the merits of legalizing and decriminalizing the recreational use of marijuana.

Some interesting discussions. One of the panelists was brought in because of his RCMP background but he was really not able to speak from that perspective because he was retired.

There was a lawyer, but he took no sides and was just there to provide his interpretation of the law.

There was a medical doctor who did support the decriminalization and legalization of marijuana for recreational as well as medical use (which has sort of been taken care of with some new twists about to come into effect).

The there was a fellow from Sensible BC who had to be brought in from Kamloops, since there is no one here from the group who could speak sensibly about that.

But then many of us on 250NEWS already knew that. :-)

Warren Buffet is a very knowledgeable person.

After all, a man who comes up with this advice must be the smartest old coot in the world.

“Rule No. 1: never lose money;
rule No. 2: don’t forget rule No. 1″

Posted by: People#1 on March 7 2014 11:11 AM
If;

“The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.” ~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Then;

This Liberal government, and those that support it, are morally bankrupt!

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Why are you confusing the government of the day with society? If the people want change the people have to make that change; relying on the government (and bitching about them constantly) isn’t going to change anything. Politicians from every party are there for one reason and one reason only; to line their pockets and the pockets of their friends.

(apologies to whoever I stole that line from!)

Then there is this one from Buffet:

“Every company will eventually be run by an idiot.

“I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will.”

I am shocked and dismayed at the Ministers decision to deny New Prosperity the opportunity to become part of the ‘new way forward’ for our economically depressed region. What really bothers me is that the federal government will most certainly approve the proposed Enbridge pipeline. The Prime Minister and others have repeatedly expressed the importance of building the pipeline. I want to know how the Federal Gov’t can push to approve a Pipeline which will cross over 700 waterways and traverse the territories of many First Nations who are opposed, not to mention the maritime risks associate with such development.
I hope Ottawa has our regions best interests in mind as we continue to lose Forestry jobs due to Beetle kill, mechanization and downsizing of the industry. It doesn’t appear so.
Ottawa is stuck on moving oil from Northern Alberta and appears to be denying projects like Prosperity in favour of approving Oil Sands projects like the Porcupine Mine most recently. Honestly. I am furious. It appears that this project is being used politically ie The Federal Govt needs to demonstrate that it can turn down some resource development projects so it has the political capital and optics to continually approve Oil Sands development applications. New Prosperity has been killed as a political sacrificial lamb. I am bewildered and furious at the decision made by the minister.
For those of you who think tourism, eco tourism etc can support our economy and fund education and social programs. You are dreaming. The 2 nations with the most valuable tourism assets on earth are BROKE… Greece and Egypt.

“If the people want change the people have to make that change; relying on the government isn’t going to change anything.”

That is so true. Somehow people have gotten to believe that because they voted all their positions and philosophies and wishes were transferred with that vote to the person who represents them in government.

Nothing in this world can be further from the truth.

If anyone has an issue that is not being acted on as they see it, they have to get out there and hustle to get other like minded people and create an entity large enough, rich enough and smart enough to push their agenda. No one in government will do that.

Actually it sounded like a certain local company was actually naïve enough to think they could get a pass to a job …… LOL

Few more nuggets from the oracle of Omaha

“Do not save what is left after spending, but spend what is left after saving”

“Never test the depth of a river with both feet”

“Honesty is a very expensive gift, Do not expect it from cheap people”

“I want to know how the Federal Gov’t can push to approve a Pipeline”

Easy, with the stroke of a pen ……

Do people actually think that a little mine near Williams Lake has as much economic impact as selling oil from Alberta? New Prosperity does not even show up as a blip …..

But, for those inclined to think so, it makes for a feather in the government’s environmental cap and causes some to have doubts about how bad the government actually is.

Small change in the self promotion game.

Boy you really must be shocked and dismayed…every 2 minutes! Quit hitting the page refresh button. Hit the Home button instead and then back into this thread:)

“The 2 nations with the most valuable tourism assets on earth …… Greece and Egypt.”

You are joking, of course.

Egypt does not even show up and Greece only as 10 out of the top ten in Europe.

On a world basis …. here are the rankings by numbers of tourist.

France
USA
China
Spain
Italy
Turkey
Germany
UK
Russia
Malysia

Based on dollars to the country

USA (twice the $ as the next country)
Spain
France
China
Macau
Italy
Germany
UK
HongKong
Austrralia
Thailand
Turkey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings
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“For those of you who think tourism, eco tourism etc can support our economy and fund education and social programs. You are dreaming.”

The West Indies have been dreaming for a long time. Easy to do when they are close to countries with a large population with some of the richest populations in the world, and offering the climate and the feel of a foreign country.

The USA … ?

Remember, snowbirds are visitors …. many …. long time …. relatively good money …. and then everyone in the world loves to visit the country they may also love to hate the most. …. ;-)

axman states; “Why are you confusing the government of the day with society?”

I am not, I stated “government, and those who support it, are morally bankrupt.” If an immoral government is elected by the majority of society, then the majority of our society is morally bankrupt.

For those of us who did/do not support this immoral government, it’s not pleasant watching a greedy, self-centred society; sacrifice the welfare and future of it’s own children!

“Do they really want to drive Canada into a war with Russia?”

They are just posturing and trying to look important! Canada and a war with Russia is an inane idea! Like threatening an enraged brown bear with a broken tooth pick!

The original Tartar inhabitants of the Crimea were driven out by Imperial Russia and Stalin finished the job. Very few eventually returned. Since then it was a Russian peninsula with gave Russia’s fleet access to the Black Sea.

Basically it is a matter which does not concern us, not being our business unless we try to make it so.

You missed the point Gus. Your Wiki list misses the point too. Notwithstanding the Great Wall, none of the nations on your Wiki search list have tourism assets that rival the Great Pyramids or the Parthenon. Small nations with enormous tourism assets.

Wiki data would include domestic tourism, favouring nations with large populations.

I went to Winnipeg once. Does that count?

“You missed the point Gus. Your Wiki list misses the point too. Notwithstanding the Great Wall, none of the nations on your Wiki search list have tourism assets that rival the Great Pyramids or the Parthenon”

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LOL, I’d suggest you are deliberately limiting your definition of what a “tourism asset” is in order to help your argument.

Anything that people want to see or experience is a “tourism asset”. That could be a city, something in a city, a landscape, a climate, a culture, an activity, etc.

“Even though the US does not have the long historic tie to countries such as Saudi Arabia, I am sure that if the country were to become unstable with an overthrow of the royal family, that they would protect their military base interests there as well as the interests of any US citizens working their as well as companies”

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That was my first thought as well.

Also, let’s not forget that the folks who overthrew the previous government in Ukraine, by all accounts, are comprised of neo-facists. Is it possible that Baird is confused about who he is comparing to Nazi’s??????

Certainly not saying that Russia’s record on various issues is clean, but why rush into a position on this stuff? I personally think we look incredibly stupid and unsophisticated the way we approach complex issues like these.

NMG:”I personally think we look incredibly stupid and unsophisticated the way we approach complex issues like these.”

Exactly! I call it *shooting from the lip.*

I see that Big Oil has started another weekend round of LETS SCREW PRINCE GEORGE!
They have bumped their price of regular to 139.9 for no apparent reason other than to continually try to drag Costco to their approved pricing levels. I say SCREW BIG OIL…lets boycott the lot of them and buy our gas only from Costco and whoever matches their price!

@harbinger . The best way to veiw Winnipeg is through rear veiw mirror .

Wrong Ataloss.

The best way to view Winnipeg is from 33,000ft…in an aisle seat!

NyteHawwk,
Where does Costco buy their gas ? LITTLE OIL??

Nyte: “lets boycott the lot of them and buy our gas only from Costco and whoever matches their price!”

People don’t even boycott a gas station when it’s cheaper right across the street. Good luck with that.

Are you referring to the 10 cent a litre difference on Domano Blvd JB ?

The Esso stations seem to be using a different (how to lose) business plan.

@middle finger: Yes, that’s the one I see all the time. Yet, I still see cars filling up there (at Esso, where it’s often more expensive). I’m not so sure they’re losing much business.

Well it seems there will be a lot of people outside this weekend now that it has warmed up. I agree ,boycott those stations at 139.9.

JB , maybe those people have company fuel cards and don’t even bother to look at the price?

How come people bitch about gas prices but ignore the carbon, c02 tax scam. There is a big lawsuit in the works against scientists who have promoted the c02 scam.

Wonder if this article will show up in the fluoride case against the city. The Lancet is a pretty reputable publication.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422%2813%2970278-3/abstract

or a pdf of the full article

http://download.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/laneur/PIIS1474442213702783.pdf?id=baaNrJ6r3Xqdad5f9sFsu

Do you have a link seamut ?

I would like to know more ,, and while they are doing that we can still boycott the stations that constantly gouge us :) cheers

On the news a man that got his girlfriend pregnant by poking holes in condoms got 18 months and became a registered sex offender. I wonder if this ruling will apply to women who get pregnant under false pretenses? I can see women’s rights groups flapping their collective arms now if a women ever got charged.

Long but informative read about one of the main players in so called man caused global warming.

http://m.seekingalpha.com/instablog/7360901-robert-wagner/2702553-climate-science-bombshell-may-be-getting-ready-to-burst

Hey monkey; everything you need to know about climate change and global warming can be learned the agency that put man on the moon.

http://climate.nasa.gov

Oh name calling, that all you got.. indicates you got nothing when that’s all you can comeback with.

Umm… I was commenting to monkeyseemonkeydo, you know “monkey” for short? Geez, don’t be so paranoid semut.

Here is some information on your exulted NASA, a shadow of its former self.

Former NASA scientists, astronauts admonish agency on climate change position

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/former_nasa_scientists_astronauts_admonish_agency_on_climate_change_positio/

Seems to be a lot of missing men over the last few years in Metro Vancouver. whats with that?

Ewitt, I think they will use this one http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/dental-impact-of-no-fluoridation-in-calgary-s-water-studied-1.2465385

I don’t know Palopu. I don’t think Harper and Biard are irrelevant in what they say and how that relates to Canada’s position in the world.

Itar Tass the national media for Russia had as their headline story today (even above the opening of the paralympics) how Canada has expelled all the Russian military students from Canada with 24hours notice to leave, and cut all bilateral defense and economic ties to Russia. Also canceled the Vigilant Eagle yearly military exercise in the Arctic. No mention of American or European sanctions. They know who is behind the Western drive to punish Russia.

Interestingly I also read in Israeli media (Arutz Shiva 7) they are upset with Obama because he has canceled American visa’s to anyone with ties to Israeli secret services like mossad, or shin bet, and defense related industries… so these guys are all leaving for Canada when they can’t get their visitors visa’s renewed… then Iranian media (Press TV) has a report out how the Harper government has given passports to a lot of the same Israeli assassins that were accused in the Palestinian assassination in Dubai a few years back (so they can start a new life in Canada). That should be great news for Canadians traveling overseas on a Canadian passport?

It all fits nicely into a pattern. Guys to radical to even be allowed into the US are coming to Canada and getting a new identity and passport from Harper, and meanwhile we are lining up with them making their enemies our enemies. Taking it out on Russian students is the best we can do at this point to punish Russia I guess when it comes to sanctions (makes Canada look rather infantile)? That is what is being reported in world media about Canada these days, and it doesn’t reflect well on Canada as a responsible member of the world community.

Even Britain today said the Canada plan for sanctions is not something they will go along with. Being a country that is in a stock and debt bubble we should be the last ones trying to start a trade war.

Yes, Eagle, better we help start a real war. That’ll get the North American economy humming again. And we might even get ‘full employment’. Every politician’s cherished dream ~ everyone not only working, but working under control. And who’s REALLY in control? Ah, the question we’re not to ask. Take heart, ‘twould be no better if Mulcair or the Liberal pot-head were in Harper’s place.

From seamutt’s link of a 2 year old article.

“April 10, 2012. 49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week admonishing the agency for it’s role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that calls the theory into question.”

If NASA had relied on empirical evidence in developing new parts of the space program, they would never have been able to shoot a rocket into space, let alone put humans on the “spaceship”, get to the moon and land on it, drop people off and lift them back up from the moon and bring them back to earth.

Inquiry of empirical evidence is limited to what one already knows and does not delve into postulating new notions and creating something that will actually function that never functioned before. It is first order design, development, prediction.

It is a much higher level of our thought process.

But then you already knew that, right seamutt?

You are just leading us on like P#1 ……

Oh, wait, P#1 is not smart enough to lead someone on …. LOL

from the following link

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-ukraine-crisis-germany-poll-idUSBREA2616620140307

A German business group says the imposition of economic sanctions on Russia should the Ukraine crisis worsen would have a huge effect on the global economy.

Eckhard Cordes, head of Germany’s Committee on Eastern European Economic Relations, told Reuters: “We feel a clear sense of unease and the fear that the crisis will worsen, bringing with it a spiral of sanctions which will have a massive impact on the economy.”

Some 6,200 German firms are active in Russia, and have invested 20 billion euros in the country, while 300,000 German jobs are dependent on trade with Russia, Cordes said.

Germany is also reliant on Russian energy, and obtains 40 percent of its gas imports from Russia and a third of its oil, although gas stores are well stocked after a mild winter.
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We have to remember, part of Russia in in the European continent and there is a lot of trade and joint projects with Russia. Canada could care less ….. at least Harper could care less and simply try to pretend he can show his muscles as well.

Well not quite in the same fashion as Putin with his shirt off and all that …. LOL.

Does anyone want to join the Marijuana Party?

They were handing out buttons at Exploration Place on Thursday evening. :-)