Thank you Gerald Canron , very well said no one in their right frame of mind would vote for hher and she will do more harm than good .She has already proven that .

sounds like Shari has cooked her goose in more than one way.
Even the birds of a feather aren’t fond of her…lol

I guess she will have to go crawl into her little hole on 4th avenue and hope they will want her back… considering she owns it…lol

Wow Mr. Caron ..after reading how you express your opinion about a fellow human being in this article Shari would have my vote hands down. Your words do not paint a nice picture of yourself and make me wonder how you would handle yourself in a more authoritative position. After reading this article Shari would have my vote hands down. It always amazes me how nasty people can be for personal gain and dont realize how they actually come across to the everyday citizens of our area. Just my opinion..may the best person win.

May the best person win- and it sure isn’t Shari Green.

…. As the conservatives eat each other.

not much new here.

mcshan, you must of been away for awhile or it wouldn’t amaze you that people could be that so called nasty, look how Green has run this city. Being truthful isn’t necessarily being “nasty”.
Just a lot of peoples opinion and may anyone but Green win.
Have a great day everyone.

mcshan: Please help me. What is offensive about the news article? What statement or statements were so wrong?

I actually hope she gets the nomination. Would give another party a chance to have someone elected that might actually do something for their constituents.

Wow, if that was a quote from Caron, I would not vote for Caron….. Bit of a wingnutty comment to make in public. This definitely will identify you as a bit self-righteous type of dude, that does absolutely nothing wrong, and its everyone else’s fault.

At least we know why sherry Greene has been hanging out in quesnel and Williams lake bring chummy with the mayors there lately. Who has been paying for these trips is what comes to mind?
I hope not the city?

nuffsnuff – maybe nasty were too strong of word – my apologizes – offensive? not my words…but when ones platform is:

Gerald Caron has already announced he will seek the nomination, and says when the nomination vote takes place in the riding,” If I am not going to win, I will back one of the other candidates to ensure that Shari Green does not get the nomination”…

…just makes one wonder…I guess enough said (in my opinion of course)….

Just look at greens horrible resume, and that’s just how she treated us PGrs, who would let her do the same to more ppl?

Go away green, very far away, next time I hear or read about you it would be nice if it 2075

I think you all should see the horse Ben is backing. http://www.geraldcaron.com

The riding takes up three distinct and separate towns/cities that have specific issues that need to be brought up with the federal government. It’s a huge riding so I don’t put too much into what anyone is saying at this time. Dick Harris could just decide to run again and that would be the end of it. People from other parts of the riding are a little miffed that their association was took over by a group supporting a candidate from the Prince George end of the riding. Mr. Caron is free to back who he wants should he not get the candidacy from the riding. I appreciate his honesty in dealing with this matter by saying how he feels and not what’s politically correct to say. Ben Meisner is a smart man with a keen interest in the political scene especially with our local riding. I don’t need to know who Ben is backing. Ben is a free guy in a free country and can back who he wants. I think it’s safe to say that he wouldn’t be backing the “Green” candidate.

Meh…

You’re right PGguy, Ben’s not backing anyone, he’s just smearing one of them.

Correct me if I’m wrong……

Riding association can call an election for a new candidate?

Harris doesn’t even live here any more?

Time for the boot, in my estimation?

Sherry is smearing herself OU812.

What I find absolutely mind blowing is that Green would even consider putting her name forward in a riding that included the Hollandia and Haldi subdivisions. Would be hard pressed to find a better example of how NOT to look after the interests of the people that you represent.

That being said I do hope that she seeks the nomination as her campaign literature will offer some interesting reading. How does one spin two meh terms as councillor and a single term as the worst mayor in memory into something that shows she is ready to take three steps forward and also take Quesnel,Vanderhoof and Williams Lake under her wing.

A city ought to be run as a non-political corporation! Non-political in my opinion means not to be beholden to and make special allowances for some political or other special agenda groups. A city should be managed neutrally so as to give the taxpaying citizens (all of them) a decent outcome in respect to fire protection, police protection, highways and other infrastructure and so forth. To complicate matters by intentionally bringing politics with all its well known problems into the equation is asking for major (mayor?) trouble.

How can I phrase this right? I know. YAY!!!!!!

Green, do us all and favour and go home, be quiet and stay there!!! You are the worst mayor PG has ever had!!!

Lonesome: “What I find absolutely mind blowing is that Green would even consider putting her name forward in a riding that included the Hollandia and Haldi subdivisions.”

Considering that those subdivisions make up maybe 0.05% of the total riding, she’s proabbly not all that concerned.

Sure, Ms. Green wasn’t an effective mayor and turned council into a soap opera, but as a backbencher on the Conservative party, life would probably be much easier for her.

All that being said, I couldn’t see her taking Dick Harris’ seat in any scenario. But one can dream.

I think it’ smarter for her (politically) to continue to forget and ignore the Haldi voters and continue to concentrate on the high valued and well heeled local power group that seems to be working very hard to get her the nomination. Those people can make or break you. 100 or so voters in Haldi mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

LOL Johhny Belt consider that a dream , more like a nightmare to me . Good luck

JB Don’t you realize that it is not about the few votes from the people directly affected by those zoning disasters but it shows how easily easily her decisions can be influenced by special interest groups including those who contributed to and backed her run for mayor.

To me these zoning decisions can have more affect on residents quality of life than almost anything else that comes before council including tax rate, roads, PACs or whatever. I know that OCP plans are not set it stone but they should not be changed without good reason and thinking of consequences of the decision. It seems that some on council, including the mayor have their mind made up that it can proceed before cracking the cover on the rezoning documents from staff.
Look what happened with the bottle depot…almost fistfights because they were encroaching onto neighbouring parking lots only months after expansion…proof that it was not the right location.

Can’t tell me that there were not locations that were not already zoned for a bottle depot or a treatment centre without having to shoehorn them into a neighbourhood where they clearly do not fit, mayor and council preferred to dance to the tune of the developer’s flute like well trained monkeys.

Will expect more of the same tonight in regards to the storage facility on the Hart,neighbour’s will be looking at a barbed wire topped chain link fence surrounding a cinder block building and a bunch of roll up rather than some houses that might even have grass and a flower or two.

…roll up doors

Lonesome: “JB Don’t you realize that it is not about the few votes from the people directly affected by those zoning disasters but it shows how easily easily her decisions can be influenced by special interest groups including those who contributed to and backed her run for mayor. “

Aren’t the Haldi residents a ‘special interest group’ as well? For that matter, any residential group that opposes something in their neighborhood is a special interest group.

“Will expect more of the same tonight in regards to the storage facility on the Hart,neighbour’s will be looking at a barbed wire topped chain link fence surrounding a cinder block building and a bunch of roll up rather than some houses that might even have grass and a flower or two.”

No matter what decision is made, the Hart is already a mess of commercial/residential development. One storage facility isn’t going to change that. That ship has already sailed.

If you look at all those that are against what she’s done there’s the Haldi group that thought they were special and shouldn’t have what every other neighbourhood in town has; there’s CUPE – we know their agenda and a net zero contract isn’t what they were looking for, there’s the Pine Valley group – now we get to subsidize every round of golf played there; and there’s Ben. Hmmmm. what would his interest be….. Special interest groups one-and-all. What the basement trolls don’t get is that there is a silent majority out there that is pretty darn happy with what she accomplished by standing up to the old school establishment that was bleeding us dry. If you don’t beleive me, look at the results of the last election. People want fiscal conservatism. They don’t speak out because they are too busy WORKING.

I suppose a neighbourhood could be considered a special interest group in respect that they could expect those elected to follow the terms of a community plan unless there is good reason to change it. Development for development’s sake is not a valid reason.

To change the OCP and allow a bottle depot to expand on a plot of land that is clearly too small rather than tell the owner that there are lots of locations in the city already zoned for an expanded facility is a slap in the face of those who live in the area.
As for the treatment centre, existing zoning allowed for a 9 bed centre and associated staff, why allow an industrial sized facility just because Woods/Fehr bought the house and wanted the most bang for their buck. Once again plenty of locations with proper zoning already in place.

Your comment on the Hart that the ship has already sailed and the area is a development mess lends more credence to my point. Do we want the whole city to look like that strip of land with development having absolutely no rhyme or reason,looking like some kind of Rorschach Test?

BTW I think that those who will be overlooking that barbed wire would tell you that “One storage facility” will make a difference……to them. Do we completely give up on an area because of past mistakes?

Like the Court ruing stated, the OCP is not meant to be a static document.

That’s pretty weak JB!

Don’t know who said…. “Fail to plan is a plan to fail” …… and the city proves this is the case on almost a daily basis.

Quoting a Supreme Court ruling is ‘weak’? Ok then.

Yes it is weak, very weak when applied to the topics at hand. Would love to hear how this decision by the court is relevant to the three cases under discussion here.

In case you missed it I said earlier “I know that OCP plans are not set it stone but they should not be changed without good reason and thinking of consequences of the decision.” Further to this I see no good reasons for changing the OCP for the three examples under discussion. No benefit for the city at large, adversely affects the quality of life for nearby residents and possibly their property values, alternative locations with proper zoning already in place. The only winner is the pocketbooks of the proponents. Bet the city spent more than $81,000 fighting for Woods/Fehr.

The hotel that was proposed for the exhibition grounds shows that even green space, although undeveloped, can disappear with the stroke of a pen.

JIC you think I am anti-development, I am not. I just think that the city is not capable of doing it or overseeing it properly, with no better example than the ham handed way they have handled down town redevelopment for the last three effin decades.

One more thing, I guess this is what happens when you have a glorified realtor leading the city’s virtually non existent planning department, as stated many times by gus (MIA). Still listening gus;-)

“If you don’t believe me, look at the results of the last election.” .. did you look at the results of the last election? She didn’t exactly win with a ringing endorsement for the majority of eligible voters in this city. It was and always will be a vote against Rogers that got her elected and was never and never will be a vote FOR Green. How can there be a silent MAJORITY who is happy with what she is doing if they are silent? How would you know about it then? And the only people who are happy with what she has done are those close to her who have somehow benefitted financially by her being mayor. She how easy it is to quote conjecture as if it is fact with no means of proving or disproving it. Your words ring as hollow as your head.

Hi OU812, is that you Marshall Smith, nice to have you back.

I think we all understand JB that the OCP is not meant to be a static document but when it’s adopted by city council in June 2012 and then amended in late fall of 2012 to suit a developer, you gotta admit that there is something not right there. It is suppose to be a document that is revised every 5 to 10 years. Why even bother spending time and money developing one when it cannot even be followed after a couple of months. Have to agree with Lonesome “city’s virtually non existent planning department”

Didn’t Dick Harris retire years ago?

Vote for Gerald……he’s the one…..Just check out his web site. He has this one in bag….ben is right again.

http://geraldcaron.com/?page_id=12

littlebird. Your wasting your time trying to get JB to admit anything. He is always 100% right on any subject he discusses. He reminds me of one of our illustrious Councilors, who has a similar affliction,.

OU812. Don’t like to rain on your parade, however you are not subsidizing every round of golf at Pine Valley. What little subsidizing that is taking place, is a direct result of the City selling off the driving range that generated huge revenue for the course.

If you want to talk about subsidizing golf rounds, you might want to look at the Prince George Golf and Curling club who are getting a $800,000.00 upgrade to their building with tax dollars, and of course their $143,000.00 per year tax exemption.

There are many other facilities that need City Revenue to keep them running, however Pine Valley Golf Course, is not one of them.

So lets quit pretending that this course is a HUGE cost to the City, and admit that the sale of Pine Valley was to facilitate special interest groups.

Okay, I gotta ask this of you “you’rekiddingme,” that site you posted is an elaborate spoof right? I nearly peed my pants I was laughing so hard.

Where did you find that guy, out of some back alley downtown all strung out on meth? That was well done, and obviously a lot of effort was put into the spoof, so bravo for that.

Too bad Sherry doesn’t run for mayor again! She will never experience the landslide!

Ou812 is living in the 80’s and likely related to sherrie

Palopu: “littlebird. Your wasting your time trying to get JB to admit anything. He is always 100% right on any subject he discusses.”

LOL! Look who’s talking!

Lonesome: “Yes it is weak, very weak when applied to the topics at hand. Would love to hear how this decision by the court is relevant to the three cases under discussion here.”

Weren’t we talking about Haldi Road? Or do you change the subject whenever it suits you?

@OU812: You’re discussing a sensitive topic when you bring up Pine Valley. Palopu will lash out at anyone who dares say anything against it.

Too funny. She calls herself a conservative yet the truth is she spends like its going out of style.

She not only raised taxes ever one of her six years in office, she just finished leading the way in the largest hike in user fees in a long long time.

As someone noted earlier, she ain’t no fiscal conservative. Just check out the city’s books, spending is up again. Her self praise is much like her election promises – full of hot air!

The court ruled in the city’s favour on the basis that they had the right to change the OCP and not on the specifics of the Haldi proposal per se.

That leaves the question if the three examples stated above would stand on their own merit. I say the answer is a definite no, in all three there are better locations that could and should have been used. Better make that two as the storage facility on the Hart is not a done deal….yet.

Still waiting a response whether it is a good idea to make the piss poor planning on the Hart a template for the rest of the city,bc that is the path we are headed down. Also if the residents of that area should continue to cater to the wishes of any developer that comes along. Or do you only answer the questions that suit you?