Did anyone hear a trained monkey speak?
Oh it was Herr Zimmer. The same thing.

“Our Government based this decision on independent scientific analysis” LOL that is a good one Bob!

Northern BC has been annexed by Alberta today.Alberta gets all the benefits and we get a few jobs.A few scraps courtesy of Stephen Harper and his poodles in BC -Bob Zimmer and Dick Harris.These Tories have sold us down the river and they will pay when they are fired in the next Election.

Wishful thinking 2willies. The Conservatives managed to get a majority Government in the last election, with only 5 seats from Quebec.

The rest of Canada is not overly concerned with this pipeline, and probably see it as a good thing. So if Harper loses support in BC he would probably pick up support in the rest of the Country and still get a majority.

It takes more than wishful thinking to change a Government.

Sorry Willie, you are wrong. It is painfully obvious that a trained monkey is all that is needed to run and win for the Conservatives in this riding. Shari Green go……………..

The Druzhba pipeline is the worlds longest oil pipeline and in fact one of the biggest oil pipeline networks in the world. It carries oil some 4000 kilometres, (2500 Miles) from the Eastern part of European Russia to points in the Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, and Germany.

It is the largest principal artery for the transportation of Russia (and Kazakh) oil across Europe.

Hmmmmm. Wonder how they managed to get this pipeline built through all those countries, and have the job done in 6 years.

Maybe we could learn something from these people???

The Enbridge line is some 700 miles.

Too little too late, as usual Mr. Zimmer!

From the CBC news story:
“Natural Resources Minister; Greg Rickford, whose office announced the decision to allow the pipeline, wasn’t available for interviews on Tuesday. The announcement was made in a news release with no ministerial press conference.”

Harper and his Conservatives are cowards!!! Can’t even muster the courage to deliver the announcement personally! Say goodbye to your BC majority in 2015 Mr. Slime Minister!

Heave Steve in 2015. Trudeau and Mulcair both pledge to reverse this pathetic decision, should they form the next government.

“Our Government based this decision on independent scientific analysis” LOL that is a good one Bob!

Okay refute that statement?

Its pretty obvious that a lot of the people opposed to the pipeline are also opposed to the Conservative Government.

In fact I would suggest that one would be hard pressed to find a person opposed to the pipeline that actually voted Conservative.

So my guess is that this is more a political problem than an environmental problem

The NDP, Liberals, and Greens, are still running around in a daze because Harper took them out, and kept them out, and will
probably take them out again in the next election. They grab any issue they can to denigrate the Government of the day, however to no avail.

Go back to Ignatieff, or Muclair, or Trudeau, or who ever is your favourite horse this week, and flog the hell out of them, they still will come in last, because they can talk like hell, but they cant run.

Palpou states; “It takes more than wishful thinking to change a government.”

Guess you forgot about Ontario voting in a Liberal majority last week. Many consider the Ontario election, a precursor to the 2015 Federal election.

Quebec, and now Ontario, have had enough of the Harper ReformaCon extreme right wing ideologues. When the two most populated provinces in Canada reject our dear leader and his minions, its all over but the crying!

Palopu@

The Druzhba pipeline was built by the Soviet Union and its satellites in the early 1960s. The Communist Party didn’t bother with environmental review and didn’t care what local people thought. They also had at their disposal a command economy, including forced labour. Do you really want projects built here in BC to emulate the Soviet model?

Am I the only one that remembers the Mackenzie pipeline ? The one that got started ,well sort of started ,before the internet got started . It was also going to save canada from drying up and blowing away . The thing that is not being said is that while harper is patting himself for being the star of the G8 , we had no pipe line for Alberta’s tar . I keep asking myself , why are they not refining it in Alberta ? Is the answer , that things are so polluted there already that if they refine it there as well , no one would be able to breath down wind ?

Ataloss.

They do not refine the oil in Alberta, for the same reason they no longer make Hershey chocolate bars in the USA. (Hershey Pa)

BECAUSE IT CAN BE DONE 10 TIMES CHEAPER IN CHINA. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

Canada has shut down 20 or more refineries in the past 10/20 years.

billposer. My point is that the pipeline was built, and is presently in use, and seems to be functioning OK.

If we (Canadians) get get this pipeline built, and have it operate safely, and ensure that the ships are safe, then we may as well go back to sleep.

“Hmmmmm. Wonder how they managed to get this pipeline built through all those countries, and have the job done in 6 years.”

They don’t care about the environment in Russia! Just have a look at their logging practices!

All I can say is now the fight starts!

Popcorn please.
Listening to parties argue that only hear their own voices is always hilarious.

A mere 209 recommendations. Nuff said

Peeps: “Guess you forgot about Ontario voting in a Liberal majority last week. Many consider the Ontario election, a precursor to the 2015 Federal election.”

Not that Provincial parties relate anything to Federal, but what a bunch of dummies in Ontario. I guess the ‘have not’ status will continue for the foreseeable future.

““Our Government based this decision on independent scientific analysis” LOL that is a good one Bob!”
Yes Hartly, clearly the decision should be based on uneducated rantings by blogsite fear mongers instead…

These politicians sure like to tell us what we want to hear, but like to leave out the rest of the story. Did we not just recently find out that over 300 scientists believe that the JRP findings were so full of lies and B.S. that it was impossible to approve considering what is at stake here. How dumb do they think we are!

Teachers on the picket line, eco nazis’s going nuts, and indians on the war path. Looks like its war. Time to see who and what runs our country. Long overdue. Harper has seen this stand off for years and here it is.

Let er buck. Lets see who wins.

You forgot “capitalist pigs” Dowdumb.

Zimmer writes, “but we are guided by evidence and not rhetoric”

This is an interesting statement coming from our member of parliament.

– He presumes his side has put forth evidence for which it has not (ie they can’t even provide a spill clean up plan, much less a true cost benefit assessment)….
– By extension of his assertion that ‘they’ (neo-con oil traders) are guided by evidence, and henceforth opponents are not… that the 300 scientist and anyone with concerns is not guided by evidence?
– And he belittles an opposing view by dismissing it entirely by labeling it as ‘rhetoric’.

Really MP Bob Zimmer thinks peoples concerns about a bituman spill that can damage thousands of livelihoods, impact the environment for generations, and involve tax payer subsidization through corporate limits to liability… these concerns are merely rhetoric to Bob Miller?

What we have here is a politician that thinks first and foremost with ideological zeal and has little capacity to step outside of that to understand issues from other relevant perspectives… to command respect on an issue through being informed and having the ability to rationalize a convincing argument… he doesn’t have the mental maturity to fully understand an issue because he demises as ‘rhetoric’ any facts or opinions that don’t fit with his preconceived notions of ideological correctness from group-think headquarters in Harpers hidden sanctum.

Its sad and rather pathetic that an important positions like the sitting government MP for the area is held by a person that is so dismissive of the genuine stakeholder concerns in such an important issue of our times.

Opps sorry to Bob Miller lol… I don’t know who that is, but I meant to say MP Bob Zimmer.

We won, you lost. boo hoo hoo.

Let’s get’r dun.

He spoke: That may be a little premature.

I think Bob Zimmer was issued a statement by “head office” on what to say about this. I guess time will tell as to what he really believes.

“Let’s get’r dun.”

I totally agree.

Time to let the Supreme Court decide whether this project is a go.

The sooner that process starts, the quicker this Harper pipe dream can be laid to rest along with his stupid get tough on crime bills, assault on science and research, and his continuing abuse on veterans.

Let the Supreme Court run this country. Who needs parliament to make decisions? Oh yes, one more thing. Let me vote for the judges on the bench.

Enjoy your fist and last term as a BC MP Zimmy.

It is called due process.

Without the Supreme Court, governments can act like dictators and do whatever they please. Pretty much like this one continually tries to do.

“Time to let the Supreme Court decide whether this project is a go.”
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The people will decide not the courts. They may think they will, but the people will ultimately have the final say.

This is a good time in history to be a lawyer.

Dragon: “Enjoy your fist and last term as a BC MP Zimmy.”

Dream on. Many of “Zimmy’s” constituents in the Peace River work in the oil and gas industry directly and indirectly. If his riding was down in latte-swilling Vancouver, you might have a point.