Good day everyone.. Gonna be hot weekend.. Be safe and come home

Not a good weekend ahead if one has breathing difficulties. One might have less than a day to clear town before the big smoke hits. It moved in quick north of the Pine today so thick that its like the fire is right around the corner, or over the next hill, its now moving south just North of town and will likely hit hard by the afternoon if not by morning.

Its a massive fire with a week of plus 35 ahead, so as long as the wind direction continues to come from the area of the Red Deer Creek fire its only going to pile on with the smoke here in PG.

Meanwhile our local area MP is in Israel with front row seats to the war crimes, cheering the Israelis on as victims, and conveniently ignoring the massive human cost to the Palestinians.

If one can’t see the moral degeneracy when witnessing it first hand… and doesn’t take the opportunity to try and at least talk some balance for those that need someone to speak sanity to their leaders… then what hope does Zimmer ever have of being an effective MP?

The man missed his opportunity to talk peace and now just looks like another enabling zealot IMO.

Those poor Palestinians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

Slinky their country is under occupation, they have no human rights under law, no citizenship rights, no rule of law, and the 1.6 million people of Gaza have been living in an open prison collectively punished for their ethnicity through an embargo from sea land and air that doesn’t even allow through medicine and aid for hospitals and children.

The 100,000 in the town Israel plans to attack today have no where to run, no where to hide, no way to defend themselves from Israeli aggression… and yet they say they will sit in their homes and wait for the storm to come and take them.

So they have lost everything, their country, their land, their right to fish, their right to farm, their right to live… so they send inept bottle rockets with no warheads across the frontier in a futile attempt at defiance.

Ya they are not a good people, but they are still humans with aspirations, feelings of love for their families, and a desire to have their dignity respected. Yet they are up against the most insidious regime in modern times that doesn’t even recognize them as fellow human beings.

Are you defending apartheid Slinky?

Gaza was illegally occupied by Egypt from 1948 until 1967 when Israel took control as the result of a successful defence against a genocidal war against it. The entire Arab world refused, in the Khartoum Declaration, to negotiate peace treaties or the return of territory. Israel finally withdrew unilaterally from Gaza in 2005. Since then there has been no occupation-Gaza has been fully under Arab control. Since 2007 Gaza has been controlled by the Islamofascist group Hamas, which together with other terrorist organizations, especially Islamic Jihad, has launched constant rocket and mortar attacks at civilian targets in Israel. Israel has been incredibly restrained in its response. How many other countries would tolerate rocket and mortar attacks from a neighbouring country before launching a full-scale military response? E

When Israel does respond, as now, it does not bomb indiscriminately but carefully selects military targets, resulting in the lowest ratio of collateral damage in similar circumstances in history. The civilian casualties are the fault of Hamas, which hides military installations in civilian areas so as to use civilians as human shields, which is a war crime under both the Fourth Geneva Convention and the 1998 International Criminal Court Statute.

The bombing of targets in Gaza is due entirely to the genocidal terrorist aggression of the Arabs against Israel and the underlying refusal of Arab/Muslim imperialists to accept the decolonization of Israel and the right of national self determination of Jews.

The idea that Israel wants to kill Arabs is entirely inconsistent with the easily verifiable facts that: (a) the total number of Palestinian Arabs killed by Israel is very small, much smaller than the number killed in disputes among Arab factions; (b) the Arab populations of Israel proper, Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have all been growing rapidly; (c) Israel clearly has the military capacity to kill far more Arabs but does not; (d) Israel demonstrably takes measures to avoid civilian deaths, such as telephoning the residents of buildings near military targets in Gaza and warning them to leave in advance of strikes; (e) even in the current state of war Israel continues to send food and medical supplies into Gaza and to treat patients from Gaza in Israeli hospitals.

Eagleone@You claim that the Arabs in Gaza have lost their country. What country would that be? There has never in history been a Palestinian Arab nation. The only country that has ever existed in borders approximating those of “Palestine” is Israel.

What actually offends the dignity of the Arabs is the loss of any part of their empire. Another example of this is the recent reaction to the likelihood of Iraqi Kurdistan declaring independence. The Kurds are a nation with a distinct language and culture who long preceded their Arab and Turkish conquerors. They have, moreover, shown their ability to create a functional, peaceful, and democratic state. Yet within the past ten days the creation of Kurdistan has been denounced by the PLO and Egypt as an affront to the Arab world and by Iran as an affront to Islam (in spite of the fact that over 90% of Kurds are Muslim).

There is a lot of revisionist history taking place in the above comment by Billposer.

The 1967 war was not a defensive war against genocide. This was a preemptive attack on the Egyptian air force while all its planes were on the ground. Israel wanted to frame the war as started by Egypt, so they attacked the USS Liberty (an American signal intelligence vessel monitoring the area) and Israel killed and injured over 200 American sailors in the process. LBJ had just taken office and was put in power by Israel, so LBJ swept it all under the rug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Furthermore Gaza saw Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza strip in 2005 only to turn it into the worlds largest open air prison under air, sea, and land embargo against all trade and contact with the outside world in the worst case of collective punishment in modern times. A few years ago the Israeli’s beat and detained a Canadian on a Greek ship in International waters for trying to deliver medicine to Gaza… even the fishermen are shot at if they try to fish for food, and farmers are constantly shelled and have their crops ripped up by the IDF. To Israel they are not even human.

One can not equivocate in a hypothetical manor the Israeli situation to another country, because in no other country in the world is half the population living under martial law with no rights, no citizenship, no rule of law to protect them, and every provocation imaginable prodding the population into despair.

One can not argue that this is acceptable simply because the Palestinians lived under colonial rule prior. Israel destroyed over 500 towns and villages and used terror to up root millions that fled to neighboring countries. That the Arabs refuse to sign a peace deal that is ethnocentric in Jewish supremacy for rights of citizenship would be entirely understandable anywhere else in the world, but with the Israeli exceptionalism things like equal rights for all ethnicity, as well as international law don’t apply to them.

Saying that Israel carefully selects its targets to minimize collateral damage is just not true. Attacking the homes of suspects with out due process, as policy killing women and children in the process, is not carefully selecting military targets to minimize collateral damage. It is targeting civilians in collective punishment. One can not hit targets in Gaza the highest densely populated real estate on Earth without having collateral damages. This is a city of 1.6 million crammed into an area half the size of PG… Israel hit 1100 targets on their first day through f-16 fighter jets and ships off the coast. Over a hundred people killed in the last three days, half of which are women and children. Hardly an example of ‘the lowest ratio of collateral damage in similar circumstances in history’.

The bombing of targets in Gaza this time around is because Israel killed three of their own teens (listen to the teens cell phone call, they were killed on day one and the government knew it but played the rouse for maximum punishment on the Palestinians using the search as a pretext for mass human rights violations), and then blamed it on Hamas rounding up Palestinians by the hundreds and having a free for all on Hamas families. Netanyahu wanted an opportunity to crush Hamas and implemented this whole process the day Hamas agreed to a unity government with Fatah. Hamas strikes back in the only way they can, with bottle rockets that can’t be aimed at anything, and do very little damage.

Palestine was a legitimate entity under British rule, and prior to that under Turkish rule. Prior to the creation of Israel all peoples had the same rights under the law whether Jewish, Christian, Druze, Muslim, or athiest… it wasn’t until the creation of Israel that peoples rights were conditional on their ethnicity, and that policy is blatantly racist and it makes Israel and the zionist project one of the most racist in human history.

In Canada we all have equal rights to protection under the law as voting citizens, we have a multicultural society that protects the dignity of peoples of all colors and religions. In Israel rights to protection under the law and citizenship are arbitrary based on ones religion and ethnicity and they run an apartheid state. The two countries are polar opposites on the scale of human dignity. It is sad to see our politicians sell out the values of our country as they bend over backwards to justify the crimes of the Israelis.

BTW The zionists know their project has failed. They know their settler policy killed the two state possibility and that the world at some point will demand an end to apartheid. The Ashkenzi zionist are already well into their planning for their next proto state back in their ancient Kazari homeland on the boarder between Russia and Ukraine… I believe eventually they will abandon Israel to the Arabs, Christians, and Sephardic Jews… who will then be able to live in peace as equals as they did before the creation of Israel.

Time Will Tell

Thank you Val P on the Real Estate comment yesterday , as you said a waste of money, I never in my life seen anything like the ones in PG and never would use them a real horror story. And that is the truth . They will try and sell you everything you do not want , higher prices rakes in higher comission and also some companys may give out trips to the high sellers . Get rid of them .Sell and buy your own .

Make sure your campfires are put out you idiots! I’d rather my tax dollars went to teachers than to fighting fires because you’re too stupid to put them out.

Just the beginning.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gitxsan-first-nation-evicting-rail-logging-fishing-interests-1.2703664?cmp=rss

“Kelsh says one of the biggest concerns is that the blaze may cross into Alberta”

OMG! imagine the horror if this were to happen! What will Alberta do if this devastating possibility were to occur?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/red-deer-creek-fire-jumps-to-5-000-hectares-1.2703629?cmp=rss

Dragon: “Just the beginning.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gitxsan-first-nation-evicting-rail-logging-fishing-interests-1.2703664?cmp=rss“

Yep. The Supreme Court has sold everyone down the river.

It is too nice a day and we have far too many problems to look after here at home in Canada to waste our time on the political issues mentioned above. But, if one has a few minutes to spare one might visit this for information about how the colonial powers arrogantly divided up the world amongst them, without any regards to ancient ethnic groups, people and human rights (in 1916)].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

Most of the problems in the Arab world are rooted in this insanity, schemed about and perpetrated before, during and after the First World War, a century ago and there will never be any peace over there until the misdeeds of the colonial powers have been acknowledged and corrected.

Perhaps us, living in a wonderful country, should stand aside and let them over there halfways around the planet, try to sort out their concerns until they find out that an imperfect peace is vastly preferable to any kind of war.

Have a nice weekend and enjoy every minute of it!

Peace in the middle east, when was there ever peace? They have been at each other’s throats since the beginning of time.

Interesting how Eagleone can covolute the facts. Much larger problems happening over there right now.

hot week end, haven’t seen numbers like that for years.

A quote in a news article on the war between Israel and Hamas is right on the mark as it said “Israel uses it’s weapons to defend it’s civilians while Hamas uses it’s civilians to defend it’s weapons”. Nuff said. Let’s enjoy the freedoms we have and have a great, safe weekend.

Who thinks Northern BC should leave and form a new province, maybe with the Yukon?

Why should Northern BC form a new province??

The population from 100 Mile House, to Ft Nelson North and Kitimat Pr Rupert West, including the little City of Prince George is approx. 350,000 people. Population of the Yukon Territories is approx. 35000.

So your Northern Province would have a population of 385000 people, of which over half would be unemployed, underage, or retired.

So with approx. 190,000 workers (Much of them Government) you would have one hell of a job trying to get any services etc;

So much for that pipe dream.

Comment Posted by: Dragonmaster on July 11 2014 7:21 AM
Make sure your campfires are put out you idiots! I’d rather my tax dollars went to teachers than to fighting fires because you’re too stupid to put them out.
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No hesitation by you in taking liberties in insulting people.

Keep right except to pass. :)

Palopu if you take the RDs of Cariboo, FFG, Bulkley Nechako, Peace River, Northern Rockies, Skeena Charlottes and Central Coast, you get a population of 307,000.

We woud own 40% of the generating capabilities of BC Hydro. All of the oil and gas revenues, 60% of the Timber harvested, the biggest mines in the province.

We could keep this revenue for our selves, make some regs that get head offices into PG (Canfor is one great example), take care of our infrastructure issues, and determine our own fate.

Where is the downside? Where is the service coming from right now? How is being attached to southern BC helping us in anyway shape or form? Specifically.

Cheers!

The average age in PG is much lower than the rest of the province. We are “young mans” country, and a cash cow being milked by the aging south.

And as for the unemployed a great deal of those people are the responsibility of federal gov’t.
Federal Gov’t looks after

First Nations
Unemployment
Fisheries
Defense
Immigration

Our new Province of New Caledonia would administer health care, transport, resources, wildlife management-think no more Surrey moose hunters-, provincial fisheries, etc. With a vastly improved coffers from all the resource revenue the things we could do are incredible.

For example if the provincial debt is 45 billion we would be responsible for 5% (5% of pop in BC is the north) so we would have 2.2 billion in Debt.

I think Stumpage revenues would wipe that out in the first year. We would be sitting on Hundreds of billions in a Sovereign fund within a few decades.

LNG is worth a lot of money. Who pays the price for higher real esate and environmental damage? We do. Who gets paid for it? Well we would get 5% of the benefits.

Please someone give me one thing that comes from Victoria that we would miss.

A far better idea would be to become part of Alaska.

Do we also take on a percentage of Hydro’s debt.

I suppose that New Caledonia (an overworked name) would have a capital City. I suppose that would be Prince George, even though Whitehorse is already the capital of the Yukon.

At the end of the day Prince George would be sucking up all the tax dollars as opposed to Victoria, and the Greater Vancouver Area.

If the City of Prince George is any indication of the type of Government we would get in this Utopian Province of New Caledonia then we would be in serious trouble.

Better to reform the Government and Agencies that we have than re-invent the wheel.

A far better idea would be to become involved in our political system as it stands today. Having a 37% turn out at election time is pathetic. And to believe all the stuff that our politicians feed us and get away with is even worse.

Get involved.
Cheers

Palopu,

If we owned Hydro and used a small portion of it do you think we would continue to sell southern BC power at North Americas second cheapest rate, or perhaps, would we sell our power at market value?

If we were to sell our power at market value BC Hydro would have no debt in no time.

It is kind of like how the King of Saudi Arabia keeps gas prices low so his citizens keep him in power. The results are that the resource is wasted, to placate a few people. Far better to sell things at market value and use the profits to redistribute to the needy. IE better that someone below poverty pays an extra 5 dollars a month for hydro and gets a 100 a month in compensation instead of subsidizing the 3800 square foot mansion with every gadget known to man.

As for name, New Caledonia is a work in progress. As for the City of PG, if it was a capital city I think the quality of governance would be much higher in proportion to the value that we would control.

IE- Northern BC pumps money south and gets little in return, which causes disinterested governance. If we were the capital I am sure the quality of people atttracted to the job would increase. As it sits, why bother, Victoria is so far away.

If we lived in Europe there would be 3 or 4 countries between Prince George and Victoria.

And finally “Prince George would spend the tax dollars instead of Victoria”.

Tax dollars aren’t spent like candy. They all have a value. A teacher, doctor, nurse or police officer are all “spending” tax dollars.

I for one greatly appreciate the value of those tax dollars when I drive on a nice road that is relatively free from bad drivers, and if I were to have an accident I am assured I will be looked after.

That is what seperation is all about. And even if we don’t succeed to seperate- you can bet Victoria will redistribute some wealth to head off the movement. That will mean better education, health care and roads.

Cheers! (To New Caledonia)

Would New Caledonia have an “opt back in” clause for when forestry tanks, resource prices tank or alternative energy sources are developed?

NMG- If you do the research and find something I haven’t found let me know. Otherwise, as near as I can tell, there has NEVER been a time in the histroy of the province when the south sent more north than vice versa.
Logging has been going on in this area for 100 years or so.
Also as a province we would be entitled to be have not province and be eligible for transfer payments. It seems to work for Quebec and the maritimes.

I occasionally drive a company truck. In this truck happens to be a gps of some sort. It sends alerts to the big boss when this truck happens to travel at speeds 10 over the speed limit. Please realize that I’m not trying to hold up traffic on purpose, I’m just trying not to get that call from my boss. I don’t appreciate getting fingered when you fly by me well in excess of the posted limit.

Furthermore as a Province we would have our own allotment of MPs. Currently the Yukon has 2 MPs with a population that Palupo accurately points out of 30,000.

We would likely have up to 6 MPs if PEI (130,000 people) and NFLD (500,00 people) with 7 is any doubt. Sure beats having 3 like we do now (Caribo PG, Peace River PG and Skeena-Bulkley)

That would be a 100% increase in federal representation.

Once again someone provide me some facts to convince me I am wrong.

Sorry PEI has 4 seats with 130,000 people not 6.

Three quarters of the population lives below the Kamloops line across the province. All the wealth from the industry that makes Caledonia so rich goes to off shore corporations. The people of PG cant control City Hall. So tell me how would this new province survive? Me thinks your head is up you know where.
Cheers

Cupricity – “if we owned BC Hydro”
That might be one stumbling block. If we seperated do you think the province would just say “ok, here you can have it”?

I’m not against your idea I just don’t think it would be easily done short of buying out the province and being in such massive debt we would dream of only having the lower mainland suck off of us.

Hey, NO campfires–as of noon today. DUH!!
So never mind being careful—just don’t!

As for northern BC separating–never gonna happen. The southern part would be lost without our resources!

Furtree wrote “No hesitation… in taking liberties in insulting people.”

Dragonmaster is making a valid point. These people didn’t seem to understand the tap on the shoulder, so now a hammer is required.

weaksauce wrote “A far better idea would be to become part of Alaska.”

Seriously? You’d rather get all huggy-bear with the likes of Sarah Palin? Oh my….

Why would the south send more north? The Province of BC is there to serve British Columbians and the overwhelming majority of them live in the south. Substantially more money should flow south as opposed to north.

You seem to think that you own the resources. You don’t, the Province does.

Oh and good luck getting the other 4.3 million people in BC to support the plan and that’s assuming everyone in “New Caledonia” would want to separate,which they wouldn’t.

Even better luck getting any court in the land to exert the wishes of 300,000 over the wishes of 4.3 million people.

Okay, so if someone can use a -30 day in PG as proof that global warming doesn’t exist, is it okay to use a +35 day as proof that it does?

Look on the bright side, at least it’s a dry heat in PG ;)

NMG – Even better luck getting any court in the land to exert the wishes of 300,000 over the wishes of 4.3 million people.

It’s not that difficult. It’s called the Supreme Court of Canada who just handed title to every FN in B.C. that didn’t sign a treaty. The wishes of the few, clearly trump the wishes of the many in B.C. now. Want to develop – you must make a deal with the local FN first – or you just can’t do anything at all, doesn’t matter how many thousands are put out of work, unless the province can pretty much prove it’s in the national interest, and even then, the FN would simply block access – being quite emboldened by this ruling.

That said, I’m not sure if this is a good or bad thing. The way the government seems hell bent in shipping every last drop of energy to China, maybe it’s a good thing we have the FN to slow down the flood of resources out of here, and leave some for future generations.

Separating northern BC from the rest of the Province would solve absolutely nothing, and be of no real benefit to either those in the north or in the south.

For the very same problem would persist in both entities that keeps all of us in the present one from achieving our full potential.

Namely, we cannot BUY, with the total amount of wages, salaries and profits generated and distributed to us as ‘incomes’ over any given period of your choosing, ALL the ‘production’ we have generated in that same period.

Not at the total financial costs of its making, ergo, what must be charged in prices for it. And if we TRADE those surpluses in that production over and above what we would ever need or want for our own needs or desires, for some other country’s alternate surpluses more desirable to us, we can’t BUY them, and fully pay for them, either.

If we could, we wouldn’t see the exponential growth in debt levels we’re piling up ~ far too large to be blamed on simply ‘profligate spenders’.

NMG: “Okay, so if someone can use a -30 day in PG as proof that global warming doesn’t exist, is it okay to use a +35 day as proof that it does?”

Maybe, until someone on the Weather Channel labels this a “Heat Vortex”.

NMG. It not unusual for people in this area to believe they own all the resources North of Hope.

The Middle East has seen many wars won and lost involving territory and religion.
I feel the 6 day war was the last war that was won and unfortunately the Palestinians lost.
We now have the Palestinians blowing up buses and restaurants with the intent of killing innocent women and children then crying to the world about war crimes when Israel retaliates. I am certainly not an advocate for the Jews in fact I think a lot of the historic Jew atrocities have been forgotten or over looked because of the holocaust, however, I cannot empathize with a people that stand by or encourage the harming and killing of women and children or promoting suicide bombers.
I feel lucky that we live in and with countries that advocate the separation of church and state.
In most Muslim countries the church is the state/government and for the most part primitive and barbaric in nature.

Go George go.
Cheers

Furtree: How would you describe them? Poor misguided individuals who were never taught properly? I think if one doesn’t know how to properly put out a campfire, they should never light one in the first place.
These are probably the same types who leave their garbage all over the campsite and destroy what facilities have been provided for everyone’s enjoyment and benefit.
Therefore I think Dragonmaster’s estimation of them is probably correct.

Mary MacDonald and opinion1, I agree with both your comments under the Horgan Touches Down to Talk Tsilqot’in and the Teachers Rally news stories. Unfortunately you are both being trolled by JB, who correctly states ” if my name was to be posted to my comments some nut case would be threatening me and my family. Really? Maybe it because of the many people you have P.O.ed through your spiteful comments JB.

I see you are trying to spread racial hated and animosity across the Horgan Touches Down to Talk Tsilqot’in story and this Friday Free For-All discussion thread, so I will respond to you in kind on this discussion thread as well.

Can you not read your own linked news story JB? The Gitxsan state; “They (government) have to abide by the laws. We’re prepared to negotiate.” They further state; “The band has tried since then to negotiate with the Crown but hasn’t made any progress.”

The key word here is “negotiate”, and the Gitxsan are asserting their rights and title to their land to get both the government and industry to the negotiation table by a certain date. The decades of uncertainty surrounding the “land question” are over, industry never did like uncertainty when it came to making huge investments to extract natural resources in BC because of the “land question”. The Supreme Court did everyone a favor, and has ended that uncertainty. The only way the Gitxsan would ever be forced to evict anyone from their traditional lands is if our BC government and industry carried on ignoring title holder rights of the people of the land they are conducting business on, as recognized and affirmed by the Supreme Court of Canada.

JB, your comment is ignorant, reckless, and fear mongering, it serves no purpose but to instill; an us against them mentality that only extreme right wing Conservative ideologues would support. First Nations who oppose Enbridge have been called “terrorists” and “enemies of Canada” by our extreme right wing Conservative government, so it must make you giddy with excitement, posting agitating comments that would promote an “us verse them” Oka style confrontation with our First Nations.

Now is the time for reasonable, level headed, thinking and comments on this subject! Comments that look for, and seek out, fair and just approaches to land and resource sharing with our First Nations. Other countries, like New Zealand and Australia, are seeking out meaningful partnerships with their Indigenous People, so why can’t we?

Nothing will matter if Fukashima blows up!

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2704547

I’m back in town for a few days Peeps! Sorry that I didn’t get to respond to your comment on an earlier thread, as the thread was shut down to new comments.

With regards to this thread, I find it rather humorous and just a tad hypocritical that you would mention J.B. and suggest that he has P.O.’d many people with what you call spiteful comments, while on an earlier thread you used spiteful comments towards me! Your “Hart Gay” comment to me was spiteful and insulting to me, a 100% heterosexual man! I believe that it might very well have also have been a slap in the face to the entire “gay” community!!

So much for being the man of the People, eh Peeps!! You can insult me, you can insult heterosexual people, you can insult the Gay community, you can insult JB, you can insult Interceptor, you can insult cupricity, etc, etc, etc and then you post with some “holier than thou” attitude???

You were hypocritical when you posted as Peeps and you are still hypocritical!! But that’s just my opinion, an opinion that I am ENTITLED to!!

So, shall I ask members of the Gay Community to join us for coffee? Perhaps I should also invite JB, cupricity, interceptor and anyone else that wants to join me in seeing what a hypocrite looks like in person?

I’m a Conservative Redneck who isn’t worried about being politically correct Peeps! I call ’em as I see ’em!!

Give more, Pylot Project as you both agree with the tone of voice Dragonmaster used that’s your choice , just as it’s my choice to disagree with his reference to all of us here as idiots. Read it for it says.

Peeps/BeingHuman: “Maybe it because of the many people you have P.O.ed through your spiteful comments JB.”

Wow. Hypocritical much? At least I didn’t have to change my moniker like you did.

Peeps: “JB, your comment is ignorant, reckless, and fear mongering, it serves no purpose but to instill; an us against them mentality that only extreme right wing Conservative ideologues would support. “

Well, from the link I posted, the Gitxsan are evicting people off of ‘their’ land. Other bands are looking at doing the same. All the excuses in the world as to why they are doing it are irrelevant. It is happening.

Comment Posted by: JohnnyBelt on July 11 2014 8:06 AM
Yep. The Supreme Court has sold everyone down the river.
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Govt at all levels has previously sold us down the river.

Comment Posted by: furtree on July 11 2014 9:26 AM
Comment Posted by: Dragonmaster on July 11 2014 7:21 AM
Make sure your campfires are put out you idiots! I’d rather my tax dollars went to teachers than to fighting fires because you’re too stupid to put them out.
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No hesitation by you in taking liberties in insulting people.
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Calling a spade a spade. Did you forget to put out your fire?

Comment Posted by: NMG on July 11 2014 12:35 PM

You seem to think that you own the resources. You don’t, the Province does.
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The people are the province! The people own it!

I think Hart Guy is in some serious need of mental health counselling, his and Johnny Belt’s obsession with this person named peeps is off the map.

Get some help guys!

Comment Posted by: peegee on July 11 2014 11:54 AM
I occasionally drive a company truck. In this truck happens to be a gps of some sort. It sends alerts to the big boss when this truck happens to travel at speeds 10 over the speed limit. Please realize that I’m not trying to hold up traffic on purpose, I’m just trying not to get that call from my boss. I don’t appreciate getting fingered when you fly by me well in excess of the posted limit.
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Same here. On the other hand many business owners should be watching a whole lot of their employees that drive their vehicles. Many are dangerous drivers that are going to kill someone. I see it everyday.

Oh and by the way, I am Conservative and you Hart Guy are making the rest of us look bad!

Comment Posted by: NMG on July 11 2014 12:45 PM
Oh and good luck getting the other 4.3 million people in BC to support the plan and that’s assuming everyone in “New Caledonia” would want to separate,which they wouldn’t.

Even better luck getting any court in the land to exert the wishes of 300,000 over the wishes of 4.3 million people.
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Thats one of our biggest problems here. Allowing courts to decide whats best for 300,000 people.

Comment Posted by: axman on July 11 2014 9:34 AM
Keep right except to pass. :)
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Where that rule is in effect!

Comment Posted by: LUMBER1 on July 11 2014 2:06 PM
The Middle East has seen many wars won and lost involving territory and religion.
I feel the 6 day war was the last war that was won and unfortunately the Palestinians lost.
We now have the Palestinians blowing up buses and restaurants with the intent of killing innocent women and children then crying to the world about war crimes when Israel retaliates. I am certainly not an advocate for the Jews in fact I think a lot of the historic Jew atrocities have been forgotten or over looked because of the holocaust, however, I cannot empathize with a people that stand by or encourage the harming and killing of women and children or promoting suicide bombers.
I feel lucky that we live in and with countries that advocate the separation of church and state.
In most Muslim countries the church is the state/government and for the most part primitive and barbaric in nature.
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Religion is the root of all evil!

Comment Posted by: furtree on July 11 2014 6:42 PM
Give more, Pylot Project as you both agree with the tone of voice Dragonmaster used that’s your choice , just as it’s my choice to disagree with his reference to all of us here as idiots. Read it for it says.
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Does anyone else see where I called all of you here “idiots”? I confess some are, but not all.

JGalt, I didn’t say that I was a Conservative! I said that I was a Conservative REDNECK!!

By the way, for those that don’t know, I am an autobot troll who’s sole purpose is to crank things up on this site once in a while while occasionally posting something semi-intelligent, haha!

@Dragonmaster, I have on occasion agreed with comments that you have made. Regarding your comment at 8:42 p.m., I wholeheartedly agree. We have been sold down the river by ALL levels of Government. Haven’t I consistently stated that I believe that it’s high time for a complete review and rationalization of Government, at all level, from the very top down to the very bottom??

Ohh wowwww things really took a turn for the worse… Too bad all those didn’t live next door to each other.. :)

Welcome to Prince George! Hwy 97 north of Salmon River. More idiots just for you furtree

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I recall the “complete review” comments from the past Hart Guy.

Fires or no fires?

http://issuu.com/bcwildfire/docs/kamloops_fire_centre_-_wildfire_new_90aa83a95678ea

Now to find the one for the lonely north.

This is the one.

http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/Bans.asp

Dragon, you are a self rightious tool.

Dicky dow your an ahole of the highest magnitude in my opinion.

Don’t ya hate it when someone gets under your skin Dick?

It seems any story that remotely mentions anything aboriginal in the wake of the supreme court ruling is being closed for comment? Why Ben? Scared people won’t be pc enough for you? This site is getting lamer and lamer. I have no idea what exactly you think people will say that would cause this site to be held responsible. Ya ya, I know, open my own blog site, yada yada. But not everyone wants a blog site or comments site, etc, just a place to voice an opinion, but that probably is not going to be here unless it is some topic that is squeaky clean. And the story only applies to non-aboriginals.

Coming from you, that’s a complement duhragon.

Sould be interesting to see who gets kicked out of the sandbox this week.

Here is a link to a Maori Land Ownership and Land Management in New Zealand document. Just need to look at the table of contents to understand where we should be going with our First Nations. Get use to this folks, this it’s most likely where we will be heading!

http://aid.dfat.gov.au/Publications/Documents/MLW_VolumeTwo_CaseStudy_7.pdf

I understand all this change must be taking some of you out of your comfort zones, but I think its time to elect a grown up intelligent government that will move us forward on applying the law ;-)

I was kind of wondering why the comment sections get closed so fast?

Everything was cruising right along until “one of those people” started flapping their lips.

Coming from you, that’s a complement duhragon.