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Candidates Forum Discusses Homeless Issues, Part 1

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Council candidates respond to questions from people affected by homelessness.  Photo 250News

Council candidates respond to questions from people affected by homelessness. Photo 250News

Prince George, B.C. – The issues and possible solutions surrounding homelessness in downtown Prince George was the focus of the Community Partners Against Homelessness all-candidates forum Saturday at the Fire Pit cultural drop-in centre on Third Avenue.

And the turnout among both candidates and those directly affected by poverty and homelessness seemed a strong indicator that there will be many issues on the plates of the new council to be elected November 15th. Twenty-one of the twenty-five people running for the nine council seats attended the forum which came at the conclusion of Homelessness Action Week.

Candidates briefly outlined their election platform and then answered questions pertaining to homelessness.   The first question dealt with the tools available to deal with homelessness. Cameron Stolz municipal government can meet with organizations, lobby for federal money and make land available. He says council did this among a lot of discussion and controversy but he stands by those decisions that have made affordable land available for housing for people. Jeffrey Cunin says we need more housing and the ability to give people something to look forward to in terms of a home that is more permanent. Mayoralty candidate Don Zurowski says you need to have a specific want when you go to senior government with a request dealing with homelessness.

How would you address the need for more housing for singles? Travis Shaw says people don’t choose to be homeless and need help getting back on their feet. He says the use of shipping containers for housing has been successful in Vancouver. And he says there needs to be more communication with people who are on the street. Don Roberts says we should get transfers from the federal government, be a bit creative. He liked the idea of turning shipping containers into homes, and said its being done for about $40,000 each in the United States. Debora Munoz says we need more affordable housing for seniors and students and also need more density in apartment and condos which are close to bus stops and amenities.

On affordable housing initiatives, Terri McConnachie says we need to have close contact with the agencies that deal with the housing issue, work with the residential construction industry, provide development opportunities and incentives and be progressive to make it happen. Susan Scott spoke of a person who created a coat that could be converted into a sleeping bag and delivered a number of coats to people. She then set up a factory to employ people from the street and gave them income, skills and personal respect.. Asked what housing initiatives she would like to champion Monica Peaock said she has always been in favor of the shipping container idea but says it takes community partners to make it happen. She also says we need to re-use materials and also have to speak with the people on the street.

What would you do to provide faster sidewalk snow removal? Ravi Saxena says to help people downtown we have to let them be a part of society and support them. The snow clearing is part of the city’s job. Harry Ulch says the solution to faster snow removal is getting the equipment out of the yard. He says “the wrong step is to ask the Americans, give them $130,000 and ask them how to plow the snow.”   Albert Koehler says we just have to do a better job. He says the City has implemented the consultant’s plan and has to sit down and be educated and be aware of the problem. He says we need a positive attitude and mindset.

Asked what council can do to encourage mixed style housing in the city, Jillian Merrick gave credit to the current council for changing zoning in many neighbourhoods that allows for narrow lot housing and carriage homes. She says seniors housing should be located next to playgrounds, making sure that there’s an interchange of neighbourhoods instead of separating the various facets of the population. Garth Frizzell likes the idea of a navigator who can urge developers to consider housing problems, affordable housing, social housing and subsidies and tax exemptions which apply to various locations. Brian Skakun says under the changes mentioned by Merrick those building single row housing, narrow housing can go directly to City Hall for a rezoning on these lots and get them developed without having to go through the process of sitting before council. He also says we need private investors to come in, know that City Hall is open for business and have this type of zoning.

The next question was, would your priority be the homeless of the city or the Winter Games, and what is your plan to include downtown people in the games? Murry Krause got first shot at that one. “I’d have to say that homeless people would be my major concern.” He says the games are almost here and he’s hoping for a major celebration for our community. He thinks it will inspire self-pride. He says we need to develop a plan for the homelessness in the city and start dealing with it. Dave Wilbur says we can’t undo what is a fantastic opportunity, and says the legacy can be decent housing and opportunities downtown. He says preparing for the games has shown there is a lack of housing and planning will provide some solutions. Roy Spooner says his priority is the people of the city. He says the games are wonderful “but if we can house 5,000 athletes, why can’t we house 400 people? If we can figure out a way to look after them ( athletes) for two weeks why can’t we look after 400 people for the rest of the year?” He says maybe we need to sit down with singles, families, people living on the street and have a conversation.

Candidates were asked what they know of the Housing First strategy and how that would be implemented in Prince George. Lyn Hall says the strategy is a good start and has provided a foundation to move forward on affordable housing but a lot more has to be done. He says partnerships and resources need to be strengthened and council has to get out into the community to come up with a plan around creating affordable housing. He says there are developers looking to create seniors housing in the core and feels that will be the key to revitalizing downtown. Coralee Larsen says while she is not aware of the Housing First strategy, revitalizing the downtown core has been discussed ad nauseum. She says there is some movement coming with the OCP, “as long as they don’t keep going back and re-visiting it every couple of years we should be ok. She says we need people downtown in order to have a vibrant community but we’ve been passing by-laws that are counter=productive to that end. She says “Prince George isn’t 20 Prince George is having a mid-life crisis.” Jason Luke also doesn’t have much information about the strategy but says he wants to see some downtown properties that are owned by the city sold. He says the anchor businesses and corporate business can spend the money, get a deal on the land and then other businesses will open up around them. He says if some night life is added it will get people coming downtown and form a sense of community.

At the outset of the forum on homelessness the candidates in attendance were informed that the questions that were being asked came directly from the people who usually visit the Fire Pit drop-in centre. They were reminded that it is a cultural drop-in centre, that those on hand were witnesses to everything that was being said and that people would be held to what they were saying.

We’ll have Part 2 of the All-candidates forum on homelessness on Monday,

Comments

Its all a BS waste of money. The ‘homeless’ problem will never change, it hasn’t changed. Stop building 5* apartments for them, maybe they will go away. There is a reason major cities have never found a solution, PG won’t either.

What the City needs to do is stop putting money from senior levels of government into their pet projects and divert it to the homeless problem.
Cheers

With all the increases in taxes, and service charges, gas, electricity, insurance, etc; etc; there will be many more homeless before too long.

Governments to-day are quite willing to tax you right out of your home.

Would your priority be the homeless of the City or the Winter Games, that was a loaded question and should not have been asked. I would hope P.G. has more going for it than homelessness and it should not be made into a election issue, I liked the answer Roy gave his priority is THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.

It’s all part of an orchestrated attack on private property and private property rights. To deprive the public, as individuals, of those rights, such as they currently (still) exist, and take them back further into the name and greater control of the State.

When the government, and those who control it through their control of ‘finance’, (and that is certainly NOT us, since the order in which things are done is NOT ‘tax and spend’, as many are led to believe, but rather ‘BORROW, spend and then tax’ ~ and what is ‘borrowed’ is NOT created FIRST by me and thee, nor is it, for its largest part, borrowed FIRST from us ~ a relatively small supra-national clique has virtual monopoly control over the creation of all financial credit, and who will receive it, and under what terms, and ALSO whether or not if it will be able to be redeemed. And this clique prefers to exercise its will on all through a centralised authority ~ a government. Rather than through what is infinitely more difficult for it to deal with, the individual private homeowner, who still does have some control over his property taxes. Not much, not as much as he should have, but far more than he’d have if their place were taken by rents.

Vancouver had this red tent campaign for the homeless in 2010. 400 homeless in PG can be easily accommodated in 200 containers (one for 2) with doors and windows installed with minimal cost of 1000$ for each container. You can add to it several community toilet/shower and kitchens as in a hostel or camp.

200*1000=200,000$ for containers. Add $50,000 for each of 40 community toilet/shower/kitchens and the bill is $2.2 Million and you can set it up on lands donated by the first nation people or the companies or the city. Where to set this homeless camp(s)? and divide them into how many camps are the two main questions. Somewhere on the other side of the river? near the airport?

This is the least the city can do to help them and revive the PG downtown for Olympics, considering more expensive council houses projects for the homeless in the UK and other countries.

For the fiftieth time…..the Olympics are not coming to Prince George.

You can’t make people live where you want them to. No matter what you build, where you build it some people will remain homeless.

Rome wasn’t built in one day. $2.2 Million divided by 40 camps is around 50,000$ per camp of 10 people. This hasn’t been tried in PG and it can be tried for a lpw budget of 50,000$ per mini camp and gradually expanded if successful and its weaknesses corrected. You can house first those who have stayed drug free for a while to encourage them to clean up their act and have a point system for the waiting list which motivates them.

I will vote for any PG councilor or mayor who adopts the idea and makes it an election campaign.

Is homelessness an indicator of a problem of itself or is it a symptom of a deeper problem? How many of the homeless have untreated or under-treated mental health issues? How many of the prisoners have untreated or under-treated mental health issues?

Major studies continue to show that it less expensive to house and support the mentally disabled than to have repetitive treatments in emergency and that it is less expensive to treat mental health conditions in medical facilities than prisons.

Clearly a provincial issue with municipal implications. A continuation of current practice (to deny, to under serve, to ignore) can only be classified as penny-wise, dollar-foolish.

We will vote for any councillor who has the GUTS not to make homelessness an election issue. DO NOT mix people with mental issues that can’t be helped ,with people that have wasted their lives and so nothing to help themselves.

If there is a will to end homelessness in the city council, then there is a way to do it. I recently talked with a PG old-timer who is still living near downtown and he was complaining that his family cannot walk the area the way they used to in the past and the problem has expanded from the core. And he was a Harper conservative supporter.

We need a change in the city hall.

Prof.. No there is not. Some people want to be homeless. You can’t force them into shelters or homes. Just like you can’t make anyone get help for mental issues if they don’t, themselves, feel they need it. You can only help those that want help no matter how good your intensions are.

Basically…..how many homeless people vote ?

BC government is spending annually more than 10 Million Dollars in UNBC for (600-700) students that do not exist. If with 2 Million Dollars we can cut homelessness in PG even by half, it is a big achievement and it is worth investigating it. Considering that a pilot project could cost around 50K Dollars.

Reduce homelessness and reduce crime and reduce murder. Don’t forget that PG in on the Highway of tears. How many people in PG will benefit from reducing homelessness and reducing crime?

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