They should set-up on Ferry anywhere from the cloverleaf at the bridge to Hwy 16 … anytime of the day…maybe send a few of the B-trains back to the main Hwy instead of using a shortcut through a residential area .

I wish they would set one up at the east end of first avenue. If you are trying to get out from lower Patricia blvd. the traffic is usually going so fast that I have seen people nearly get hit there. The speed limit is 50 until you get to the bridge and then it is 70 but I would guess most of the traffic is doing at least 80 and sometimes more.

The speed limit is 50km/h throughout the entire city, unless posted otherwise. On highways outside of the city boundaries the speed limit is 70km/h unless posted otherwise.

This also applies to BC Transit vehicles, school buses and City of Prince George vehicles, although there is little evidence that more than just the odd one of these is aware of speed limits.

Good work. Hopefully they will continue in other area’s and eventually slow down some of these drivers.

Good place to start, would be the Hart Highway, and 97 South to the BC Rail Industrial Park.

You raise a good point PrinceGeorge; however, the provincial websites state that the default speed limit on highways is 80 km. Your base point that speeding is a common occurrence is still accurate. Including our “professional” drivers.

Which begs the question. If the police can hand out $6,000 – $10,000 of revenue producing tickets on a one day targeted enforcement period, why don’t they enforce the law more often? Like every day?

The Hart Highway 500 racers will be posting soon about the “flow of traffic” and “stay right to pass”. However, speeding is still one of the primary three factors in accidents, injury and death on our roads. Consistent enforcement is one of the few proven strategies to change the driving culture of the dangerous offenders. Including those you insist driving 10-20 k over the speed limit on the Hart or 1st Avenue.

The Hart Highway 500 racers will be posting soon about the “flow of traffic” and “stay right to pass”.

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So you want them to enforce the speed limit but not the “Keep Right” regulation? Am I reading that correctly?

On any given day they’d made a lot more money off the left lane hogs then they would off the speeders.

Perhaps a lot of the speed limits are too low?? Most of them are fine in the winter, but really in summer the vast majority of drivers are exceeding the legal limits. The drivers that are following the speed limits then become road hazards because they are not keeping up with the flow of traffic.

Is the only cure to ticket those exceeding the speed limits??

Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 @ 11:41 AM by duffer

I wish they would set one up at the east end of first avenue. If you are trying to get out from lower Patricia blvd. the traffic is usually going so fast that I have seen people nearly get hit there. The speed limit is 50 until you get to the bridge and then it is 70 but I would guess most of the traffic is doing at least 80 and sometimes more.

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It’s gotten to the point that I just turn left on to 2nd, up to Victoria then over to first to catch the light instead of trying to turn left on to first.

I still believe that 50 is too low for 1st avenue though. Should be 60 at the minimum. Just needs a light or two.

Perhaps the signs should be changed to **Left lane for speeding only. Tickets issued at random. Those in compliance with the law keep right**

Hi Axman, good to see you on the blog. I am in favor of the consistent enforcement of ALL traffic laws. If there is evidence-based documentation that changing the traffic laws will improve safety, then the laws should be changed. If the evidence can support that raising the speed limits will improve safety, then raise them. I understand that everybody driving at close to the same speed will reduce the potential for accidents and conflict on the road. What I cannot accept is the confusion created by the conflicts that occur when law abiding, speed limit abiding motorists are put at risk by those drivers that choose to interpret the laws in their own way and try to justify driving 10 to 20 k over the posted maximum.

And to save you looking through past posts, I don’t recall ever disputing the “Stay Right To Pass” provision. However, I am pretty confident that if ALL of the drivers on the Hart Highway drove at or under the posted speed limit, the Stay Right to Pass discussion would be a lot more muted.

“Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 @ 11:11 AM by Saywho
They should set-up on Ferry anywhere from the cloverleaf at the bridge to Hwy 16 … anytime of the day…maybe send a few of the B-trains back to the main Hwy instead of using a shortcut through a residential area .”
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Ferry is a main thoroughfare, (not a shortcut) and is open to all traffic. Always has been. To restrict traffic there would create havoc at 16 and 97.

Agree fully anotherside. In keeping with keep right to pass, I keep right except to pass, I even do about 8 km over the limit if traffic flow allows, but that section after the John Hart Bridge to the turnoff by the Chevron, I still get tailgated by the people who plan on turning right up ahead, and the inside lane is so full of vehicles they can’t get anywhere in it, so their choice is to see if they can maybe get me to go even faster, so they can get home to their beer, pizza, tv, or macrame, a few minutes faster. So, I slow down to the speed limit, until they figure it out. And if they don’t figure it out, I’d rather they hit me from behind at 60 km than 70 km. But it would be nice of the RCMP could keep an eye out for them and maybe explain that in the right lane, people are allowed to actually go slower than the speed limit – that’s why it’s there.

But as for what the RCMP did yesterday, two days from now it’ll be back to normal, because everyone knows, they just do this sporadically and then go back to their desks. We really need a traffic only unit, that goes at it hard 7 days a week and all over the city before people will begin to be concerned about enforcement. They sure don’t give a crap about safety.

Speeders on the Hart (in the left lane) must realize that those who use the right lane (regular slow lane) sometimes need to move to the left lane as they intend to take an upcoming left turn exit lane! Fortunately all the speeders, all of them all the time are very polite and full of courtesy and allow this to happen! If they stick the left middle finger out of the window it is pure coincidence as they are only checking the outside air temperature!

Awesome comments PrinceGeorge!! It is rather difficult to stay in the right lane when you need to make a left turn off the Hart Highway!

So you want them to enforce the speed limit but not the “Keep Right” regulation? Am I reading that correctly? On any given day they’d made a lot more money off the left lane hogs then they would off the speeders.

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Speeding has the potential to cause serious trauma. Driving in the left lane might get a person a single digit salute from the likes of yourself, but not much else.

Any other questions? I didn’t think so.

“If there is evidence-based documentation that changing the traffic laws will improve safety, then the laws should be changed.”

“Speeding has the potential to cause serious trauma. Driving in the left lane might get a person a single digit salute from the likes of yourself, but not much else. ”

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Lots of interesting reading here about speeding and the myths surrounding it: http://www.sense.bc.ca/

I’m of the belief that there are too many people driving who shouldn’t be. We need to make it a lot tougher to get and to keep a license.

PS. I don’t give the finger to people regardless of how annoying their driving behavior is. There are way too many crazies out there and I plan on living for a few more years.

It takes ten minutes to drive across PG and you have all these driver complaints Better not use #1 highway that runs through the Fraser Valley to the big apple. You would probably have a coronary.

This bull, “keep right except to pass” is strictly for bad drivers. So your in the right lane at a traffic light so what about the guy that wants to make a right turn and your just sitting there blocking his maneuver.

Rules of the road are,” left lane is the through lane right lane is the off on lane”. Try and remember it as your taking that big trip from the Hart to Superstore.

Just a lite shower in Abby to day.
Cheers

Left lane is for passing. I understand you may need to eventually make a left turn, but if that left turn is 4kms up the highway, stay right until you need to be in the left lane…

Just a reminder to everyone. Keep right except to pass is only in effect in signed areas.

On 5th, there is no “passing” lane. on ospika there is no “passing” lane.

Obviously I know people are talking about heading to the Hart, which is signed as keep right to expect to pass. Although this is true, please remember, you are never allowed to exceed the posted speed limit, not even to pass. The passing lane is for when there are vehicles who are not, or are incapable of doing the speed limit.

have a good day!

Excellent work folks, keep the pressure on!
NO distracted driving charges? Amazing!
But, the article says “they issued nine arrest warrants”. Did they arrest nine people and if so, what for? JP’s issue warrants.

Last post for me, I don’t want to overstay my welcome.

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“Rules of the road are,” left lane is the through lane right lane is the off on lane”. Try and remember it as your taking that big trip from the Hart to Superstore. ”
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The “Keep Right Except To Pass” regulation actually reads, “Vehicles must be driven in the right hand lane except when legally passing and overtaking other vehicles.”

And yes, as phje points out, the regulations are only in effect where signs are posted. Like on the Hart from Chief Lake Road to the John Hart Bridge.

Bet the vast majority of tickets on this so called “speedway” were for maybe 10km/h or so over the limit. More a ‘revenue’ issue than a ‘public safety’ one.

When I saw “nailed”
I thought of something different.

I have repeatedly reported the excessive number of speeders coming from the north end of Dawson Road through the Glenview Elementary School zone with the result that the police totally ignore the problem and my request for enforcement.
As with so many other illegal human activities, someone has to die before the police and governments take action. Will that be the death of a young child on Dawson Road?

10 Km over the limit will only get you a ticket if there’s:
(a) a defect on your vehicle
(b) you are driving erratically.
What draws police attention to a vehicle is a tail light, headlight out,
and the way the person is driving, that’s routine.

If the traffic in the right lane is doing the speed limit then they should not be getting passed, if they are the ones in the left lane are speeding, aka breaking the law. If you are in such a rush you need to speed then don’t complain to the officer that pulls you over, happily take your ticket and thank the officer for keeping you and others around you safe. It’s what the police are paid to do.

They should hang out on Tabor blvd
I am sure they can double the take in probbly half the time…..
the lights at 5th seem to be the signal the drag racers use to start their races.

That’s ironic, bcracer!!

my racing was on PGARA, not the street

funny, this morning as I turned onto Ospika, I thought uh huh, soon they will be calling this the Ospika 500. I had no idea that the police had held a blitz on it the day before.
I did notice fewer than usual speeders on it though.
With the stats from it, it makes one wonder just how many illegal drivers there are out there? Its a very different world now than the one I grew up in.

How many accidents are on the hart because of people going 10km or 20km over the speed limit.

I feel the speed limit should be higher anyway.

But, where are the accidents? Where are the problem areas? Deal with them first. 80% of the problems are generated at 20% of the problem areas. (approximately)Focus on the problem areas.

It’s Oct. 30th and month end. Time to generate some revenue?

It’s fine that they’re ticketing speeders but why not people who don’t stop for pedestrians. Four killed in the last month!!! Have a plainclothes cross the street all day and fine all those who do not stop. Speeding may or may not cause death or serious injury but hitting a pedestrian always will.

The crashes are mostly around intersections and aren’t a result of speeding BYOB. They are a result of drivers not paying attention to driving.

Jim13136: I believe speed limits are set at safe limits, they have very definite logic behind them. When we have so many accidents as we do, its clear that a lot of people can’t even handle those speeds, for what ever reason.
I think raising the limits would only increase the frequency and severity of accidents. Insurance rates would go up.
I really do wish though that ICBC would look at the EDRs in most vehicles involved in serious accidents and settle the claim according to results displayed therein.
For example, if the EDR records a higher than the speed limit at an accident, or a higher than weather and road conditions dictate, the payout would be reduced accordingly, on a scale.
It would also wake up a lot of people who think that they can drive any way they choose, when it came time to settle a claim, especially on the higher cost vehicles.