“Yes” Side Launched in Fluoridation Referendum
Prince George, B.C.- On November 15th, voters in Prince George will not only be selecting a Mayor, Council and School Trustees, they will be asked if they wish the City to continue adding fluoride to the City’s water supply.
While those who oppose the practice have been speaking up over the past few weeks , those who support the continuation of fluoridation have formed a coalition of health professionals asking voters to say “yes”.
Calling itself “Health for All” the group includes local dentists, health professionals, educators, professional associations, and non-profit groups.
“It is known that the rate of tooth decay and oral health problems are greater in communities without water fluoridation, that is why it is important to continue the fluoridation practice,” said Dr. Richard Wilczek, coalition co-chair and local dentist. “This is about doing what is right for the most vulnerable populations in the City of Prince George for a reasonable rate.”
The annual cost to add fluoride to the water is about $56 thousand dollars.
“It costs less than a dollar a year per resident to continue this important practice, seen as one of the top ten public health initiatives in the 20th century by the World Health Organization,” said Margit Strobl, coalition co-chair and educator. “There are people in the community that cannot afford access to dental care; therefore it is imperative we help them care for their teeth in other ways. Continuing water fluoridation is a key way we can help.”
The coalition says there are several benefits to fluoridation, and points to information that low income populations “have barriers to accessing dental care and fluoridation reduces the need for dental treatment costs by helping prevent tooth decay”. The information also states “Children with untreated tooth decay often experience pain, infection and related health and developmental problems” and that dental care can be out of the financial reach for some families.
In a release issued this afternoon, the Coalition notes the amount spent on fluoridation can save dollars down the road ” Residents of Prince George have a choice of spending $56,100 a year which is less than a dollar per resident on fluoridation to prevent disease, or spend an extra $2.1 million per year; about $38 per resident to treat disease. Fluoridation of the water system theoretically saves the health care system over $2 million a year and prevents disease.”
Comments
Show us the science! Science has shown it does not help low income families.
Fluoride is a topical medication not an ingested one. The fact that fluoride toothpate has a warning printed right on the tube to monitor young children to ensure that they do not swallow the toothpaste speaks volumes.
They are completely ignoring one of the core values in prescribing medicine “Informed Consent” and the toxic side effects of ingesting fluoride.
No government has the right to mass medicate the population.
Vote early and often to discontinue this 1950’s mindset!
Why is there even a yes side to this issue? If you want fluoride, go out and buy it yourself.
It is a straightforward David versus Goliath issue!
Little David wants to have respect for his personal freedom of choice and the right to choose (or refuse!) this chemical and he does not wish to ingest an uncontrolled amount of a so-called medicine injected into his tap water! He knows that it is unethical.
Giant Goliath wants to have his own way and wants to cram this industrial wood preservation stuff down David’s throat no matter what.
David votes NO!
Where on earth do these pro-drinkers get their research? If “…Fluoridation of the water system theoretically saves the health care system over $2 million a year and prevents disease.” …Vancouver and the rest of B.C.’s 97% without fluoridation must have cost $trillions by now!
axman, it’s an income issue. It’s to help those who can’t go out and buy it. And, if we help stop tooth decay, it’s less of a burden on the social services down the road.
I look at this in this way… The medical professionals are in favor? I’m in favor. If an accountant suggests I do something for tax benefit, I do. If a lawyer gives me legal advice, I take it. And if a dentist is in favor of fluoride, I’ll trust them.
Why is there even a NO side to this, if you don’t want fluoride in your go buy yourself bottled water.
I am confused by this group, by my calculations says there must be a crissis in dental surguries in BC. And $168 million in extra dental surgeries. I want them to clarify. They say it would cost $2.1 million if we stop.
Facts 97% of BC in NOT fluoridated.
There are 4.61 million people in BC
Not all of pg is fluoridated only about 56,000.
So by their logic in the rest of the province there must be $168,000,000 extra dental surgeries because of the lack of fluoride in their water.
Either we are being lied to or there is a crisis in BC, which is it.
I like to drink WATER, not water and fluoride ….just PLAIN WATER. I should be able to do that!
Bottled water has fluoride in it too. A co-worker showed me that yesterday because I thought the same thing, just drink bottled water if you don’t want it.
Question, how many people drink from the tap, most homes have water dispensers and bottled water don’t think its loaded with fluoride. Me thinks the suppliers don’t want to see a snow ball effect so stop the concept in its tracks. Whatever should be a persons choice.
Well said Sunnyday2
We should be able to decide “brush my teeth today” or “go without brushing today”, but I should never have to ingest something other than water with naturally occurring minerals. You want fluoride, buy freaking tooth paste. Worried about low income families buy them tooth paste, but the public is entitled to clean “water” with nothing added other than “water and chlorine” from the municipal tap.
Childhood tooth decay (Primary Teeth)is directly linked to prenatal diet (what mom eats before the child is born)and the diet the child is raised on during the developmental stages of life (early childhood). I don’t have the science fact sheet, but it is easy to search it on the interweeb. So feed them (children) properly and the dental issues will become less an issue.
I like to breathe clean air not air with all the tiny particles Canfor puts in it. I should be able to do that as well. :)
“The medical professionals are in favor? I’m in favor” .. don’t know how old you are, but they also pushed tobacco use back in the 50s and 60s as a good way to relax from stress. Well, we all know how that went right?
So, just because someone has a few letters after their name doesn’t convince me they are above reproach and know all there is to know. The fact is, this is something added to a perfectly good product without my consent. I wouldn’t be surprised if he chlorine is unnecessary as well given the source of our water.
“So, just because someone has a few letters after their name doesn’t convince me they are above reproach and know all there is to know. The fact is, this is something added to a perfectly good product without my consent. I wouldn’t be surprised if he chlorine is unnecessary as well given the source of our water.”
Sure, they were wrong, however, there wasn’t the research and knowledge we have available today. Things change. Get over it
Don’t forget that these so called smart people at Northern Health think it is okay for a nurse with HIV to administer shots into people. Now a six year girl has to go through multiple tests to see if she is HIV positive. Great way to protect the public Northern Health!
My dentist disagrees, along with many others that force feeding us fluoride is wrong. Topical treatment is best and a CDC report confirms it. Let’s not forget they are NOT putting medical grade fluoride in our water they are putting an industrial waste byproduct in our water. According to a MSDS from the Cities own website the industrial waste they are putting in our water my contain mercury and other impurities.
They can’t stop the process fast enough as far as I’m concerned.
“axman, it’s an income issue. If an accountant suggests I do something for tax benefit, I do.”
Follow the money! axman, the tax benefits from fluoridation goes to the dentists, not those who cannot afford a dentist. According to City of PG FOI information, dentists who work in fluoridated Cities make more money than in non-fluoridated Cities, so they have a strong incentive to support fluoridation.
If fluoridation worked, then after 60 years of PG forced fluoridation why do so many people have so many cavities, especially when other non-fluoridated Cities in BC have the same level or fewer cavities without fluoridation?
NH confirmed earlier this year they were already spending an additional $1.2 to $2 million dollars on dental care in one of the last five fluoridate Cities in BC, Prince George, out of the $3 million dental care dollars the whole province spends. If City of PG fluoridation works, why are they already spending close to 2 million extra dollars?
“axman, if a lawyer gives me legal advice, I take it.” Wouldn’t you want to confirm the free legal advice you were getting was correct? After all, if it is too good to be true, it is probably not true!
How many dentists do you know who are trained to prescribe you drink hazardous waste?
Fluoridation and topical dental fluorides are very different activities with topical fluoride working well for many people’s teeth and fluoridation harming many people’s bodies. Check the material safety data sheet from Clear Tech, the current City of PG supplier, the last page states: “ClearTech Industries Inc. and its associated companies require, as a condition of sale, that you forward the attached Material Safety Data Sheet(s) to all affected employees, customers, and end-users.” They do this so you can see how toxic the hazardous waste you are drinking is. Google ClearTech material safety data sheet hydrofluorosilicic acid.
Have you ever received a copy of that legal advice from the City that you paid for with your Tax savings?
Should say my dentist agrees! I would edit if I could.
How come the “no” side can post stop sign replicas all over the highway but if you post a sign to slow people down for children then the bylaw officers attack?
I know a great way to prevent teens having babies – just put birth control in our drinking water. The people that want to have babies will have to pay extra for bottle water and hope that there is not birth control in the water. The biggest problem with this is the amount of water a person drinks, so the teen that drinks pop will not get the right dosage and still have babies.
I went to buy bottle water and it has fluoride in it as it is City water that they put through filters, etc. and I was told nothing can take the fluoride out of the water once the City puts it in.
Livesherelongtime:” Either we are being lied to or there is a crisis in BC, which is it.”
There is no dental crisis in BC! That should answer your question.
Well PrinceGeorge or Dave Fuller, whichever name you are gong by today, we know you sell fluoride in your store. Why don’t you just admit that you want more business>
“Calling itself “Health for All” the group includes local dentists, health professionals, educators, professional associations, and non-profit groups.”
So are all local PG dentists, all health professionals, all educators and all professional associations and all non-profit groups really, 100% supporting fluoridation as stated?
Or Is it possible this is false advertising, already?
Just curious as most parents, once they find out their choice to say no to medicating their children who are being forced to drink toxic hazardous waste, without receiving the parents informed consent, fluoridation being forced on them by the City and “all professionals” they seem to be pretty upset, angry and disgusted. Is democracy and Charter Rights including the Rule of Law, some things that don’t apply to PG residents?
Has anyone of those health professionals been able to confirm fluoridation chemicals are actually an approved medication, that they are qualified to prescribe, without asking the patients? All 70,000 plus patients… or the 65% or so who are being fluoridated., I had thought we had a medical crisis and there still was not enough Dr.’s to care for all residents.
Anyone talk to the pets, dogs, cats, horses and asked them if they were OK being fluoridated? Do the Vets count as Health Professionals too? Are all of them in favor of fluoridation?
“Fluoride Free PG” you seem pretty steadfast in your beliefs, but you’re quite wrong about this issue. It is everyone’s right to remain ignorant of the facts and to try and obfuscate the issue to bolster their own position, but it’s sad.
Not sure what you’re going off about in terms of the membership of the group. Nowhere that I can see have they claimed that 100% of PG dentists, health professionals, educators, professional associations and all nonprofit groups support their cause 100%. Where do you see that?
I don’t know what “most” parents you’ve come in contact with are going on about, but that’s not been my experience. I have noticed though, whether there be a correlation or not, that the less educated a person is the more they seem to buy into this hysteria about fluoride spread by a few zealots.
The whole analogy about medicating without permission is just nonsense. The truth is that no matter how hard you tried, you couldn’t avoid getting fluoride in your system, because it’s so abundant on Earth. It’s in your food, it’s in the water (yes, naturally occurring fluoride in your water!!!! who you going to blame for that?) We’ve been fortifying human food and drink with essential vitamins and minerals for a century. Looked at a carton of milk lately? Says vitamin A & D added. How about the folic acid they put in your bread, I’ll bet you’re all up in arms about that. Or how about the iodine they put in salt. How long have you been stopping your feet about that one?
If you actually took some time to do some really research, instead of reading dubious claims on the internet, written by people who’re trying to sell you something like filtered water, etc.., you might come to realize that not only is the therapeutic addition of fluoride to our drinking water NOT dangerous, it’s very beneficial. Like I said though, it’s everyone’s right to educate themselves or not.
Cheers.
Well, lets see. The towns I lived in never had flouride in their water, I’ve still got my teeth. There’s flouride in toothpaste. No, I don’t want it and I don’t want any government telling me I have to do something that may be harmful to me. And any additive our good city government wants me to take is harmful to our bodies.
No thanks.
@Sparrow, you are sadly mistaken, there is medication in foods all around us these days. Do a little research. Check out what is added to your milk for starters.
@FluorideFreePG crazy how you can distort numbers like that, read the article and understand what hyou are reading – may be the reason you have a problem with fluoride, you just can’t understand what you are reading
@livesherelongtime again skew the facts. Most people that fluoride is a target of do not go to the dentist or cannot afford it. Fluoride in water saves about 38 dollars a year per person but if this person doesn’t go to the dentist the dollars just pile up until you end up getting dentures. If it saves their natural teeth for an extra 5-10-15 years is that not a good thing? How much do you spend at the dentist a year, bet it is more than 38 dollars? This amount is not all the money saved at a dentist office, just the extra that would be saved IF/WHEN they went to the dentist. Multiply what you spend annually by the population of BC and see what number you get.
@NoWay your hot dog ‘may contain’ lips and arse holes too. Sodium Fluoride in toothpaste and the dentists office is also an industrial waste
Some bottled water has no fluoride in it. I think it is Nestle’s, but I am not really sure. Maybe it is Pure Water. Anyway, there is one and that is nice to know. But, I shouldn’t have to buy my water.
slinky
When the product use line on the MSDS is “Water fluoridation and wood preservation” I for one do not want someone putting that in the drinking water.
What are the properties of this chemical that make it suitable to use as a wood preservative? School playgrounds all over the city have been condemed because they contain a wood preservative that must have been thought safe for kids to crawl over when the things were built. The industrial grade stuff they are injecting into the water also contains arsenic, the same chemical in the condemed playground structures.
In addition the MSDS says that information on its affects on fetal development and mutations is “not available” Maybe not a big issue on the wood preservative side but a completely different story for something that is ingested on a daily basis especially given the fact that it is shown to be a neurotoxin that does harm fetal development in recent studies.
When shopping for toothpaste, if I read on the package that it “Whitens, Brightens and Prevents the Sundeck From Rotting” it is going back on the shelf as I look further down the aisle.
There are no ‘sides’ to this debate. Only science vs. ideology.
There are no credible scientific organizations in the world that do not support water fluoridation.
It is supported by:
Health Canada
The World Health Organization
The Centers for Disease Control
The American Medical Association
Northern Health
And many more…
Do your research on credible medical websites, not dedicated anti-fluoride websites.
There is no credible scientific evidence that fluoride at approved levels causes harm, and there is decades of evidence of the benefits.
I choose to not have Fluoride added to our city water supply. I don’t need to argue about it, or justify why I feel the way I do. And, it’s not about cost. And, It’s not about what the Dentists or Doctors think. It’s about what I think. And if I am given an opportunity to say what I think, it’s no thanks to mass fluoridation of our water supply.
I don’t need to convince anyone else. Why do those who differ in opinion feel the need to convince me?
@sunnyday the reference to “bottled water” above was for filtered water put in large bottles for your cooler. The only method that removes fluoride from the water is reverse osmosis.
Hey Duffer
that wasn’t Dave Fuller, I am, and NO we don’t sell any fluoride drops or actually anything fluoride at Ave Maria so we are not making anything from backing the No Fluoride side. We are actually just putting our money in what we believe in which is a question of Ethics. We don’t believe that Northern Health or the City or a few dentists should be medicating us and using tax money to do it!
dave
Goes for everyone maybe BYOB
Sparrow your milk has an additive in it that has its uses as a rat poison. Many products have other uses, for instance the former is called vitamin D
Science without ethics is not worth the effort put into it. Respect for individual rights and freedoms is enshrined in our constitution and we expect no less. Mass medication is unethical and disrespectful. Just because something is supported by science does not mean that individual rights must be sacrificed. Fluoride can be obtained by other means than by forced ingestion.
Comparing an essential nutrient to fluoridating the water is asinine! Comparing medical grade and natural occurring fluoride to an industrial grade byproduct is also asinine! JB, WHO, CDC agree that topical fluoride treatments are the best way to prevent tooth decay where Injesting it has little or no effect at all. So stop polluting the water.
Vitamine D is essential for life, our bodies produce it when we expose ourselves to sunlight. Fluoride is not essential to life
You should also go read those studies instead of embarrassing yourself like Todd Whitcomb did the other day at the debate.
If he truely cared about the subject he should of been better prepared.
Slinky: Not sure what numbers you’re suggesting are distorted?
Statistics Canada states; for Prince George, the population as counted in 2011 is 71, 974 people. They also identify children under 18 years old, 22, 205 including a lot of other good credible and undistorted numbers. Those 22, 205 children are the children who have no choice regarding forced fluoridation, except to drink gallons (liters) of fluoridated water including swimming and bathing in the stuff.
The City of Prince George is not 100 % fluoridated according to City FOI documents. Somewhere between 60 and 85% of the City is fluoridated if you can believe the City FOI documentation. 65% is a reasonable and low estimate based on their FOI documentation. More people may be negatively impacted such as visitors.
My QUESTION, adjusted for your clarification; What percentage of the “Health for All” group includes ALL City professionals listed? The quote from the article indicates: “the group includes local dentists, health professionals, educators, professional associations, and non-profit groups.” Please note the context of the quote is plural, meaning more than one of each up to and including 100% of those identified. The “Health for All” group may only be two people!
Their statement is confusing to some people, intentionally misleading them to believe everyone identified is doing it, so it must be good. That’s called “herd mentality”. And right now the “herd” are acting like Lemmings by drinking and consuming fluoridated water, forcibly added to PG City water, unethically and without informed consent. (With apologies to those respectful Lemmings who are able to think for themselves.)
The money numbers come from Brenda Matson with Northern Health in her articles in the Free Press and on Opinion 250. “Every year, $1.8 to 2 million in hospital fees is spent on Northern Health residents for the treatment of tooth decay in hospital.” April 4, 2014.
The 3 million was provided in a report on Global TV regarding dental month activities in the province.
So if those numbers are wrong, why did they provide them? If 60 years of fluoridation was working, why are NH resident’s spending an additional $1.8 to 2.0 million per year?
Time for a forensic audit of NH spending practices!
About time they spoke up on this issue. Wish they had started this dialogue earlier. (However, maybe injesting fluoride causes the user to develop conspirancy theoriosis, as there certainly seems to be a bunch of them here)
Let’s see about my distorted numbers. They come from your. Article and readily available statistic from government sites. Some one in grade 7 can easily do the math but I will make it simpler.
$38 savings per person in the by this Article.
4.61 million people in BC
97% of BC is fluoride free let’s be specific here they do not add fluoride to their water.
Please explain the distortion or lie in my numbers!!!
So grade 4 or 5 math
.97% x 4,610,000 x $38 = you calculate
By your words the extra cost. Why are we NOT being told of a dental crisis in BC. It is simple. There isn’t one. Please feel free to do the calculation.
If fluoride is so good, why can’t they just slowly pour it in the river to get rid of it? Why do they have to take major precautions when handling it? Why do we have to wear protective equipment when handling vitamin D? Oh, messed up you can hold vitamin D in you bare hand. PLEASE don’t do that with the fluoride we put in our water.
It is NOT Medical grade, even then I would not recommend it, neither would any medical professional.
Logged me out, not worth rewriting. Couldn’t really care less suffice as to say
For you NoWay I don’t buy it. Google bread and mass medication and see how close your arguments are to theirs. All additives have to come from somewhere, we don;t get vitamin D from sending a shuttle to the sun, the additive comes from an industrial process, same as the folic acid added to bread, same as,,,
For you LiveHereLongTime BC households spend 300 on average for dental services per year in 2002, I would imagine that number has grown. Multiply that by 1,764,635 households in BC. Like before, the savings mostly come in those who cannot afford or do not get dental services who have to be treated later in life by dental surgeries in hospitals. Spending the dollar now saves money over the long term. Your medical grade is hogwash – it is still a industrial waste product with a fancy bow. Vitamin D additive is also used to kill rats, dose is everything. can you pour a cup of water in your hand?
Where are the lcoal medical and dental professionals coming out against water fluoridation?
“The annual cost to add fluoride to the water is about $56 thousand dollars.”
Needless to say, that number is wrong. The last number obtained from Bates was for 70,000 dollars per year, just for the industrial waste chemical purchased from ClearTec. The annual cost is much greater than that as maintenance costs and labour costs must be added, plus the annual cost of paying off the borrowed money to install the equipment in the first place, plus the expense of taking regular water samples and sending them to a lab in Vancouver for analysis. Eventually the rubber lined tanks and some piping will have to be replaced. In fact some municipalities in Canada have quietly discontinued artificial water fluoridation as it became prohibitively expensive to replace broken down equipment.
A more realistic total annual cost would be in the neighbourhood of between 200 to 300 thousand dollars.
All Canadian Forces Bases in Canada have requested non-fluoridated tap water from the municipalities where they are located and they are all now doing just fine without it!
If it is healthy enough for our military it should be healthy enough for us!
I remember back in the 50’s the same wackos as above were let out of the nuthouse to protest fluoridation except then it was a communist plot to poison us all. Guess it didn’t work… Well, maybe it did on reading some of the comments on here.
PG: “All Canadian Forces Bases in Canada have requested non-fluoridated tap water from the municipalities where they are located”
Site your source, please.
OMG Slinky you don’t know that humans produced their own vitamin D when our skin is exposed to the sun? Face palm!
Vitamin D is essential for life fluoride is not!
This is what the city of PG is putting in our water.
Watch the videos!
Hydrofluorosilicic Acid
Here is the link to the Fluoride Information Session held in PG Oct 18/14
Fluoride Information Session
After reading a number of the comments on this board I notice that the same anti fluoridation arguments keep being raised over and over. Frankly, I find the arguments ill-informed and off base.
1) Putting Fluoride in the water is Mass Medication which people didn’t consent to.
So what? Peer reviewed scientific research has demonstrably shown that having therapeutic levels (extremely small ppm) has a number of dental health benefits. We also drink vitamin enriched milk, eat vitamin and mineral enriched bread and eat fruits and vegetables that have undergone decades of selective breeding practices. It’s part of the reason you don’t see people running around with diseases that were caused by vitamin deficiencies anymore. We also use chlorine in our water supply to kill bacteria and viruses that could potentially kill us as well. We do this because there is evidence that there are benefits to doing so.
Unless you distill the water you drink. You aren’t drinking PURE water to begin with. It contains minerals and particulates. Even going through municipal cleaning system not everything is cleaned out of the water we drink. It’s the same with well water as well.
You are free not to drink municipal water, you are free to live in an area that does not fluoridate your water and are free move to a rural area and sink a well. No one is forcing the water down your throat.
Using the same logic of this argument then you should be free not to follow laws because you didn’t sign a consent form, free not to pay taxes and the arguments could go on.
2) Fluoride is poison, or is industrial waste and not medical grade etc etc
Water, oxygen, vitamins, minerals all can be poisonous and will kill you if consumed in sufficient quantities. In the proper quantities however-they are healthy, support health and human life. It is the same with Fluoride. If I consumed concentrated fluoride it would likely cause me serious health implications. But that IS NOT the way we have been ingesting it and is NOT the way we will be ingesting it. And linking the concentrate version of fluoride to how the population ACTUALLY consumes it is misleading and a typical straw man argument.
Water can be, in some circumstances considered a by-product and industrial waste depending on the industry you are in. We also use chlorine, a potentially toxic substance, to kill harmful bacteria and viruses that could kill and harm people. However, unlike its use it a chemical weapons context we use quantities only enough to kill off bacteria and viruses in our water supply.
You can do your own search, please! Let me just say that even if I would save you the trouble – you would not believe it!
From a reputable source:”Is it true that the fluoride used in Canada’s drinking water is a hazardous waste?
Response, This is false.”
The response is false! The fluoride (fluorosilicic acid) used in Prince George is delivered in a hazardous chemical transport tanker. It is sourced from industrial waste processes of the aluminum and /or fertilizer industry. It is NOT the pharmaceutical grade used by dentists for fluoride varnish treatments and often added to toothpaste. It is a low grade impure water scrubber waste.
Of course, this fact you would not believe either although I saw the recent delivery pictures.
The MSDS sheet identifies what it is and what it is used for – water fluoridation and wood preservative.
Check it out yourself!
BS on that Princegeorge water still needs to be tested. Employees still need to Work their jobs – don’t think for a moment there will be huge savings
PG: “You can do your own search, please! Let me just say that even if I would save you the trouble – you would not believe it!”
Probably because the source is some dedicated anti-fluoride website, which many know that most of the information presented is completely false at best and misleading at worst. I actually did do a search of your claim and found a lot of anti-fluoride websites in my search results and no credible sources. That’s why I asked you to site your source. If you’re not going to do that, please stop spreading mis-information.
PrinceGeorge
I’m glad you can read the MSDS sheet however it proves nothing.
The fluoride that is transported to Prince George would be transported in a concentrate form. Which in a CONCENTRATE form would be hazardous if consumed or handled improperly.
BUT.
That is not the way it is consumed.
And unfortunately your point about the fluoride being used as a wood preservative is irrelevant.
WATER is used in the manufacture of chemical weapons, poisons, industrial manufacturing and can cut through steel if appropriate pressure is used with it and we all drink the stuff.
lol, “yes” side. Get over it, if your so hurt about it why doesn’t the “yes” side buy us all some toothpaste?
You know what I want in my water? water.
“You know what I want in my water? water.”
Then lets remove the chlorine as well, and spread water-born disease. After-all, mass medicating is wrong. Chlorine is poison, I’d rather contract hep A, SARS and Typhoid.
Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:25 am
Canadian Forces Base Wainwright’s Base Commander, Major Dave Yurczyszyn updated the Council of the Town of Wainwright that the Base will be ceasing the addition of fluoride into the Town’s water system.
Yurczyszyn explained that the raw water brought into the water treatment plant and a natural average fluoride level of .37 milligrams per litre (mg/L).
“The water treatment plant adds fluorosilicic acid to maintain a fluoride level of .70 mg/L in the water it produces,” wrote Yurczyszyn. “Fluorosilicic acid is a hazardous material which creates concerns, not only for the health and safety of the staff dealing with it on a regular basis, but also for the environment should a spill ever occur.”
Due to both of those specifics, the water treatment plant will cease addition of fluorosilicic acid in the water it produces effective December 31, 2012.
“The water has a natural fluoride that is sufficient,” said Yurczyszyn. “The health hazard it creates in dealing with it is not worth it, because the health benefits are not that much.”
BTW, Prince George water also has natural fluoride levels ranging from 0.07 to 0.71 mg/L , depending on the well tested.
The vast majority of cities in BC which do NOT add fluoride gave levels of 0.1 mg/L or less.
Other Canadian Forces Bases have done the same thing.
Now I rest my case! BTW, accusing people of intentionally spreading mis-information is a serious charge.
I have more information to dispute and easily disarm most of your web sourced information, but what is the use?
Amazing the amount of time and effort spent on a non issue.
50 some odd years of fluoridated water, then someone finds something on a remote website, and discussion begins. If this amount of time and effort was spent trying to improve our emergency at the Regional Hospital, or provide better parking for hospital visitors, or getting a cleaner hospital, or to get better roads, and snow removal, then it would make some sense.
Those against fluoride have too much time on their hands, and are starving for an issue that requires nothing more than punching a keyboard.
Kinda harsh Palopu given the amount of time you have spent punching the keyboard flogging for the dead horse that is known as Quinn street transfer station.
Some of the latest research shows that there is a danger to health and well being ingesting this industrial waste so talking about 50 years ago is immaterial.
As for chlorine, it is added to make the water safe to drink. A UV system would accomplish the same thing but would not protect from it being re contaminated from bacteria in a storage tank further down the line or in the case of a water main break.
PG: “All Canadian Forces Bases in Canada have requested non-fluoridated tap water from the municipalities where they are located”
Please enlighten me, PG, how one person speaking at one CF Base at one town spouting anti-fluoride rhetoric equates to ‘all’ Canadian Forces as per your original quote?
All I ask is that you stick to the facts, and stay away from the obfuscation, ideology, emotion, and rhetoric.
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 @ 9:32 AM by PrinceGeorge
“All Canadian Forces Bases in Canada have requested non-fluoridated tap water from the municipalities where they are located and they are all now doing just fine without it!”
Quite the opposite by your quote from Wainwright. The DND (Department of National Defense) supplies water to the town and its base in Wainwright not the other way around. That is why they were telling the town they are ceasing adding fluoride but will keep adding lime. There is already a high concentration of fluoride in the water is one of the reasons, but you didn’t quote the rest of the article I wonder why? Because in the very next paragraph the info doesn’t bode well for your argument I suppose.
slinky
Your milk comparision is not valid as I have a choice in that matter. I can choose anything from raw unpasturized milk to almond milk,coconut milk, soy milk or even lactose free milk. If the city was the milkman I would have no choice in the matter and would get what they delivered whether I wanted it or not.
jb-Maybe the other bases are near communities that are not stuck in the 50’s and only add things to water that make it safe to drink and nothing more.
Not many places are deciding to add fluoride but lots are joining the majority and stopping the practice outright.
The “helping the poor” arguement is a load of crap, fluoride toothpaste is available on the shelves of every grocery and drug store in the city,providing them with more than enough topical fluoride. If they are not brushing and flossing then it would not matter if they drank a 100 gallons of water a day their teeth will rot and fall out.
Time to join the 97% of the province that has made the correct decision on this matter.
Interesting you bring up the 50’s, the anti-fluoridation forces have been around that long. Back then, they claimed it was a Communist plot, intended for mind control, etc.
If even one anti-fluoridation claim was proven right, the practice would be stopped worldwide immediately.
The problem is that in BC, ideology has trumped science. Hopefully we don’t fall into the same trap.
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