Friday Free For All – Feb. 6th, 2015
Thursday, February 5, 2015 @ 11:59 PM
One week to go before the big party hits Prince George as the final countdown is on for the Canada Winter Games.
We have gone from snow to potholes to snow in a matter of a few days, keeping City Crews hopping.
But today is all about you, as it is Friday after all, and that means it is time for the FRIDAY FREE FOR ALL.
You pick the topic, but please, obey the three simple rules.
Keep it clean
Keep it legal
No bullying.
L E T ‘E R R I P !!!
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LUV COSTCO GAS !!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Costco
EVERYONE…. have a GOOD weekend :)
Let the Games begin!
Then maybe it will stop snowing.
What has been your experience with WorkBC and the BC jobs plan?
Is it working?
What should the government be doing about employment?
Flu outbreak at UHNBC or Not?
While its true that isis is a political movement rather than a religious one, you would think that muslims, worldwide, would shouting from their minarets, condemning their acts and seperating themselves from their actions.
Their silence though, is percieved to be quiet complicit consent to these terrible deeds.
Leaders need to make a stand and state it. If there are any imams reading this, or even yet, ordinary muslims, why have we heard so little from you? Why are you not seperating yourselves from this barbarity in a meaningful way?
Is it that you quietly agree with it?
You do realise that many of their victims are fellow muslims, do you not? What are you going to say when they come after you? I suppose then, you’ll want nations’ soldiers to protect you too.
Well, you might get a surprise when all the muslims get seperated from all the rest of the populace because in your silence, you are letting it be known that you ARE complicit with their ways.
Is anyone keeping track of the city’s stated improvement in snow clearing this year?
Is there an actual improvement? Are there stats to prove it?
I haven’t been out much this winter to see for myself. I can only state on our street and a few others in the area.
I still see the right turn lane northbound off Westwood on to Massey heading downtown has been left with huge piles of snow. So that’s no improvement. Its been left like that for years.
I still see Westwood piled high with snow, even though it is a bus route and goes through a school zone.
They still leave about eight feet of the lane covered in snow on the east side of the street from Ferry to Pine Centre, so that’s no improvement either.
Maybe they are getting streets cleaned more quickly in most areas but their standards for real cleanup don’t seem to have changed at all.
Hopefully that will improve too.
I want it all
I want it all
And I want it now
Wish people driving the Hart would at least allow a little more than a car lengths distance between your vehicle and mine. Keep in mind sometimes people have to stop abruptly.(dumbasses)
Don’t know what the cost increase will be, if any but the city crew has been doing an eccelant job clearing North Kelly this winter. We see more trucks & graders in a week than we saw in a whole winter in the past. Also I notice there seems to be a lot more pride in the work the employees are preforming, keep it up & kudos to the employees
Don’t know what the cost increase will be, if any but the city crew has been doing an eccelant job clearing North Kelly this winter
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Odd isn’t it? We usually go weeks without seeing a plow but they’re actually doing their job this year.
Agree Kendoo, seems its now a priority, good to see.
I was driving northbound on the Hart earlier this week (at about 8:00 am on Monday -maybe it was Tuesday?) and some doofus was driving southbound in the northbound passing lane. A white van with no lights on.
Good thing none of the left lane hogs were out that morning. Could have been ugly.
Anotherside, didn’t get a chance to respond on the other post, not only there but PG City in the 70’s, LOL
Another beautiful weekend is upon us. Get out and enjoy the snow!
Take the time to help your elderly neighbor with his or her driveway.
Remember that time when Ben thought “Apps” was spelled “Aps?” Good times.
@Loki The way Shirley’s been plumping “Find my fit” on her twitter feed it must not be going very well, pretty much every single day she posts about it.
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2015 @ 7:44 AM by Fate
Remember that time when Ben thought “Apps” was spelled “Aps?” Good times
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Ah yes, the good old days! Back when bread was 5 cents a loaf and we bled gasoline.
Saw on the news last night that the CEO of Target will receive a compensation package in excess of the entire amount of compensation for all hourly Target employees across Canada. It’s appalling that Target can be that tone-deaf to how wrong this looks, but I guess it is in harmony with all of the other gaffs they’ve made.
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
I think the city is doing a much better job on snow removal this year. At least there seems to be more organization of the work load and I see the trucks more this year than last
Good work guys!
The one I question is YRB – they seem to have a shortage of sand?
Krusty: Big business and politics, where you don’t have to succeed to be well rewarded.
Have a fun and safe weekend everyone and our sincere condolences to all who have lost loved ones in this last while.
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2015 @ 8:05 AM by Krusty
Saw on the news last night that the CEO of Target will receive a compensation package in excess of the entire amount of compensation for all hourly Target employees across Canada. It’s appalling that Target can be that tone-deaf to how wrong this looks, but I guess it is in harmony with all of the other gaffs they’ve made.
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It’s all part of the employment contract both parties agreed to.
Target doesn’t care that 17000 Canadians are about to lose their jobs; they’re in business to make money and part of that requires shutting down the non performing stores.
Good morning to all my friends in George and others. Balmy windy day here in Abby. Guess you are all having lots of fun sliding down the hill at Carney and Massey Drive. That’s al I have this morning but I have pasted a clip from last Friday for you to chew on.
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2015 @ 1:54 PM by maverick 1965
1. I am sorry retired02, I did take the time to read all the post and I must say BCGrog painted a beautiful picture for the minds eye, very descriptive I was in awe how he captured the moment.
As for Sparrow I believe he is just expressing his dis-likes of the retched odors associated with living in a place such as Abby. However I was quiet shock with his comment of the chicken manure, but he did apologize because we all know accidents happen aside from J.B’s beliefs.
seamutt, well it sounds to me he was eager for an action packed weekend, he only stated the obvious. Or is Abby not the gang capital of Canada? I have heard ruthless things about the area in the past.
Maybe Retired 02 it has come time for you to leave the past and move on with your future. P.G. is a wonderful place to live, with 4hrs in either direct you find yourself in a whole new Eco-system. You surely couldn’t find that anywhere else in the world.
Cheers, well I meant maybe you like to tip a few back and find your demons lashing out at others.
Not sure if you noticed though, you have changed with your commenting, it does come across a little thuggish. Maybe Sparrow in his own way is trying to enlighten you.
You do seem to carry a deep seeded hatred for P.G. and the people who reside here.
As I said before Retired 02, we are here for you.
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Did I ever get a laugh out of your post Maverick.
What a pile of do do Only two answers . What kinder garden class do you children go too or are you getting old and senile.
See you next Friday.
Cheers
I read the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that doctors can now help the terminally ill end their lives.
Good news…
had I tried to extend the life of a cat or dog, or actually any animal, who was critical and dying I could have gone to jail for not putting them out of their suffering…
glad to know we finally rate the rights of animals.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/doctor-assisted-suicide-allowed-by-supreme-court-in-specific-cases-1.2947487?cmp=rss
Sorry I didn’t give you our temperature this morning that sits at 15c.
Cheers
Thank you the city outside workers. Doing a good job.
15c is probably true, and as I sit in my Abby office, the windows are rattling, and it has been raining pineapples all night!
Any comments on the Supreme Court of Canada’s unanimous decision to strike down the ban on providing doctor-assisted death? It only affects Quebec right now, but I expect other Provinces will soon act on the ruling. Personally, I believe it’s a victory for common sense and compassion.
I agree with you, akanemo. The ban on doctor-assisted suicide amounts to torture. People in great pain or dying an awful death have every right to a merciful end. It has always struck me as perverse that we refuse to grant people the compassion that we grant animals. It isn’t really that difficult to require clear evidence of the person’s desires so as to prevent abuse. Those who believe that their deity insists that they die a horrible death and that to avoid such a death is to commit the sin of despair are entitled to their beliefs, but not to impose them on the rest of us.
I saw an Order in Council signed by Minister Thomson that says no offense is committed if a guide allows his client to kill more animals than the guide has been allotted by the govt.
If we go over our limits it’s considered poaching……am I the only one that thinks there is something rotten going on here?
YRB Vanderhoof still continues to do a much superior road clearing than YRB PG.. Who monitors this??
Rumour has it , local First Nations receiving $1200.00 each to attend winter games ???
Jim13136@Got a link to the Order in Council, or the number or date?
“I saw an Order in Council signed by Minister Thomson that says no offense is committed if a guide allows his client to kill more animals than the guide has been allotted by the govt. ”
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I call nonsense on that. No administrative decision can override the law.
Watched someone falling multiple times on the sidewalk on Ospika. Couldn’t figure it out from my windeow. Walked down their and saw the road plowed onto the sidewalk creating giant snowbank only other option to dodge cars on road. i dont understand why it would be so impossible to plow to the meridian instead of sidewalk?
i dont think pedestrians asking for faster snow clearing but smart clearing. why create an extra obstacle?
The BC Orders in Council are all available here. If there is an Order in Council allowing guide outfitters’ clients to take more animals than he has licenses for, it should possible to find it.
Why do the waiters/waitresses get called baristas at Starbucks. It’s just a coffee shop, trying to pander to the uppity crowd? Sounds goofy to me..
Well said Give More. I agree its long past time for Muslims to separate themselves from the actions of isis the way Jordan has. I think the sectarian nature of the conflict precludes most Muslim leaders from taking actions, preferring instead to sit on the fence so long as the violence is sectarian.
The whole regions is almost devoid of any real leadership and a best case scenario would probably be for Jordan to absorb the Sunni tribal areas of Iraq and Syria into a new form of federation thereby separating the tribes along sectarian lines keeping them apart from killing each other. Recognize a Kurdish Kurdistan and to hell with the treasonous Turkey, and inept and corrupted Shia Baghdad. Syria would become a rump state of the Alawite Shia, Christians, and Druze with its capital in Damascus. At least with the Sunni’s under the Jordanian monarchy it would be a better outcome than as marauding wahhabist puppets of global evil.
The friends of Israel would have us believe it is a global war on terror, and that restrictions to our civil liberties and personal privacy are the main tools to keep us all safe. Large government data bases on everything we see and think will stop crimes before they even happen.
Obama, as in his Prayer Service to the Nation yesterday, will have us believe the crimes of isis are ‘on par with those of Christians a thousand years ago during the crusades’, as an equivalency to justify isis crimes. Obama doesn’t get it and if he doesn’t get it the world has no hope of containing the isis contagion for the next couple of years.
What the world needs is a kind of modern day code of hammurabi for what is considered acceptable civilized norms of nations state behavior. Things like human rights, the right to a secular government separate from all religion but at the same time protecting all minorities as a right to their religion… clearly defining the priority of the rule of law as past down from a democratic system of governance as the basis and genus of our foreign policy. These should be as iron clad expected norms, standards, guarantees, natural human rights that we don’t deviate from as we wouldn’t nazism or another holocaust in our midst. Only then will those with ideals in those far off countries know what we truly stand for and have the courage to stand for those convictions with our nations in the west. Only then will Western nations know how to define who are friends are, and who it is that prefers to stand on the outside of humanity.
Those nations that refuse to acknowledge basic human rights and responsibilities as a nation state should have their elites embargoed, and publicly declared persona non grata as it pertains to participating in the civilized national economies of the world. Faux allies like Turkey, Israel, Ukraine, and Saudi Arabia should be called out for their partisan tribalism and racist incitements of extermism as clearly they are all out of bounds creating the conditions on the ground for elements like isis to thrive.
As for isis, I think if their ‘god’ can’t sort them out while they are alive then what hope do they have when the west is all done with them? After their terror film this last week I don’t think isis will be likely to find quarter anywhere other than Obama’s rhetoric.
Time Will Tell
Jim I agree that is outrageous. Clearly it is poaching and should not be outside the law.
Rumour has it, we are robbing peter to pay paul, with opening up the third floor at the Gateway Seniors centre on 20th ,to who knows what?? There will be a staff reduction on the 1st. and 2nd. floors. Our Seniors are the most vulnerable and need to be protected.
YRB Vanderhoof does a better job mainly because they actually sand the road. If one looks at where the sand salt shed are and the distance to the main shop, places like Vanderhoof, Quesnel and the more isolated coverage areas have a much more efficient set up.
PG has YRB in the Hart to cover the highway south of town to Hixon and West out to Bednesti… it takes a plow truck 45 minutes just to get across town to even start on those highways. Often in the other regions one will see two or even three trucks working the highways in a storm and on the PG side its often not more than one. A better solution I think would be for YRB to have a regional office right on highway 16 west of PG (maybe the old Beverly highway rescue yard)… and then they could have more assets on the scene when required and not a 45 minute commute away. Ditto for south of town maybe a regional office in Red Rock or something of that nature. Clearly PG gets short changed on road maintenance though, especially on the amount of sand that is deployed.
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2015 @ 10:08 AM by axman
“I saw an Order in Council signed by Minister Thomson that says no offense is committed if a guide allows his client to kill more animals than the guide has been allotted by the govt. ”
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I call nonsense on that. No administrative decision can override the law.
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No nonsense at all!
Start listening at the 47 minute mark……………>>>>>>>https://soundcloud.com/ian-jessop-cfax/february-4-2pm<<<<<<<<
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2015 @ 10:08 AM by axman
“I saw an Order in Council signed by Minister Thomson that says no offense is committed if a guide allows his client to kill more animals than the guide has been allotted by the govt. ”
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I call nonsense on that. No administrative decision can override the law.
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It was signed March 22, 2013 and is a fact!
Start listening at the 47 minute mark axman. soundcloud.com/ian-jessop-cfax/february-4-2pm
The same Ian Jessop that still thinks vaccinations cause autism?
Do we have any credible sources, he is about as believable as the national enquirer. I’m curious on the topic but have trouble believing him.
(Caveat – I can’t listen to the link right now)
Looks like Dragonmaster is right about the wildlife regulations. Look at 16.011: Wildlife Act General Regulation.
“It was signed March 22, 2013 and is a fact!”
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The administrative order may be a fact, but if it runs contrary to established law it’s not worth the paper it’s written on. All it needs is someone to challenge it.
Retired 02
“Did I ever get a laugh out of your post Maverick.
What a pile of do do Only two answers . What kinder garden class do you children go too or are you getting old and senile.
See you next Friday.
Cheers”
It was a little constructive criticism for ya Retired 02. Hopefully you don’t get caught up in that gang mentality and refrain from throwing chicken shit on the homeless. Ha,ha..
Natives should band together and shut down all guide outfitter in B.C. Save the remaining animals for sustenance.
Axman, The Crown has great discretion in deciding whether to prosecute. Even if the regulation making it not an offence for a guide’s clients to exceed his quota is not valid, and even if someone successfully challenges it, if the Crown wishes to treat the regulation as policy, it is very difficult to do anything about it because prosecution at the discretion of the Crown.
The Simon Fraser Lodge looks like an Ice Castle with all these icicles hanging from the roof.
(b) (ii) of the Act”, and
(d) by adding the following section:
Exception — exceeding quota assigned to guide outfitter licence
16.011 Despite section 16.01 (i), and without limiting section 60 (2) of the Act, a guide outfitter does not commit an offence if the guide outfitter has a quota assigned as a condition of his or her guide outfitter licence and allows his or her clients to kill game to the extent that the number killed exceeds the quota assigned to the guide outfitter.
ORDER IN COUNCIL #183 Dated March 22/13 signed by Minister Thomson
“…why it would be so impossible to plow to the meridian instead of sidewalk?”
Not to be nitpicking but meridian is a term used in earth science. A strip that may be paved or planted with grass which separates opposing lanes of traffic (vehicular or pedestrian) is called a median.
MINISTRY OF FORESTS, LANDS AND NATURAL RESOURCE OPERATIONS INFORMATION NOTE Date: May 25, 2012 CLIFF/tracking #: 188559
PREPARED FOR: Tom Ethier, Assistant Deputy Minister, Resource Stewardship Division ISSUE: In preparation for the meeting on May 31st, 2012 5:30 pm 6:00 pm with Minister Pat Bell, Mark Werner, Board President and Scott Ellis, Executive Director, Guide Outfitter Association of BC (GOABC).
BACKGROUND: GOABC is meeting with Minister Pat Bell and ADM Tom Ethier to discuss:
1. Adventure Tourism Policy concerns
2. Requests for Wildlife Act amendments to improve industry competiveness. In November 2011, Wildlife Act amendments were introduced to provide business certainty to the guiding industry and to provide additional recreational opportunities to youth and families. As of April 1st, 2012, there was an increase in the deadline for submission of a guide report from 10 days after the conclusion of a hunt to 30 days after the conclusion of a hunt. Extending the deadline for submission of a guide declaration made it easier for guide outfitters to comply with reporting requirements, particularly for guides in isolated areas. As of July 1st, 2012, the ministry is increasing the length of the guiding territory certificate from a maximum of 10 years to a maximum of 25 years.
The certificate can be reissued after 3/5 of the term of the certificate has elapsed, for a period not to exceed 25 years.
GOABC received $50,000 for marketing support from the Ministry of Jobs, Tourism and Innovation for 2011/12, and a further $30,000 for 2012/13.
Support from JTI is applied to GOABC’s AGM, translation services for their website and a consumer expo.
$80 000 dollars to the GOABC from the Liberals?
Why is YRB so cheap with the sand? The Hart highway was a skating rink on tues. The sand they use is right there. I saw one truck doing a lane about 11am, he dropped sand from The lights on Kelly rd to the shopping mall and then proceeded down the glare ice highway without dropping anymore. The Sandhill was polished and gleaming and so was the hill from the Mohawk into town and he still had a load on but was off somewhere else I guess. Eagle one had excellent suggestions for the improvement of operations. See his post.. I hope someone is listening and I hope the public start demanding that they step up and make some much needed improvements.
There was no sand on the hwy at the bottom of the Mudd where the ambulance blew off the road or the cop near the Jensen sub the other day either.
The Hwy is white until you get to the end of their area at Bednesti where YRB Vanderhoof has the hwy looking like a dirt road heading towards the west as usual.
I hear you Dragonmaster. Who do they report to?
I said this on a post the other day. The difference between their jurisdictions and others is often like night and day. If other outfits can do the job, why can’t they?
Seeing that you have YRB employee ownership in the company it would be interesting to know what bonuses have been paid out to employees for not doing an oh so good job. You know it’s all about saving money for the company.
Kudos to the “B.H.S.” log truck driver, yesterday at 6-30 a.m. who managed to maneuver his fully loaded log truck into the inside lane heading down a snowy, icy Peden Hill, in-order that He could pass every one else.At the long descent towards the Cowart road intersection He decided to “give-er” probably reaching 80-90 km/hr. Heading towards Ferry ave. the lights were already changing to red.A fully loaded truck, going this fast would be unable to stop. I’m sure He tried to brake,but all the lights on the back of his rig were not functioning. No doubt he blasted the horn, just to let others know He had the right of way. I hope this “professional” driver was first into the log yard!!!
Yeah, less iron on the highway, less expenses, less drivers to pay, less cost, more profit. I agree oldman1
So a winter mini rant:
I get it, you’re short on time and the snow is a pain the behind to think about, shovel or navigate in. You’ve shoveled the driveway at least a few times in the same day, once before you left to go to work and once more before you pulled in after work, maybe even once before you went to bed. It’s a rough time. I get it.
That doesn’t mean you should leave it to the last moment, end up running late and then drive like a maniac, trying to get to your job on time. If this was the first snow fall of the year, I’d laugh and comment something like, “it’s like the people in PG forget about snow every year! We’re such optimists!” but really, it’s FEBRUARY, there has been a few major snow falls this year (albeit somewhat abnormal for PG). You should be resigned/used to the idea of snow by now.
To the fool who ran the four way stop and nearly ran me over this morning, the white stuff on the ground is SNOW, no cocaine or meth, and as such, you don’t need to go faster…in fact you should slow down a bit. You need to give yourself a few extra minutes to get to work and back safely, and trust me, that extra 15 minutes spent actually cleaning your car windshield of snow, and the extra time spent driving with due care and caution is time well spent. Unless of course you want to be the person who tragically runs a stop sign and hurts someone because you _couldn’t_ see a person and even if you tried to stop, were going to fast for the conditions.
Slow the heck down. 15 minutes extra on your daily commute is a lot nicer than the possible consequences of that hasty race down the slippery hill.
checkout the Terrace highway cam…white out
Permits extended for Alberta’s TFWs.“Last June, the Harper government promised to limit the number of TFWs that low-wage employers could use. But now, they’ve quietly broken their promise and changed the rules,” AFL president Gil McGowan said in a news release Tuesday.
McGowan said this new plan from the Harper government is “cynical, sneaky and mean-spirited” because they have tried to dress it up as an act of kindness to the thousands of TFWs who face the prospect of deportation as soon as April 1.
Thank you PrinceGeorge for posting the definition of “meridian” (you beat me to it) The misuse of this word when it relates to the barrier between lanes (the proper word is “median”) is one of my pet peeves. It’s not just people here who call it a meridian, that mistake is also made by the people in other cities in BC (and I have been to most of them)
So tell me oldman 1, just were are fast food employers, for one example, in places like Ft. Mac, Whitehorse to get employees. It is an act of kindness for TFWs who expected to work out their contract and putting employers into turmoil.
I see the Pacific Center for Climate Solutions have sucked in the local Chamber of Commerce in their misinformation of Co2. To put it simple there has been no statistically significant increase of temperature for over 18 years despite an increase of Co2 over that time. AGW is a result of computer models not real world data.
There is no science that shows if C02 has any effect on climate or even it does, by how much. Mans contribution to global C02 is only 3% of total C02. That means natural atmospheric C02 is 97%, so Manns contribution is a paltry 3% and the grant seeking warmers say that 3% will cook the world, ya right. Use some critical thinking chamber of commerce, you have been had.
Oh anyhow British Columbia’s contribution to the 3% is something like .01% of that 3%
Remember Gore has become a billionaire pushing the scam and having carbon credit investments. He and Suzuki do not save the world for free.
Those in the PCCS also make a good coin, follow the money.
seamutt–The TFWs is all about cheap labour. They have used these people even when labourers were available. Don’t you remember Pat Bell telling everyone that the province could not get anyone to work in the coal mines north of PG? After the union did a check into the situation over 300 applicants were denied and never looked at. If things are so great in Fort McMurray why don’t employers pay decent wages and there will be no problem finding workers in this province as well as Canada.
The shortage of workers that government is talking is all lip service and a sham.
Want to become a cardiac surgeon? Do you know the right people?
As taken from “TheTyee”
“Cardiac surgeons on a selection committee at St. Paul’s Hospital manipulated the hiring process for a training position so they could hire a student who was the son of their boss and of a provincial cabinet minister, documents show.
The documents do not name the student, but The Tyee reported in 2013 that Kevin Lichtenstein received a residency position in cardiac surgery at St. Paul’s Hospital through the University of British Columbia, where his father Sam Lichtenstein is the head of the division of cardiovascular surgery.
Sam Lichtenstein is also the director of cardiovascular thoracic (CVT) surgery at St. Paul’s and the medical director for the regional cardiac science program at Providence Health Care and Vancouver Coastal Health. His emailed response this week to detailed questions about how his son received the residency position said, “I refer you to the Faculty of Medicine, UBC, who is responsible for the process.”
Kevin Lichtenstein’s mother is Moira Stilwell, who was the minister of social development in Premier Christy Clark’s cabinet before the 2013 election –though she’s since been demoted to the government’s backbench — and who as a parliamentary secretary to the health minister wrote a report in 2011 titled “Action Plan for Repatriating BC Medical Students Studying Abroad.” She is also a radiologist who before being elected was head of nuclear medicine at several hospitals, including St. Paul’s.”
City blowing this year has been stellar. I hope that when the overtime bill needs to be paid, the good folks on this site will gladly see their taxes raised to cover the deficit. Have a good one, folks!
City SNOW blowing! Damn auto correct. :-)
hahaha….gotta love the lack of an edit option
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