Such a to-do over a rag on a stick. Bet we’d still have the Red Ensign if lithping Lethter had put his pennant up against it in a referendum 50 years ago, instead of forcing it through Parliament the way it was done.

Lester Bowles Pearson PC, OM, CC, OBE , canadian scholar ,statesman ,soldier , and diplomat . A nobel prize for peace for solving the Suez Canal crisis . Introduced universal health care , student loans , canada pension plan , canadian flag and abolished capital punishment . He was one of Canada’s greatest prime ministers . A real leader of all of canada . He deserves respect . Socredible you deserve something but it’s not respect .

Socredible, or Incredible?

The only statement Socredible, has right it wasn’t called the Union Jack but the Red Ensign. It was a great flag and I still hive two that raise on Canada Day and on November 11 on holder by my garage door. And I have to agree we have never had another Prime Minister like Lester Pearson
Cheers

How our flag came to be is not really the point these days. It’s what our flag means in other countries and how it’s looked at. In times of disaster and where people are suffering, our flag means the world to them because of the bodies that wear it proudly and render aid where ever we are asked to go. You need to think that, to many, we are a hard working, loyal and proud people who are not scared to step up in times of need world wide.

Be it in a peace keeping roll, humanitarian aid work, or when need be protecting and liberating people who are oppressed by war. Our flag means so very much to millions of people world wide, there is not other flag like it anywhere in the world. It’s earned the respect of so many for what it stands for, freedom, equality, safety, care and most importantly hope for the future.

Our flag and our people don’t pick global fights, our flag and our people end fights! That’s something to be proud of.

Under leaders like Pearson the above statement of professional rings true, but under Harper Canada now stands for the country that picks the side of the oppressor that attacks innocent civilians through collective punishment ideology.

Eagleone

Never got a straight answer on which side your gramps was on during the war. Many german soldiers left what was left of Europe after the war and settled in Canada. There are pockets of German immigrants all over the western provinces dating back to the homestead days so would not feel too out of place. Argentina would be another prime example,cattle rancher would be a recent addition to many CV’s in the later 40’s, dig a little further back and the work history would be an ocean and an army away.

Given the evasive answer I think that any cabbage on that Ft Mcleod dinner table was slightly fermented and server with bratwurst, not in the form of bubble and squeak or even with corned beef and a pint of Guinness.

“And I have to agree we have never had another Prime Minister like Lester Pearson.”
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Thank God for that! He was the absolute worst thing ever visited upon our fair Dominion of all the PMs we’ve ever had. He never did get a majority government, and the only reason he ever managed to get elected at all was because of American interference in undermining Diefenbaker’s government after it negotiated the massive wheat sales to Russia and China, and continued to trade with Castro’s Cuba.

Can’t you just see President Lyndon Johnson picking that little piss-ant of a Pearson up by his suit lapels and bawling the Hell out of him for not following the American program on the Auto-pact the way it was supposed to play out? And then Pearson grovelling to him with an apology? All the while his minion, Hellyer, was wrecking our military, just to get the title “Royal” off our Navy and Air Force. Too ‘colonial’, or something. An honor that was won by those units in battle, but had to be trashed by a Prime Minister so gutless that he couldn’t even openly do what Prince Phillip suggested he do with all our connections to Britain and the Crown ~ “If you’re not happy with them, just end them.” Lets hope if that unfortunate day ever does come that WE’LL be given a choice in the matter in a referendum, and not have it rammed down our throats like his pennant was.

But socredible….the “Pearson Pennant” was not the accepted design. Pearson wanted a flag with 2 blue bars and 3 maple leafs in the centre on a white background. The accepted design is modeled after the Canadian Military College flag. Sorry, rant on.

Given the evasive answer I think that any cabbage on that Ft Mcleod dinner table was

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you never seem to tire of being a jerk. Give us a meaningful idea and not the stuff that comes from your black end.

Cheers

Whatever, Digitus. There really should have been a referendum on it, on anything symbolic like that. If the majority of Canadians favoured it over the Red Ensign, so be it. Those of us opposed to it would have had our chance, and if we lost, that’s that. It would have been accepted much more readily if the whole country had had a choice, and made it. It shouldn’t have been forced through Parliament the way it was, using closure to choke off debate. Not even allowing a free vote so MPs could actually represent the wishes of the majority of their constituents after trying to discern what was wanted.

It always amazes me how the Liberals, and all their supporters on here scream ‘dictator’ so loudly whenever Harper even looks like he might be going to play by the same rules Pearson, and Trudeau, used, let alone the few times he has actually done so. Yet they see nothing wrong with some insignifigent little worm of a Liberal PM who felt he wasn’t being noticed as a ‘Canadian’ diplomat because we were “too British” trampling all over our established traditions and replacing them with nothing of value.

Sparrow, did the Germans even HAVE tanks in World War One?

Sparrow, my great grandfather (Law) was Canadian not German. He was originally a settler of South Carolina, but left for Alberta during the civil war and settled their farm before Fort McLeod even existed. He fought both world wars for the Canadian army. One of my dads great uncles was I think the first mayor of Fort McLeod and my dads side of the family still populates the area.

My moms side doesn’t have any war hero’s I know of, but my mom’s mom’s family traces back to some of the earliest settlers of New France, through to the Red River and Saskatchewan in the 1800’s and finally settling on Vancouver Island in the 40’s where they founded what became one of BC’s biggest companies.

So Sparrow rest assured I have more Canadian history in my family than you have in your thumb. Just because I stand for the rights of the oppressed does not make me unCanadian as you would suggest thereby making the notion of a voice for justice illegitimate.

My grandpa on my moms side came from Italy when he was 14 with his siblings during WW2 because his parents ran afoul of Mussolini. They were wine makers that ran a vineyard since the time of Ceaser, and still to this day have wine that carries their family name. Their claim to fame was that their wine was the currency that fueled the Roman legions during the republic.

The Canada I stand for is the Canada Lester Pearson stood for in foreign policy. A Canada of peace makers and peace keepers that protect the innocent and vulnerable from the greed and vice of war criminals that practice collective punishment, that opposes the degenerates that practice race based apartheid with a perverted concept of ‘democracy’ based on force, and against those that spurn the equality of rights under constitutional law. If that offends you so much that you have to stalk me with liable innuendo than so be it… it says a lot about who you are and doesn’t hurt my point of view or intimidate me one bit.

mistake…he wasn’t a settler of South Carolina, but his forefathers were that he traced his lineage from… although he did have duel Canadian/American citizenship, as did my dads parents. My dad never saw it relevant to continue with that.

To this day most half of Lethbridge and area are duel citizens a legacy of their population migration from the states side of the porous boarder.

“The Canada I stand for is the Canada Lester Pearson stood for in foreign policy. A Canada of peace makers and peace keepers that protect the innocent and vulnerable…”

Beautifully said and I whole heartedly agree!

Pearson left a positive legacy of peace and peace making! The one who physically laid a hand on him by grabbing him by the lapels of his coat did not.

The facts speak for themselves.

Yup. LBJ the guy that got his job through an assassination. First thing he did was cancel the JFK executive order to have the US Treasury print its own currency free of the US Fed central banking cartel, and the JFK executive order for inspections of Israeli Dimonia nuclear reactor to ensure they weren’t developing nuclear weapons. LBJ then according to recently released Pentagon papers from the 80’s not only canceled the inspections, but facilitated the development of Israeli nukes with American technology (something he could have been charged with treason for).

IMO LBJ not only man handled the Canadian Prime Minister, he also I think was the brains behind the JFK assassination that was coordinated by George Bush senior as their inside CIA contact in Dallas at the time. America has been occupied by a shadow government ever since as their freedoms and middle class has been eroded culminating in this latest ‘war on terror’.

Lester Pearson did exactly as his immediate masters in the US State Department wanted him to do. He was THEIR man, bought and paid for. He would never have even got to be Prime Minister without their covert interference in undermining Diefenbaker’s government, because Dief had the temerity to peddle our wheat surpluses to starving Russians and Chinese, quite probably averting World War Three. Something a certain little group south of the border was no doubt hoping for.

Early on, Pearson the diplomats job, just like that of his ‘visible’ boss, Prime Minister MacKenzie King, was to denigrate anything and everything that tied Canada to the British Empire. That’s what the Americans, at least those who REALLY govern America, wanted them to do. And that’s exactly what they did, at every opportunity.

It truly surprises me that someone like Eagleone, who writes with so much vehemence about the deprivations of Zionism and the ‘banksters’ like the Rothschilds and their American proxies, the Rockefellers, has never clued in to the fact that the hidden side of Zionism has an aim far different than its stated purpose of securing a homeland for the Jews in what’s now Israel.

If it WAS only about its stated purpose, they could’ve bought all those pesky Palestinians off years ago, and set them all up quite handsomely in Jordan, Syria, or Iraq, who’d have no doubt welcomed such an influx of wealth. But that’s NOT what it’s really all about, and never was.

Rather it wants ‘One World Government’ with an international ‘police force’ under the auspices of the United Nations to impose ITS order on the world. And it will be ITS order, too, because its operatives hold the ‘purse strings’. And he who pays the piper calls the tune. That old ‘Black Magic’ of High Finance.

And Lester Pearson’s role in all of this, once he’d trashed everything that made Canada Canada and sold us a bunch of sanctimonious mush about our ‘peacekeepers’ protecting the ‘innocent and vulnerable’ after they’ve been reduced to a bunch of pickle-suited, equipment starved boobs that wouldn’t even be able to protect anyone other than the politicians on Parliament Hill if the public objected?

Pretend to be an ‘economic nationalist’, but make sure you don’t change anything to do with FINANCE. Especially in any way that might enable your citizens as ‘individuals’ to be able to fully afford ‘financially’ what they’re more than capable of producing ‘physically’. Instead, reduce them to total dependence on government ‘programs’, supposedly funded by tax dollars, but really set up to put them, and the government, ever further in debt. That’s what was wanted. Not by us. But by those who told Pearson what to do, and made sure he did it. And he didn’t disappoint THEM, much.

Actually, Deer34, I believe the British Union Jack was the ‘official’ flag of Canada prior to 1965, but the Red Ensign evolved from quite early on in the century into the flag we used throughout the country and the world. That was the nice thing about it, it just ‘evolved’, like Canada itself. We didn’t need some ‘government’ imposing it on us. The coat-of-arms was at one time in a white circle, and originally not the same coat-of-arms we use today. When that was changed, sometime in the late 1930’s or early ’40’s, I think, the white circle around it was dropped, and just the shield retained. Diefenbaker’s government changed the colour of the three maple leaves at the bottom of the shield from ‘green’ to ‘red’. Might’ve been a bad omen ~ dead leaves tend to fall!