Did I miss something? Has there been an announcement of an LNG project going ahead?

Shirley Bond’s expression says it all. As oldcoot said, what LNG project?

Yes OC you did miss the announcement . It’s happening in kitimat . The pipeline right of way is being cleared . PVal native children get 30 % less per child than other Canadian children . Is that racist ? You betcha .

And on top of this wonderful announcement, CNC announces it’s cuts to programs today because of under funding. GOOD GRIEF!!!!

I look forward to reading the comments from the boo-bird peanut gallery when the first LNG project and a large pipeline project are both announced within the next 6 months.

I get to fund my children’s education… after I pay taxes to fund this. She doesn’t qualify for any assistance. The pendulum has swung too far.

CWMAD posted “The aboriginals need to get off of their reserves and contribute to society with the rest of us”
Its just that easy eh?
I am assuming that you don’t quite grasp the concept that these types of programs are trying to help with exactly what you are asking for.

Ataloss, a good friend of mine took advantage of what was offered to him and became a lawyer. He is native and everything was paid for, including his rent and food to pay for his family while he attended UBC. He said he was the only one from his band to take advantage of this.. Not sure what %30 has to do,with anything since his education was entirely paid.

I’m all for First Nations youth receiving training.
There has been millions spent in the northwest on projects that have been stopped. VOR ,if you know something ,maybe you would care to enlighten us. Until I’m sitting in a machine out west, with levers in my hands I’ll work on my financial future elsewhere.

CWMAD, like any nationalities, there are a few that tar and feathers the rest of them. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all First Nation people are drunks. Not all Chinese people are smart and business savied. Not all White people are racists, and capital pigs.

There are a lot of hardworking First Nation people that have left the reserves to make something out of themselves. There are a lot of well educated first nation people out there, showing the province what needs to be done. Don’t paint an entire group of people with one brush, take the time and learn, it will be beneficial.

The otherside of the coin on this is, a lot of money going into training means, mainstream business will benefit as well.

They have been constructing the first LNG terminal in Kitimat since 2011, Bish Cove work is still ongoing. Woodside just signed on earlier this month as 50/50 coventure with Chevron taking over from Apache. It idled for a bit when Apache pulled out but with Woodside things should get rolling now. The Kitimat LNG in town site which used to be a pulp mill will become an ATCO camp running 5,000 workers in construction phase. Woodside and Chevron work together in Australia on LNG shipping so garnering contracts overseas will not be that huge an issue. The Pacific Trails pipeline will be a much needed part of the final rubber stamp. The land is already leased from Haisla so they are on board.

Good News,

If only the “my tax dollar” crowd realized the potential here.

Let me outline that potential.

-The money will be spent locally.
-This signals a commitment to help get First Nations out of poverty by providing meaningful training.
-Skills can be transferred across multiple sectors.
-30 million up front is a hell of alot cheaper than fighting court cases that put more restrictions on industy.

I can go on..and on..

Yup. I’m a white guy and I’m all for this. Sometimes people need a hand up….not a hand out. The Govt. was there for me when I lost my job back in 08 so it’s kinda a pay it forward situation…..

One place that 30% figure may come from is funding for band schools. When a band operates a school on reserve, the school is paid for directly by Indian Affairs. Such schools have long been underfunded by 30% in the sense that the funding they receive is only 70% of what it would take to provide resources comparable to public schools.

The seminal work on the funding of band schools The Cost of Quality First Nations Education by Marie Matthews. Subsequent studies can be downloaded from the same First Nations Education Steering Committee web site.

Oops. That link is garbled. It should be: The Cost of Quality First Nations Education.

? Underfunded? Aandc pays 14, 503 per student in BC (2012) compare that with all other students funded by the provincial government and I do believe you are 70 percent the other way

Slinky.. The gov pays just over $4800 per student in public schools.. It keeps dropping every year

VOR…….I think you are off with your prediction of 6 mo LNG announcement. From what we see its 3 months away.
Tenders for some parts of the pipeline are closing within a month. Some Site C are close to award, if not already awarded.
We are in the lull before the construction cycle/boom in Northern BC takes off again. Construction costs are down, lots of labor available, it’s the perfect time for 2 mega projects to kick off.

What amount of money will start flowing? Is It 30 million over the next 50 yrs.

I think you’re probably right ImFrank – sooner rather than later. We have an $0.82 Canadian dollar making capital investment from off-shore players extremely attractive. We have plenty of skilled trades displaced from the Alberta oil patch looking for work in the medium term until global oil prices rebound. We have a favourable federal tax structure for LNG development that the international players support. And notwithstanding the BC Building Trades union bitching and moaning about the labour agreement structure at the Site C project, a relatively stable and predictable labour force. All that, plus the ongoing de-coupling of natural gas prices from crude oil prices, makes it a no-brainer that LNG development is coming soon to northern BC.

The dippers and whingers can complain and hand-wring all day long – the smart money knows that the world wants and needs Canada’s clean-burning natural gas to fuel economic development of all kinds, especially in emerging Asian and south Asian markets. Open your eyes, read something other than the crap from the University of YouTube and buckle up for a decade or more of sustainable economic growth in northern BC.

Check your facts PVal the community of Bella Bella says they get less per capita funding than public schools. Their funding works out to 20, 000 per student which they say is less than provincial figures for public schools. That is what they consider underfunded. In this figure is the facilities grants for buildings and infrastructure for the number to be that high, whether they take into consideration all the funding from all sources we do not know. However this figure is only for the native children, you do know native children in public school receive more funding than other children right? Overall the numbers are better for reserve schools as every child gets 20, 000 per year where public schools are way less for most of the pupils as only native children receive extra funding on top of the 8k plus facilities grants that non-native children do not receive. A couple years ago total funding including native in public schools was 18k per student. Reserve schools are still better funded unless you pull out one demographic but school boards don’t work that way.

If you want to decide whether band schools are underfunded or over funded, please read the studies on the FNESC web site. One important factor is that band schools are typically remote, which increases costs for the same materials. They are also typically small and therefore do not achieve the economies of scale that public schools typically do. It isn’t really meaningful simply to compare the number of dollars per student.

Slinky, just looked it up..2013-2014 school year the gov gave $8603 per student..

I’d be interested in an accounting of the federal money put toward aboriginal training for pipeline construction. Last figure I heard was $9 million. How much $$ does it take to train for a pipeline job that will be no longer once the construction is complete?