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Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 7:43 AM by Palopu with a score of 0
If nothing else, this Alberta election will once and for all show us whether or not polling is useful.
If the NDP doesn’t win after what the polls indicate then what use are the polls.
I would never in my wildest dreams think that an NDP Government could win in Alberta. If they do then this Country is in real trouble, mainly because the NDP for all intents and purposes have no skills when it comes to running a Province or Country.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:03 AM by Stillsmokin with a score of 0
Maybe we should send Palopu over to Alberta and run that province… He seems to have all the answers… Think our Gov’t will buy him a one way bus ticket???
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:32 AM by Palopu with a score of 0
Stillsmokin. Its the NDP that expect someone to buy them a bus ticket, others buy their own tickets with their own money. Just sayin.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:58 AM by pgjohn with a score of 0
Although NDP aren’t necessarily my favourite party, there’s an awful lot of NDP bashing in here. I know this city bleeds blue for the conservatives but the NDP has had some wins in our history. Thank the NDP for not having to pay for your next hospital visit.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 9:09 AM by PrinceGeorge with a score of 0
Alberta needs to learn a lesson! Nothing beats a good run of reality therapy when it comes to politics!
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 9:30 AM by Palopu with a score of 0
Health care in Sask was introduced in 1947 by the CCF Party (NDP) it was introduced in Alberta in 1950 by the Social Credit Party.
Although the idea was brought forward by the CCF it was John Diefenbaker, and Lester Pearson who were actually the driving force behind health care in Canada.
PS: Health care is not free. We may monthly premiums and taxes.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 10:14 AM by herbster with a score of 0
The idea that Conservatives are somehow the only ones able to manage a economy is laughable. The Ottawa PC’s have presided over 7 straight deficits. Alberta PC’s have presided over 5 straight deficits. Canadian history is littered with the corpses of terrible Conservative governments- Mulroney,Clark,Devine,and Davis immediately spring to mind. The PC’s in Alberta changed a royalty regime in 2009 that would have added $13.5 billion in revenues to the Alberta treasury.
Show me any other party that has mismanaged finances on such a scale. They deserve to be turfed.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 10:30 AM by Ataloss with a score of 0
Remember the cons almost passing out at the libs using ei funds to balance the budget. Well , Joe owe Oliver just used the same smoke , mirrors and ie fund to pretend balance the budget . The hypocracy party of canada is more apt . The useful idiot crowd should take back the lib smear on that account . Let’s hear your rant against Joe and his raiding of the ei fund . Don’t think so , cons have no shame .
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 10:59 AM by NMG with a score of 0
I think Palopu sees the Reform Party/Conservatives as the Bret Hart of politics. The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. LOL.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 12:15 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:32 AM by Palopu
Stillsmokin. Its the NDP that expect someone to buy them a bus ticket, others buy their own tickets with their own money. Just sayin.
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Is that how Mike Duffy and the rest of the scumbags do it, using their own money?
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 12:41 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
The list of scumbags in Canadian Politics is a long one. The Gomery commission was able to turf some of them out, however that is the nature of the beast.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 12:53 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
There is a significant difference between the $2.7 Billion used by Joe Oliver to balance the budget (with a plan to reduce EI payments) and the $54 Billion nicked by Paul Martin to balance his budgets. Just sayin.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 1:36 PM by NMG with a score of 0
While we’re on the topic of politicians raiding surplus accounts, we can’t forget about when Paul Martin took about 30 billion in surplus funds from the public service pension plan. Do you think that move had any impact on the “unfunded liability” that people love to talk about today with respect to pension obligations?
See, I can provide balanced commentary :)
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 2:11 PM by pgjohn with a score of 0
“PS: Health care is not free. We may monthly premiums and taxes.”
Never claimed health care was free. But I do know I’m not faced with the complete financial burden if I ever need surgery or chemo!
PS: The provincial liberals (truly conservatives) introduced the premiums
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 5:00 PM by ski51 with a score of 0
I think an NDP win in Alberta is good for B.C. If they succeed, well, then maybe they can govern after all and B.C. can look at that option as credible, but if they fail, then Christy Clark can win the next election without spending a dime and we won’t have to endure all those annoying political ads.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 6:40 PM by P Val with a score of 0
Majority NDP in Alberta.. Oh oh…the world is coming to an end…lol
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 7:41 PM by Grizzly2 with a score of 0
Palopu, I thought polls became extinct after their failure in the last BC election, but who knows, sort of like earthquake predictions.
I agree, NDP win in Alberta will hurt the taxpayers more than an earthquake.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 7:51 PM by P Val with a score of 0
Alberta is hurting already from the previous gov spending all the oil money..now there is none.. NDP,will have to try to fix what the previous gov screwed up. Eggs in one basket..just like the liberal party and LNG
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:39 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
This has to be the weirdest election I have ever watched.
The Wild Rose Party, and the PC’s actually split the vote and the NDP came down the middle for the win. Considering that the WRP and the PC’s are basically the same party this was perhaps the dumbest thing they could have ever done.
As a result they lost the election and now the Province has to contend with a socialist Government. That’s not going to go over very big in Alberta.
This is a prime example of the old adage **be careful what you wish for**. Now that the NDP has won the election they will have to learn how to run a Province that is primarily business oriented. Not an easy task, especially if you have no business sense.
I would have bet right up until to-day that the PC’s would win again.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:55 PM by Eagleone with a score of 0
Palopu, if you wish what you preach is true enough, it still does not make it true. Its a fault that one can say is a common trait among all that idolize Harper and his regime. You were wrong on all accounts.
What is this with the split vote crap. The pc party did absorb the wildrose and it backfired. They just upped the disgust by the voters is all trying to take away peoples vote after the fact. The facts of the results are that the ndp vote was more than then the pc and wildrose in almost every riding that they picked up.
Also if one truly looks at the results of governing in Canada, then it clearly tells a story of the ndp having a better fiscal record than the conservatives… in BC too. Rhetoric does not make fact. Let that be the lesson of the night for the likes of Harper conservatives.
The conservatives are all talk trying to create their own image, but when they win a government they always turn on the very people that supported their electoral success. The conservatives are clearly running out of useful idiots to manipulate for the benefit of the 1% and their crooked cronies.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 9:04 PM by Digitus Impudicus with a score of 0
There is already a rumour afloat about Alberta building catamaran ferries. ;-)
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 9:09 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
Eagleone. When you look at the results in the light of day. (Tomorrow) you will see that in many ridings the combined vote for the WRP and PC was much higher than the NDP. In fact the combined popular vote for the WRP and PC was in excess of 50% while the NDP only garnered some 40% of the popular vote.
So if we use the flawed NDP thinking when they talk about the Harper Conservatives, we could say that more people voted against the NDP than for them. Not that it matters as it is the number of seats that determines who forms the Government.
We only use the **flawed** thinking when we talk about Harper.
The Conservatives lost because they were voting against themselves Ie; WRP versus PC,. As a result Alberta is now the proud owner of a socialist Government.
In my opinion they got exactly what they deserve because they did not have the sense not to split the vote,.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 10:29 PM by Eagleone with a score of 0
So Palopu, are you trying to say that one should support a corrupt government no matter what. Trying to bring it back to true conservative roots like those in Southern Alberta that they should just shut up and continue to support corruption, so as not to split the vote?
I am not sure where you got the popular vote count from? If that is all you got, then your looking pretty shallow for an argument to support Harper.
The conservatives lost because they were corrupt, had no real understanding of the people they were elected to represent, they were condescending to the voter, didn’t value the electoral process as seen in their takeover buy out of the official opposition and hijacked election call meant to undermine the system, and they showed their true allegiance to global capitalists over the very people and land owners of the province who were left to hold the bag for their corrupt dealings. They most certainly didn’t loose because half the right wanted dignity in their politics.
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If nothing else, this Alberta election will once and for all show us whether or not polling is useful.
If the NDP doesn’t win after what the polls indicate then what use are the polls.
I would never in my wildest dreams think that an NDP Government could win in Alberta. If they do then this Country is in real trouble, mainly because the NDP for all intents and purposes have no skills when it comes to running a Province or Country.
Maybe we should send Palopu over to Alberta and run that province… He seems to have all the answers… Think our Gov’t will buy him a one way bus ticket???
Stillsmokin. Its the NDP that expect someone to buy them a bus ticket, others buy their own tickets with their own money. Just sayin.
Although NDP aren’t necessarily my favourite party, there’s an awful lot of NDP bashing in here. I know this city bleeds blue for the conservatives but the NDP has had some wins in our history. Thank the NDP for not having to pay for your next hospital visit.
Alberta needs to learn a lesson! Nothing beats a good run of reality therapy when it comes to politics!
Health care in Sask was introduced in 1947 by the CCF Party (NDP) it was introduced in Alberta in 1950 by the Social Credit Party.
Although the idea was brought forward by the CCF it was John Diefenbaker, and Lester Pearson who were actually the driving force behind health care in Canada.
PS: Health care is not free. We may monthly premiums and taxes.
The idea that Conservatives are somehow the only ones able to manage a economy is laughable. The Ottawa PC’s have presided over 7 straight deficits. Alberta PC’s have presided over 5 straight deficits. Canadian history is littered with the corpses of terrible Conservative governments- Mulroney,Clark,Devine,and Davis immediately spring to mind. The PC’s in Alberta changed a royalty regime in 2009 that would have added $13.5 billion in revenues to the Alberta treasury.
http:**parklandinstitute.ca*media*comments*royalties_fix_would_eliminate_much_of_albertas_deficit
Show me any other party that has mismanaged finances on such a scale. They deserve to be turfed.
Remember the cons almost passing out at the libs using ei funds to balance the budget. Well , Joe owe Oliver just used the same smoke , mirrors and ie fund to pretend balance the budget . The hypocracy party of canada is more apt . The useful idiot crowd should take back the lib smear on that account . Let’s hear your rant against Joe and his raiding of the ei fund . Don’t think so , cons have no shame .
I think Palopu sees the Reform Party/Conservatives as the Bret Hart of politics. The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. LOL.
Posted on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 @ 8:32 AM by Palopu
Stillsmokin. Its the NDP that expect someone to buy them a bus ticket, others buy their own tickets with their own money. Just sayin.
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Is that how Mike Duffy and the rest of the scumbags do it, using their own money?
The list of scumbags in Canadian Politics is a long one. The Gomery commission was able to turf some of them out, however that is the nature of the beast.
There is a significant difference between the $2.7 Billion used by Joe Oliver to balance the budget (with a plan to reduce EI payments) and the $54 Billion nicked by Paul Martin to balance his budgets. Just sayin.
While we’re on the topic of politicians raiding surplus accounts, we can’t forget about when Paul Martin took about 30 billion in surplus funds from the public service pension plan. Do you think that move had any impact on the “unfunded liability” that people love to talk about today with respect to pension obligations?
See, I can provide balanced commentary :)
“PS: Health care is not free. We may monthly premiums and taxes.”
Never claimed health care was free. But I do know I’m not faced with the complete financial burden if I ever need surgery or chemo!
PS: The provincial liberals (truly conservatives) introduced the premiums
I think an NDP win in Alberta is good for B.C. If they succeed, well, then maybe they can govern after all and B.C. can look at that option as credible, but if they fail, then Christy Clark can win the next election without spending a dime and we won’t have to endure all those annoying political ads.
Majority NDP in Alberta.. Oh oh…the world is coming to an end…lol
Palopu, I thought polls became extinct after their failure in the last BC election, but who knows, sort of like earthquake predictions.
I agree, NDP win in Alberta will hurt the taxpayers more than an earthquake.
Alberta is hurting already from the previous gov spending all the oil money..now there is none.. NDP,will have to try to fix what the previous gov screwed up. Eggs in one basket..just like the liberal party and LNG
This has to be the weirdest election I have ever watched.
The Wild Rose Party, and the PC’s actually split the vote and the NDP came down the middle for the win. Considering that the WRP and the PC’s are basically the same party this was perhaps the dumbest thing they could have ever done.
As a result they lost the election and now the Province has to contend with a socialist Government. That’s not going to go over very big in Alberta.
This is a prime example of the old adage **be careful what you wish for**. Now that the NDP has won the election they will have to learn how to run a Province that is primarily business oriented. Not an easy task, especially if you have no business sense.
I would have bet right up until to-day that the PC’s would win again.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Palopu, if you wish what you preach is true enough, it still does not make it true. Its a fault that one can say is a common trait among all that idolize Harper and his regime. You were wrong on all accounts.
What is this with the split vote crap. The pc party did absorb the wildrose and it backfired. They just upped the disgust by the voters is all trying to take away peoples vote after the fact. The facts of the results are that the ndp vote was more than then the pc and wildrose in almost every riding that they picked up.
Also if one truly looks at the results of governing in Canada, then it clearly tells a story of the ndp having a better fiscal record than the conservatives… in BC too. Rhetoric does not make fact. Let that be the lesson of the night for the likes of Harper conservatives.
The conservatives are all talk trying to create their own image, but when they win a government they always turn on the very people that supported their electoral success. The conservatives are clearly running out of useful idiots to manipulate for the benefit of the 1% and their crooked cronies.
There is already a rumour afloat about Alberta building catamaran ferries. ;-)
Eagleone. When you look at the results in the light of day. (Tomorrow) you will see that in many ridings the combined vote for the WRP and PC was much higher than the NDP. In fact the combined popular vote for the WRP and PC was in excess of 50% while the NDP only garnered some 40% of the popular vote.
So if we use the flawed NDP thinking when they talk about the Harper Conservatives, we could say that more people voted against the NDP than for them. Not that it matters as it is the number of seats that determines who forms the Government.
We only use the **flawed** thinking when we talk about Harper.
The Conservatives lost because they were voting against themselves Ie; WRP versus PC,. As a result Alberta is now the proud owner of a socialist Government.
In my opinion they got exactly what they deserve because they did not have the sense not to split the vote,.
So Palopu, are you trying to say that one should support a corrupt government no matter what. Trying to bring it back to true conservative roots like those in Southern Alberta that they should just shut up and continue to support corruption, so as not to split the vote?
I am not sure where you got the popular vote count from? If that is all you got, then your looking pretty shallow for an argument to support Harper.
The conservatives lost because they were corrupt, had no real understanding of the people they were elected to represent, they were condescending to the voter, didn’t value the electoral process as seen in their takeover buy out of the official opposition and hijacked election call meant to undermine the system, and they showed their true allegiance to global capitalists over the very people and land owners of the province who were left to hold the bag for their corrupt dealings. They most certainly didn’t loose because half the right wanted dignity in their politics.
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