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Opposition to Pacific NorthWest LNG

Friday, May 22, 2015 @ 3:55 AM

Prince Rupert, B.C.-  The Province may have  a memorandum of understanding with Pacific NorthWest LNG about its proposed LNG facility on Lelu Island, but the project  is seeing  opposition.

More than  two thousand people have  signed their names to a declaration  aimed at saving Lelu Island.

At issue is future of Flora Bank,  and eelgrass in the area which  critics  site  as being  critical to Skeena River Salmon.

“Communities of the Skeena watershed are not willing to risk losing their salmon for Petronas’ short-sighted LNG project.” said Gerald Amos, Friends of Wild Salmon Chair. “Salmon have been the roots of our culture for generations and we will ensure that they remain so for generations to come.”

PETRONAS has not yet made a final investment decision on the project.  Earlier this week, Premier Christy Clark   announced a memorandum of understanding has been signed with  the project proponent .  The MOU has yet to be approved by the project’s partners, and   will be presented as legislation for  government approval.

 

 

Comments

Can someone please explain how the eelgrass (underwater) and salmon (underwater) will be affected by activities on the surface? The substructure for the crossing to the island will be located away from the eelgrass beds. All activities associated with the liquefaction of the natural gas will happen in process trains above the surface of the water. How will the eelgrass and salmon know (or care about) what’s happening on this side of the ocean’s surface?

VOR – it’s my understanding that the loading terminal will be located near the salmon fishery. Would you swim around there?

You bet I would. A 90,000 ton displacement LNG carrier ship floating on the surface does nothing to the water below it. It’s like asking ‘would you stand next to that big airplane on the tarmac? What if something went wrong?’

What about all the diesel that leaks into the water when refilling fuel? Have you seen what the water looks like at a boating dock? BTW this is a habitat, not a visit. Perhaps I should have used the word “live” instead of swim.

Considering that after this plant is built. (If its built) At best it will employ about 400 people, and pay the BC Government some money in royalties. Is it really worth doing??? Perhaps for the proponents who stand to make millions if not billions of dollars, however very little to be gained for the average Joe/Jane in BC.

Much better off to use this natural gas to generate electricity for local consumption, supply cheap electricity to industry, and export our surplus for US dollars, plus the royalties.

I think the concept of using this gas within the Province of BC is a concept that the BC Government and BC Hydro cannot, or will not comprehend, for them its short term gain for long term pain.

‘Much better off to use this natural gas to generate electricity for local consumption, supply cheap electricity to industry, and export our surplus for US dollars, plus the royalties.’

That’s baloney and reflective of a parochial point of view. The LNG export business is about supplying the world (and in particular southeast Asia) with much needed, clean-burning energy. This is a global game, to be played out over many decades. When we’re all pushing up daisies there will be a steady stream of safe, efficient LNG tankers supplying BC and Alberta natural gas to markets around the world, all contributing much needed royalties to the provincial government to fund schools, hospitals and social programs.

Hydro electric is cheaper than natural gas and is not open to market pricing.

That’s why the province is developing Site C (for cheaper hydroelectric power domestically) and selling the higher value energy overseas. Makes perfect economic sense to me.

The sooner this province capitulates to the natives and hands over the keys to everything, the sooner we can all realize the prosperity of economic development. The whining left and the save the salmon garbage is all just part of the role a patsy plays in this con.
Large multi-nationals are used to paying off leaders of undemocratic fiefdoms, and are allowed to conduct business without any messy environmental regulations. That is simply a white man’s construct to appease the whining masses. Let’s just roll up our sleeves and turn this province into an emirate on the coast. At least the roads and hospitals will be top notch.

“all contributing much needed royalties to the provincial government to fund schools, hospitals and social programs.”

rotflol

The BC government is giving away our resources for pittance royalty in exchange for marginal employment promises. These jobs will need to import the skilled labour which will do little for the local already residing in the area.

Any royalties will go into general revenues to be spread amongst all competing interests including partisan interests. I have very little faith that there will be a significant impact on schools, hospitals, and social programs specifically.

Maybe if the company built some schools, health care facilities and contributed to the community in a meaningful way, I and others would have more faith. As it stands, this is still the colonial industrial expansionist modus operandi that steam rolls communities and environments for base profits.

Shucks, I agree with seamutt.

Jimmy Hughes – how did that work out for Zimbabwe and many other African nations who capitulated to dictators and multi-nationals?

In BC we will be raked over the coals and have an ever increasing gdp going towards servicing the legal bills of never ending treaty court battles. All of which the province will lose. It is just a matter of time. The more progressive the courts become, the more their progressivness (…if there is such a word) will be measured by what they can hand over. What was deemed a long shot will become a slam dunk.
This dithering while the resource sector just spirals around the toilet bowl in uncertainty serves nobody.
Just like with the end to apartheid; just rip the band aid off and hand over the reins of government while we still have a paycheque left to take home.
Then we can all see who the new boss is….same as the old boss. Next.

Funny side note. If it wasn’t for those Africans turning to companies like Anglo-American in the 60’s I never would have been born in Zambia. I would be a real authentic Brit!! Rats!

First our govt’s, VOR, Jimmy Hughes and the corporations will rape and pillage earth, then they will move onto the other planets.

Shills alive batman!

I get it. Lets flood all the farm land in the Peace River, to generate electricity that we don’t need, export the electricity we cant use to the USA for next to nothing, and the export natural gas to foreign Countries so that they can generate electricity with our gas. Hmmmm.

Funny other Countries can use this gas for electricity generation, however people in BC seem unable to grasp that concept. If we had natural gas plants producing electricity here, we would still get some royalty money, and we would create a large number of long term jobs.

There is no hurry to sell of this gas. What we have here is a con job by the Liberal Government to produce some short term jobs and basically sell us out.

I think Palopu has it right. When we first embarked on large scale hydro-electric developments on the Peace and Columbia Rivers, WAC Bennett had those developments structured so WE would have low-cost electric power as WE needed it for decades into the future.

That was to be our natural advantage, one that allowed our industries to pay better wages than our foreign competitors could, yet still be able to undersell them in the markets of the world.

Dave Barrett wrecked that, when one of his first moves as Premier was to double electricity rates to industries here. Later Premiers, whatever their Party, never went back to the WAC Bennett idea.

The NDP under Glenn Clark thought it better to continue collecting money from the Americans for Columbia generated power than to take that power back and use it here to keep our electricity costs down. While that idiot Campbell seemed to think it was some kind of economic sin that any British Columbian should get our own power at anything less than ‘world price’. Now we’re about to do the same thing with natural gas. Which would make far more sense to use here to generate low cost power for ourselves, as needed, rather than embarking on a mega-project that’ll just put us back on the same old inflationary treadmill we’ve been on before, with the added disadvantage of none of that power lowering our rates here.

The LNG export game is the same one that we’ve played, and lost, too many times before. Those Asian buyers are experts at getting a whole host of countries with some particular resource they want all hooked on the prospects of an endless market for that resource. The country with the LNG salivates at the prospects of never ending prosperity right around the corner. Every one of them. Then when all the developments come on-line and it’s suddenly a buyer’s market instead of the promised seller’s one, the race to the bottom gets underway in earnest. Just look at some of the other resources that we were going to pave our road to riches with. Remember northeast coal? We were competing against our on south-east coal on that one. Pulp and paper? Didn’t take long before we were down to trying to export chips instead on that one. Copper concentrates? Molybdenum? Now it’s LNG. If it ever does go, just watch what WE have to pay in INCREASED heating bills to warm our own homes or fuel our own industries.

We have an abundance of low cost hydro electric power which is cheaper than gas. Those burning gas do not have hydro. We are not flooding all the peace farmland, a tiny itty bit. Our hydro power lets us buy surplus thermal at night for dirt cheap then sell the power back at a markup during the day. That is why we are called the white Arabs.

Our cost to ourselves is going up because of the 65 billion in contracts to the IPP’s then on top of that spend another 10 billion to build site c to back up the IPP’S. Christy was going to look into those contracts but was told to back off and not a peep since. Too many liberal friends making money off those things.

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