We had some other people who submitted nomination papers and it takes a lot of resources to go through the nomination process and to have a nomination contest,

In other words no white males need apply, not here or any where else in BC.

She’s got it all . Finally some one with credentials for leadership.

Odds of Mr. Zimmer showing up to debate with Ms. Dickie on his performance and that of his goverment?

Haha, I know. I laughed too. Our dear leader doesn’t let his yes men debate.

Still don’t know what bobbys credentials are or what he’s done . But he does think that stamping a (CN) on a gun costs 200 $ per gun . Totally whipped and gagged . Dick sold tires .

Harper has told all his minions running to avoid any debates as since the Cons have done nothing good for Canada they would be destroyed easily.

Mention a positive news item involving a first nations person and you can bet someone will make a snide, bigoted remark, eh furtree?

Once again we get the Harper Carpers sniveling about all the bad things that the Conservatives have done.

All it takes to list the accomplishments of those running against Zimmer are a stubby pencil, and a short piece of paper.

The left of centre parties are long on hyperbole, and short on accomplishments. To bad there wasn’t a Masters Degree in bitching, bellyaching, and complaining. The left would have lots of degree’s.

What has Zimmer done for his constituents since becoming MP and what were his accomplishments prior to becoming MP?

Yes Palopu we are such a small demographic . 61 % of the population find him repugnant and uncanadian .

Fate. Why don’t you ask Zimmer that question, or better still some of the people in his riding? Do you expect people on this site to be up to speed on what has been done in the Peace River, Ft Nelson, Ft St John, Dawson Creek, Chetwynd, etc; etc;

What has Cullen done for his riding. What has Mulcair done for his riding. What has May done for her riding. ??

Conservatives have been elected in PG Peace River Riding for the past 20 years, so they must be doing something. Not only have they been elected, but they have been elected by some of the biggest majorities in all of Canada.

Wake up and smell the roses.

Even Mrs. Universe finds him repugnant .

So…nothing. Got it.

I’m not in those other ridings, I’m in Zimmer’s, along with half of PG. Last I checked, 250 encompassed all the areas in his riding as well so I would hope some people on this site would be able to shed some light on what he’s done. I’m not aware of him accomplishing anything for us, his constituents.

You were focussed on what the other candidates accomplished. I’d suggest that Ms. Dickie has accomplished at lot more (becoming chief of Fort Nelson first nations) than Mr. Zimmer did (a teacher) prior to becoming MP.

I can’t ask Mr. Zimmer, he wont participate in debates.

That’s really a big joke Fate. If you can’t approach your MP and ask him questions, then your the problem. Most people I know can talk to their MP anytime they chose as long as they are making realistic inquiries. Using the debate issue is a feeble excuse.

I suggest you get little from Zimmer, because you are a card carrying NDP’er or a Greenie, and have never made an effort.

List the accomplishments! Don’t be shy! What better time than at election time! Let’s have it!

Fate:” I’m not aware of him accomplishing anything for us, his constituents. ”

He accomplished supplying me with mail, this being the usual Harper allowed *news* but useful for lining the bottom of the bird cage.

You guys are so lazy. You want to sit on your butt’s and have someone else give you the list of accomplishments of members of parliament.

I strongly suggest that you look it up yourselves,. Every MP has a site, and every site lists the accomplishments.

Lets quit using the NDP tactic of having someone else do the work, and for once do it yourself.

I will give you one accomplishment to chew on. 2011 election results.

Zimmer Con, 23,946
Boone NDP 9,876
Crowley Grn 2,301
Levine Lib 2,008

So it seems that he is accomplished in the art of butt kicking.

Accomplished in the art of butt kicking. I wonder if he uses that on his CV?

Hey Pal your ratings are in the dumper better come up with some solid info. We don’t have to ask Zimmy for anything he would have to ask Harperman what to say.

Have any of you listened to the “Harperman” song. Gave you the url on Friday but it appears 250 was not that impressed. You should hear the song it tells us all what Harper has accomplished during his term in office.
Cheers

Let the shit fly and lets see were the votes land in this election, Harper has and would continue to run this country into the ground both economically, internationally and nationally. His agenda is his own and cares less about Canada or the people and the results will show this on Oct 19th

ammonra Wednesday, September 2, 2015 @ 2:48 PM

Mention a positive news item involving a first nations person and you can bet someone will make a snide, bigoted remark, eh furtree?
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You totally misunderstood my comment ammonra. My reference was in regards to the Affirmative Action invoked by the NDP approx. 10-15 years ago, which is reverse discrimination. In other words males not welcome particularly white males, learn a little history ammonra, may save you from spewing your spittle all over your keyboard.

steph 100. Nice to see you have the ability to see into the future.

You should get yourself a tent, a crystal ball, and travel with a carnival, at least then you could make a buck or two on your predictions.

Retired 02. Small things amuse small minds. Enjoy yourself.

My reference was in regards to the Affirmative Action invoked by the NDP approx. 10-15 years ago, which is reverse discrimination. In other words males not welcome particularly white males

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Don’t worry, the Reformers balance it out ;)

Zimmer is the only MP that never responded to any of my calls or emails. Jay Hill and Frank O. were easy to contact and helpful.

The story is about the nomination of Dickie and as such does no one else find it a little strange about the way she got the nomination. Perhaps they need to change the name to the New Undemocratic Party….not going through the normal procedure to pick a standard bearer for the party because all that democratic stuff is just to hard and uses up resources. What a crock of you know what!!

What kind of pressure tactics, arm twisting, cajoling or even threats were used to get the other people interested in becoming the nominee to step aside-STFU and support Dickie. Further who decided she was the one to get the nod? Putin politics at it’s finest/

BTW As of March 2015 she was still a band councillor acording to the government website

FORT NELSON FIRST NATION
SCHEDULE OF REMUNERATION AND EXPENSES
CHIEF AND COUNCILLORS
FOR THE YEAR ENDED MARCH 31, 2015

“Kathi Dickie, Councillor 12 60,554 16,356 76,910” …12 months….60k salary…16k expenses 77k total

Don’t make assumptions, furtree, I understood your reference perfectly well. The affirmative action in the provincial NDP doesn’t really have anything to do with this election. However, even in that you are spouting nonsense. There are plenty of males, including white males, in the NDP who have been elected as MLAs. Look at the photos in the government of BC web site and see for yourself.

The federal NDP leader is a male and so are about half the candidates, slightly more I believe. In other words, those running for the NDP are male or female in about the same proportions as the population and so are representative of Canadian society, more so than any of the other parties. There are also plenty of white candidates running for the NDP, although I don’t understand what someone’s skin colour has to do with their capabilities. Perhaps you could tell us all what you had in mind with your criticism that there were not enough white people running, because that is what your comment infers.

Sparrow if you look at the others you will come to the same conclusion they did . She’s the most qualified to lead . And I have to agree with you on the wage front . She is way too under paid but then again she’s more interested in serving others than serving herself . She could have made much more in the private sector .

Sparrow said, “What kind of pressure tactics, arm twisting, cajoling or even threats were used to get the other people interested in becoming the nominee to step aside”

Do you have any evidence that any of that took place? Just because you can dream up nasty nonsense does not mean that it has taken place, it just speaks volumes about the contents of your mind. Sometimes people do put the cause before their own ambitions. It is called altruism, maybe you have heard of it.

NDP riding president tossed for urging voters to back Green candidate

http://www.timescolonist.com/ndp-riding-president-tossed-for-urging-voters-to-back-green-candidate-1.2048556

ammonra obviously your confused here on the issue, you can turn this, spin it for what ever way you wish, but it is the NDP and only the NDP who have implemented this policy of affirmative action, in other words reverse discrimination. Female first choice before male. Tell me how many males were in the running when the decision to acclaimed Dickie was made, were there any males even allowed to submit their names? This discussion has squat to do with race it’s gender I refer to, so try not to muddy the waters with you assumptions.

I get it now you’re a sexist , not a racist . Yikes . Big difference ?

Albatross you NDPers will try to spin every thing , years ago a big time NDPer tried to screw me over, he failed. Have been cautious, suspicious of all you Cadillac socialist ever since.

@ataloss

So you are against a fair and open democratic process to decide who should carry the NUP banner in an election. Why let all the card carrying of the party in the riding decide when the few in the riding exec can make the decision for all the rest.

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The NUP is party that decides who is the best person for certain positions not by their skill and the content of their character but by the content of their underwear…now that is sexist!
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@ammonra

When you have a riding president saying
” so basically we boiled it down and we spoke to the people and they made the decision that they didn’t want to go ahead”

Two obvious questions. Who is “we”? What was said?
Democracy,I don’t think so . If Dickie is the best candidate it is up to all party members to decide not the “chosen few in the politburo”

I presume “we” refers to those people democratically elected to deal with NDP affairs in that Riding. I wasn’t present during the process, so I don’t know what was said. You weren’t present either, so you don’t know what was said and you are allowing your prejudices to show through. That is presumably why you refer to the “politburo” in a sleezy attempt to infer some kind of relationship between undemocratic communism and social democracy. That kind of malicious attack on political opponents, while quite typical of Harper’s supporters, demeans and degrades the democratic process in Canada.

Reading all the comments above, there is a definite commonality; all of you seem unhappy, why else would you continually attack your fellow ‘opinionators’, wait, I know, you are emulating the politicians, especially Trudeau and Mulcair. Those two guys take the cake when it comes to whining about Harper. I don’t care for Mr. Harper either, but I could not bring myself to vote liberal or ndp. Those two maroons vying for the top job both seem to have only two channels, one to denigrate the sitting government and its leader, the other to make outlandish funding announcements and extravagant promises.
Modern politics disgusts me.

One last thing:
“And so basically we boiled it down and we spoke to the people and they made the decision that they didn’t want to go ahead with the nomination in favour of Kathi. It was a unanimous decision.”
Did they mean to say that? The other candidates did not want to go ahead with the nomination in favour of Kathi?

;)
metalman.

If the Conservatives put a candidate forward with the same process, the leftards would go mental. But who cares, she is a token name on the ballot. Thanks for coming out.

Its to bad the ndp didn’t take this riding seriously because Zimmer is not a strong incumbent. Zimmer would be hard pressed to run a good game of dodge ball in his gym class much less the hard ball of Ottawa politics.

I think nominating a fringe candidate from the outback of Fort Nelson is akin to a run for the protest vote, and a pass on a serious run in this election. To win in this riding I think a candidate has to at least have a strong connection to the population base of the riding… sure Dickie is popular in Fort Nelson, but that represents maybe 5% of the population base in the riding.

She will still have to win PG 800km to the south where half the votes will be cast, and I fail to see how she brings this to the table. I look forward to seeing what her campaign will be constituted of.

I think if the ndp wasn’t serious about winning then they should have stayed away from splitting the vote.

So far I liked what the libertarian candidate had to say, but even his campaign is short on specifics.

I want a candidate that can ask lots of questions and not presume to know all the answers… someone that can represent the whole riding in all its diversity.

I’d like to see the Pine Pass added to the National Park network and someone that can advocate and work on behalf of a rail extension to Alaska and possibly Asia… someone that understands the resource industry and its cycles and how to mitigate those cycles through value added diversification and building a sustainable economy.

I’d like to see someone that understands Canadian values (like democracy, rule of law, and equal opportunity free enterprise values) and makes a stand for those values first and foremost in all their dealings both domestic and international.

Democracy only works when those that vote have the information they require to make informed votes… and so far this is what is lacking the most in 2015… sadly once more.

@ammonra

social democracy?How do you figure that? The absolute cornerstone of the democratic process One Person/One Vote was spat on, shat on and cast aside so that Vladimir Fox-McGuire and her cronies could decide who the nominee would be.

Wow sparrow, you need to chill. You have no idea what happened in the nomination process, you have no idea what the conversations were, who initiated them or who made what decisions. You’re making some grandiose assumptions based on your obvious dislike for the NDP.

Maybe you should get on your high horse and talk to Mr. Zimmer about his support for his parties “fair elections act” if you’re so concerned about the democratic process.

Eagleone. Zimmer played in the BC Rugby Union in the Fraser Valley, where he coached varsity rugby. So he might be able to run a game of dodge ball.

PS: How are you at dodge ball, or rugby, or any other sport for that matter. Seems your main exercise is running your fingers over your keyboard, and perhaps reading.

So according to a bio I just read by using Google, Kathi Dickie, a teacher ( Fate) , with a liberal arts education background, who’s accomplishments include being and I quote:

“Involved for over 20 years in First Nations education in one form or another”

And

“Serving fourth term on a First Nation Council – not consecutively”

Etc.

And according to the bio I read and the article above has no formal education about, nor industry experience in the oil & gas industry but seems to have good knowledge about it and environmental issues? How, as an activist?

Sorry, but she doesn’t fit the bio of someone I would want to lead the area. But then again a bunch of freaks and weirdos just got elected ( ie: fell surprisingly into their new jobs by vote splitting default ) in Alberta.

Anything can happen I guess.

Fate is it possible that you and ammonra are joined at the head and share a brain? you both emulate each when you suggest “You have no idea what happened in the nomination process, you have no idea what the conversations were, who initiated them or who made what decisions.”
It’s clearly stated in the story of what occurred at the NDP nomination. You both behave as typical Cadillac Socialist, you the old adage Don’t do as we do but as we say. Phonies the lot of you.

@BCGrog so what did Bob have that got him the votes? He was a teacher with zero experience in the oil and gas industry. Is that someone you want leading the area? Did you vote for him? Has he done anything for you or this riding? I’m genuinely curious.

Don’t get me wrong, I fully expect Bob to get voted in again, in spite of his qualifications and his complete lack of representation of our region. He will get voted in on his party, nothing more. Bob does not represent our area in parliament, he represents his party.

Palopu still hasn’t given us one thing Zimmer did for this riding, he’d rather deflect, shame and attack anyone that dares question him. Quite like our dear leader.

@Furtree It’s clearly stated in the story what occurred? Really?

How many people put in papers to be candidates? Were they all successful in the party vetting? Once they were vetted (were they?) did they then look at the other candidates and decide they didn’t want to run? What was the timing of that? Who approached them to step aside? Was it done at a meeting? How many people were at that meeting? Who were the other candidates? Did they have a chance of winning the nomination? etc.

Fate , please stop I’m almost starting to feel sorry for you, please seek some help.

Furtree, I know debate is hard when you’re wrong, so keep attacking intelligence rather than making good arguments. You can win.

Zimmer the gym teacher from trinity college. Maybe he can pray for a recovery . In silence of course . I wonder where Chris Alexander is hiding . I wonder how he feels about rejecting the little drowned Syrian three year old boy . The little guy picked the wrong religion is my guess.

Albatross, typical confused NDPer , just can’t keep the subject on track, always wondering off the rails. Your stooping beyond low by bringing up the loss of that little boy, which is not the fault of the Canadians which his aunt stated on the news not long ago.

I’m really glad to see both sparrow and furtree committed to democracy. It is refreshing to see some Harperite Conservatives value the principles of democratic voting, especially in light of the attempt by a Harperite to interfere in the voting during the last election by deliberately sending people to the wrong place to vote. Perhaps both of you could lobby your respective constituency associations and recommend they set up a procedure to ensure that doesn’t happen again.

ammonra-fate thanks for the debate.