The turning point in the campaign was when the Australian wizard came on board and touched an innate Canadian nerve ramping up the dog whistle politics. The ndp never can adapt when they are faced with this type of politics, because they are too wrapped up in the politically correct answer, and thus come across as missing the mark looking weak.

Canadians understand for the most part that all of us are ultimately influenced by and are a collection of how we treat others. Harper just never did get it. Canadians tuned into this and the election was no longer about the economy, or dog whistle politics, but rather this undercurrent that Canadians took to their ballot box and addressed it in their own ways.

Justin Trudeau was johnny on the spot with his contrast to the conservative message of fears by his preaching inclusive respect and collaboration as a country.

Harper broke Ronald Reagan’s first rule of politics in that people vote for hope over fear.

Dog whistle politics – really? Have you been watching Scandal Eagleone?

I want to rejoice that Harper is out, but feel so ashamed that our two ridings are so conservative entrenched.

Actually Eagleone, the “Australian Wizzard” had very little to do with the Conservative Campaign. The Country was ready for change; a huge hunk of voters have known no other government (as eligible voters) and were inspired by Trudeau’s message of change.

Agreed P Micheal. But it was the ndp that lead in the polls until late September when the response to the niqab debate, old stock Canadian comment, and the barbaric practices hotline cost the ndp over 20 percentage points in Quebec. From that point forward the ndp bled votes to the liberals through strategic voting initiatives and they never recovered.

I don’t think the Harper conservatives ever did recover from the omnibus budget, Mike Duffy revelations into Harper’s character and such… most everyone seen the end of his rule coming, but the battle for the most part was who would replace the conservatives.

I think we are in trouble…
not because of what party, who won or do didn’t. just the fact we have another majority government.

well we will have to well paid representatives who will be doing very little now.
Hope they have good crossword subscriptions

IMO bcracer has, so far, been the one to hit the nail on the head. Best case scenario would have been Lib minority, PG ridings electing either LIB or NDP candidates, giving our us some type of voice. Any majority government seems to cause problems and eventualy wears out their welcome, however, it should be said that at least a majority will produce results (love or hate the results). Worst case scenario Majority Lib or NDP and our riding stays Con…nice work…i guess the silver lining will be hopefuly the decriminalization and/or legalization issue :D

Hopefuly we will see more of Nathan Cullen…and less of Tomas Mulcair. Sadly that will be this regions strongest voice even though he is a riding to the west.

Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2015 @ 6:13 AM by sqrlly with a score of 2

Hopefuly we will see more of Nathan Cullen…and less of Tomas Mulcair. Sadly that will be this regions strongest voice even though he is a riding to the west.

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If there’s a camera or a microphone nearby you’ll see Cullen.

This region hasn’t mattered in the grand scheme of Canadian politics ever.

Canadians had a choice in this election between a pitbull, and a cocker spaniel . They chose the spaniel.

Having said that, I am more comfortable with a Liberal majority over the next four years, than a minority. A minority would have led us into another election is less than two years, and frankly that would be too much.

It was highly unlikely from the get go that Harper could win four straight elections. He did however win three in a row, and contrary to some of the carpers on this site he will go down in history as being a good Prime Minister. If your going to lose, then this was the election to do it. The Conservatives will be an effective opposition, and our friend Mr. Trudeau will have is hands full.

The best part of losing this election, is the fact that we can now sit back and see what the Liberals can actually do. Personally I would say that amounts to **not much**.

As for Mulcair. ?? He will stay on for no other reason than he needs the job.

TODAY we start a new Canada, Harper has even resigned.
“The devil you know could be better than the devil you don’t know”
In this case I think we are better but only time and cool heads will tell.
As for our riding I guess we can’t expect to much as we voted back in Conservative even know when Dick left he had left 500k expense claim.
Forward into history

Palopu I agree its better to have a majority.. as for your thoughts on Harper being a good prime minister is your thoughts.. mine .. are opposite..

Now with the Liberals steering the ship lets see what they can do… Lets hope they can be one thing harper never was.. HONEST.

Mr. Doherty needs to be very clear that while he did get a small ‘majority’, it was thin in numbers and well below the 50% mark. Many more people voted against him than for him.

Folks are expressing concern that we will not have the ear of government now that our guy is in opposition – well frankly, Dick Harris didn’t have the ear of his own government. He was a backbencher with a poor attendance record and clearly did not impress the power brokers in the Conservative party. He was on the sidelines his entire 22 years as our representative.

Mr. Harris was alleged to be a hard worker – I saw lots of hard work from his office staff, not so much from him. Mr. Doherty is going to have to work very hard to prove he is not Mr. Harris. We need more and better from our MP.

When you have the liberal left media constantly giving out miss information, rewriting the facts and ignoring irregularities of the liberals knowing the general population will not check the facts this is the result.

with his fathers and mothers dna I don’t think honesty will come out in the spotlight. But hey give the kid a chance and if you smoke enough weed anything is possible, with a vivid imagination?

And you think that Harper is honest ….??? ….LOL

Continuing the good old ad hominem attacks from the right, what else can one expect.

When you have the conservative right media constantly giving out miss information, rewriting the facts and ignoring irregularities of the conservatives knowing the general population will not check the facts this is the result.

Ahhhhh the Bigot bros…mutt & ice…..nice pair..[puke]yeah your mailroomboy left quite the mess $150 BILLION,he a gutless conservaturd.
harper should be up on so many Charges that they would need to open old KP…jus for him..
Tell me what other pm has called out the Chief justice like he did cause he did not like a ruling???
his way or no way ….NOOOOOO..who ever is in charge answers to US…When I find the fix for StOOpid I will let ya know!!
Opps must have been those premaked Ballots…darn I new it..next target bz….

Our riding is exactly why a new voting system is needed. Majority of voters did not choose Todd in Cariboo-Prince George. If we used an equal representation model, Tracy would be our new MP

Canadians had a choice in this election between an American Pit Bull Terrier and an Australian Sheep Dog.

The sheep dog is going to be bringing the flock back together again safe and sound.

We had enough of the Pit Bull turning on its owners.

Palopu:”The best part of losing this election, is the fact that we can now sit back and see what the Liberals can actually do. Personally I would say that amounts to **not much**.”

Gracious losers are hard to find, one in a thousand, at best.

All our major newspapers are owned by two USA hedge funds . So I’d like to know which ones are deemed left wing media ? Big Left wing media is just another rightie myth . How is it with all these left wing medias twisting the truth that pg endorsed little Stevie blunder for another four years ? I put it down to pure unadulterated stupidity . On the other hand it’s very amusing . You have made pg even more irrelevant than its been for ten years . Congratulations on your big win PG . Canada won big . It’ll be fun to watch the frankenparty turn on itself .

Yeah …speaking of Losers…..jus like harper, the gutless wonder…..to skip out ….it belongs in PRISON…..I will be waiting for them at the Gates of Hell, to hear him scream all the way to the Bottom……the christian-reform-alliance…CRAP for short…remember!
Lets get MY Canada back in order…on ward JT..Puff,Puff….and you do not get none!

I too am glad Liberal majority. I saw Liberal propped up by NDP as worst case scenario. I’m hoping he keeps his pot promise. It’ll be interesting to see if there is a decrease in crime. As for some worrying about him being a wimp – seems to me in the celebrity boxing match it was he who kicked Patrick Brazeau’s butt. Honestly of the 3 guys to run the country, he seems to be the most human to me. I’m looking forward to the next 4 years. It would have been nice if we could’ve elected one Liberal MP in our area, but as others have said, we’ve never had representation in this area anyway – even with MP’s in government. If anything, the Liberals might pay a little attention to us now that they see one of the ridings is winnable.

I would rather be bitten by a spaniel than a pit bull.

Rejoice (or gloat?) Liberal Party lovers, while the topic of victory is in the limelight.
It is no secret to anyone that Liberal Party loyalties are to Central, and now Eastern Canada.
Heck, Trudeau even gave his speech of triumph en francais not really of concern, as he is a francophone, but he is now the leader of the entire country, and the majority of us speak English as our first language.
I take that as a sign of where his deepest loyalties lie.
I believe that Western Canada is now relegated to second place in Federal government priorities, at best.
Of course any income from resource industry will be welcome in Central Canada.
In closing, I think the next four years will be very interesting;
Will Mr. Trudeau ‘keep’ his campaign promises?
only his shadow knows;)
metalman.

Leaders from across the world are congratulating Trudeau except Vlad Putin . He must be sleeping in , relaxed , lines off his face for the first time in ten years . His Harper nightmare is over .

“But hey give the kid a chance and if you smoke enough weed anything is possible, with a vivid imagination?”

Not sure if you are trying to be funny or you are ignorant to the results of smoking pot..

Harper wanted to have everyone who needed pain medication where Pot would work get hooked on opiats with horrendous side affects. The big pharmaceutical companies are against pot too…why..cuts into their income… Use a natural occuring weed over something brewed in a lab..how outrageous is that..

How about let the person who needs pain medication decide what they want to use.. give them a list of possibilities..with ALL the side affects and let them decide what to put in their body…

This will stop your pain..but you may want to commit suicide, have liver failure, nose bleeds, etc.. or smoke this..and side affects are feeling tired and the munchies.. what would you pick ????

Thanx P Val….Oh the Ignorance of cannabis….and it is all there at the tips of your fingers.
Wonders of the Net.
for those who need to read till their eyes bleed…Dr Rapheal Mechoulam,jus Google and you shall read,this man is the Godfather of Cannabis.,,,,
And the mess [Mr Prime minister justin Trudeau…sounds good too!]
has to clean up after the harpertiod….it may take 4-8yrs to sort out to..
doubl whammy..JT win and harpertiod history…Whew!

Good points P Val, Palopu, and ski, i guess a majority does have more benefits than i first thought, thanks for the perspective :)

PGJohn. If Tracy had won the election with the same number of votes would you still be in favour of equal representation???

Things will probably get quiet on this site for a while now that the election is over, and Harper is not there to give some people a reason to get up in the morning.

They will have to find a new target to carp at. Not sure who that might be as we now will not have another election at least 2017 (Provincial) 2018 Municipal, and 2019 Federal. All quiet on the election front.

Things could start to change when Trudeau ok’s a pipeline, or doesn’t make any significant changes to C-51, however we will have to wait and see. Might be some issue with his immigration policy also.

What Metalman wrote above is all too likely to be the truth. The Trudeau the Second Liberals will treat BC just like WAC Bennett said they did when he was Premier and Trudeau the First the PM. “Like a goblet to be drained.”

I’m curious as to how the Zimdoh duet are going to make gains for their ridings . Somebody said they are going to hold Trudeaus feet to the fire . How are they going to do that ? How are two ideologically trapped caricatures going to deal with the new realities ? They won’t and PG will not gain anything from them . Lucky for PG Trudeau is not a vindictive monster like the one just shown the door . I would prefer a trap door but a door will do . He’s probably already getting ready to warm a seat at barrick gold and or suncor .

Great the region gets to spend the next four years in “park” while everything around us will be changing….

Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2015 @ 1:04 PM by Professional with a score of 0

Great the region gets to spend the next four years in “park” while everything around us will be changing….

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Change is only going to happen in the big urban centers, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, etc. because that’s where the vote is. Doesn’t really matter which party is in power, those of us who live in the more rural areas have always been and always will be second class citizens. They don’t need our votes, just our resources and our money.

@socredible
The guy has been PM elect for less than 24 hours at least allow him to get the keys to 24 Sussex before jumping down his throat. To criticize someone on conjecture rather than fact is meaningless. There could be ample opportunity down the road we will just have to wait and see.
The Conservative re-election plan was a disaster right from the get go and have no one to blame but themselves.

@Palopu

“Harper is not there to give some people a reason to get up in the morning.”” They will have to find a new target to carp at. ”

You would have to include yourself in that number as the most prolific poster to this site during the campaign.

” They will have to find a new target to carp at.” How about city yard garbage transfer station:P

We have to remember that socredible is the fella who posted that the high interest rate peaks of the 1980 were the fault of Pierre Trudeau.

The fact of the matter is that the interest rates followed the same pattern in the USA.

When one has people with blinders on, who making ridiculous posts like that without providing the context, one has the Harper’s of this world all over again. They can only see the world through their eyes without any context but their limited scope.

BTW, it is one of the early signs of the onset of cognitive deficiency.

Further to what I stated above;
See the story on this site (CBC) reporting what Mr. Ralph Goodale (MP- sask.) says about the now hon. Mr. J. Trudeau, according to Ralph, Western Canada may have a chance………

What axman said:
“those of us who live in the more rural areas have always been and always will be second class citizens. They don’t need our votes, just our resources and our money. ”
Most accurate, in my opinion, which, if added to $3.00 or so, will get you a coffee somewhere;).

metalman.

Ataloss:”Somebody said they are going to hold Trudeaus feet to the fire . How are they going to do that ?”

It is a worn out platitude, just like *holding them accountable*!

When one is in opposition to a majority government one has no power to do anything except yell with apparent indignation at the government!

Just watch question period!

M: How does Prime Minister H explain this obvious failure of trade negotiations with China?

H: (buttoning his jacket) The weather is reportedly changing for the better in Nunavut and they are hunting seals again as we speak.

M: I repeat the same question….

H: (buttoning his jacket) I noticed that parking has become a lot cheaper in downtown Montreal.

M: Let me be more precise and ask the same question again with more
urgency….

H: (buttoning his jacket) I have made up my mind not to answer repetitive questions for which I have already given a detailed
explanation.

Speaker: This concludes question period.

Good one PrinceGeorge. There is one thing you can do in opposition – come up with really good ideas to solve problems and then state them publicly. Governments being what they are, will never use a good idea if it came from the opposition, so they’ll use a worse idea instead, and then when election time comes around, you can point out your good idea, their bad idea, and hope you get elected. I hope I live long enough to hear a Prime Minister say – Mr. Speaker, the leader of the opposition is absolutely correct, his idea is better than ours, we’re going to that instead.

It appears that the Liberal & lefties on this site don’t think that Conservative supporting voters in our riding shouldn’t be able to exist…let alone keep electing Conservative Mp’s.

I say that because of all the rude and obnoxious comments surrounding the facts that Zimmer has been elected each time with a huge majority, Harris was elected 7 times with very large majorities, and now because Doherty was elected as a Conservative,the lefties are again angry that those brainwashed Conservative voters keep winning elections in these two Ridings.

Well I suggest that conservative voters have just as much right to turn out and vote their choice as any other voter in our constituencies.

So I suggest the liberal lefties should just suck it up and realize that these two ridings have been conservative for decades and it ain’t about to change for a very long time.

And for me, that’s just fine

It may be fine for you, and that is alright. The day will come when the middle and the moderate left join forces in a common party – representing more than two thirds of the Canadian spectrum which is permanently non right as proven in one election after the other. Then you will be doing the sucking it up for a very long time.

Remember one thing, it is a rare occasion hen an idea comes from an MP. The ideas actually come from the carious Ministries, via the Deputy Minister which is a paid staff position as are all the others.

There will be some Deputy Ministers who will be relived of their duties and replaced. That is what we need to watch.

The same as at City Hall, the entire work environment and attitude will change in most departments of government. It is those people who know the details and what can be done and should be done. Dismantling stuff and recreating it takes time and money. But it should be a happier and more productive workforce now …. and the same will happen when the government changes again in 4 years, 8 years, 12 years, whenever …..

THAT is the inefficiency that we need to learn to deal with more effectively.

And the same works for the staff that MPs have in their home riding as well as in their Ottawa office. If that staff is excellent, the MP will likely be excellent. If not … we get squat…

hen = when
carious = various

still no self-editing function … oh well.

Ataloss wrote: “I’m curious as to how the Zimdoh duet are going to make gains for their ridings.”

So when was the last time we received anything from Ottawa which was out of the ordinary, even when the local MP was on the governing party’s side of the house?

I can recall that the region, which is more than just the two ridings, got a promise of $100million each year over 10 years. That stopped after $200 was given. I could use a term for that kind of giving used to be used but which would be politically incorrect these days.

The feds also gave repayable loans to improve YXS. YXS is fed owned and operated by a local society. The FEDS paid money to improve their property and as they were doing that they received money from the province as well as IPG. The Society charges user fees for their day to day operations as well as capital improvements. So, on the federal books, YXS should be shown as an asset, and the loan as an expense with the repayments as annual income.

Is YXS operating in that fashion rather than under the Federal Transportation Ministry? I have not seen a cost-benefit analysis of that.

When one sees fed money here, it is typically associated with a two or three way funded project which is typically locally initiated and cost-shared under common practices procedures.

Even cost sharing of a controversial PAC, for instance, does not come this way unless the City and the Province are interested in pushing for it. The Feds are not going to push for that just because a local MP is pushing for it. It is locally driven by citizens, by municipal governments, by regional governments and by provincial governments. If an MP is going to do anything, they must have a solid backing from those governments and the people. Such an initiative is not going to be started by an MP. It needs to be started with the Mayor.

That will not be much different whether the MP sits on the governing side of the house or not.

Now, if a Fed operation such as FPInovations, DFO, NRC, Defence, VA, etc. were to open/close a regional office in this part of the world, that would be a different matter. At the moment the contentious matter seems to be services to Veterans. I suggest that there are other areas as well, such as Immigration. We need to have a close look at the quality of the Services Canada functions we have in PG and region. At the moment it is inadequate, in my opinion.
Like IPG, the MPs have nothing they can point their finger at which would not have happened anyway.

There is no Devine Intervention through the offices of MPs, no matter which party they are affiliated with.

“CRAP” is this the Party with so many Members who believe the World is only 6000 Years old?

From Axman “those of us who live in the more rural areas have always been and always will be second class citizens.”
So true. We don’t have BC Ambulance helicopters to save our injured, they won’t come to the interior to harvest kidneys or other organs for transplants, we are in fact isolated from a lot of things the larger centers have.

Palopu, I disagree. I think a minority government keeps politics in check, it’s similar to government being run by two political parties rather than one. It would have been better had Harper been in minority, perhaps he would have pulled in his horns.

>>> notsofast

I think you are taking the protests the wrong way. As I understand it some are concerned that because we have MPs who are on the opposite side of the house now, that we will not get any attention paid to us.

I just wrote my thoughts about that. It does not matter who we vote for as far as their politics go. We need someone here who can be effective as an MP.

Zimmer has had 4 years. Jay Hill had many more years. I do not recall anything coming our way because they managed to convince Ottawa we needed something. As I said, like IPG, show us what you did that cause things to change for the better.

Frank Oberle from 1972 to 1993 as a PC, at least became a Cabinet Minister in 1985 and served in Cabinet until his retirement in 1993.

What exactly he may have brought to the region as a result of that, I do not know. Perhaps someone else would know. I know we did not manufacture or design anything for the Canadarm in this region, even though he was Science Minister at the time. The small town of Smith Falls did, however, get some benefit from that, not that Oberle would have had any real say in that.

Perhaps we need some awareness sessions here in the basics of government operations to define what an MP can actually do to effect change in his/her riding. Then deal with what the electors in the riding want the MP to do. Finally, what the MP has discovered after a year or more, what he/she can actually do.

I do not think that the three points of view will align very well.

The question then will become, what can we as citizens, in concert with the MP, do about that?

I think Trudeau in his speech said something about working together. Let us take him by his words. Todd may just be the guy to do that with.

gopg2015, to add to your reply to notsofast (which you just beat me to the punch on!) part of the problem is also with our electoral system. Look at the numbers, there is no question that more people DID NOT vote conservative than those who did, and that’s the issue with our current first-past-the-post system. I hope Trudeau sticks to his word on electoral reform because we need some sort of change in our neck of the woods.

Just like how many people disagreed that the Conservatives had a majority with 37% of the vote, I don’t think the Liberals should have a majority with 40% of the vote. At least with some sort of proportional representation system we can put our second and third choices so at least the person that the majority (more than 50% in this context) wants more than the others can be elected.

I’m not a conservative voter, but I’m happy that they all showed up to elect Doherty and Zimmer… at least they went out and said their piece. I just wish we weren’t stuck with MPs that only 35% of us wanted.

the City’s Talktober …..whether it will be effective, we shall see. But it is the right thing to do if we are going to have a more open government. It takes some work not only on the part of City Hall, but also on the part of the community. Posting on here will not do. Show up, show your face, and talk around the tables set up. Then see what happens.

There is nothing to say that an MP, starting with Todd since he is the new kid on the block, cannot do that as well. Gather people around him several times a year as an open invitation. He is now the MP for ALL of us, no matter what our political beliefs are. He might want to stream it into citizens with not special interests, special interest groups, businesses, etc. The one essentials is that those sessions would be public. They would not be private sessions with those who want to lobby for this or that. Those occur already and would continue.

The upside of all of this is that the control freak Harper has resigned as leader. So perhaps Doherty will be able to show us what he has got as representative of this riding, without being muzzled. Justin Trudeau strikes me as a fair man, and will give all MP’s consideration, regardless of party.
Let’s see what you can do Todd.

Sieg … I am not sure I am in full agreement with proportional voting …. a second choice, by any other name is still a second choice.

I can understand it if we would elect a president or PM. we do not. But for those countries that do, such as France, there is an initial vote and then there is a run off between the top two. There is a time for looking at the two candidates and hearing them and reflection on the new situation the voters are now looking at. That is not the case in a proportional voting system.

Finally, when one looks at who is seating in parliament and one were to ask the question of the people, “were you happy with the results”, there is no guarantee that the answer would be greater than 50% ho would say they were.

After all, is that not what we are thinking we would achieve with that? If not, then we might as well stay with what we have.

You got it right, lbear!!!!

When I look at the election results, I see a pretty significant distribution of Liberal seats throughout the country, with the exception of Alberta and Saskatchewan. It doesn’t strike me as a “the west is out” result, it strikes me as a more of an “Alberta and Saskatchewan voted the way they typically do” result.

Other than those two provinces (and there are even small exception there), there is red everywhere you look. BC, Manitoba, the territories, Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada. It was a route across the entire country, this was not some regional aberration. With that result, you can bet that the areas that voted Liberal are going to want representation and of course, they should get it. This goes for BC with 17 Liberal seats.

I also have hope that we will see a different approach to politics under Trudeau. Say what you want about him or his platform, but he never wavered from his campaign objectives. He ran a relatively clean and positive campaign, he didn’t flip flop and he defended his positions and stood his ground. He did not react to the negative attack ads, and he didn’t get sucked into that game. The maturity and discipline of his campaign was impressive and Harper and the Cons have to be in utter shock that their standard tactics did not work.

As for the Cons, they are a mess right now. I listened to the local talk radio this morning and people are still in shock, at least those that I would describe as the “reform party contingent” of the Conservatives. They were obviously frustrated that they lost to the Liberals and to top it off, they lost to someone they see as a punk kid with the last name Trudeau. It drives them absolutely bonkers. There were also many others calling in who were not surprised and who said they saw it coming because of how Harper had managed things over the last few years. There was a general feeling amongst these folks that he had more than worn out his welcome and that it was time to move on.

Where that moving on goes, who knows. The talk of new leaders came up and there were some that were honestly throwing Doug Ford’s name around, LOL. I predict we’ll see some major infighting as the progressives within the party try to wrestle control back, or at least try to move the party more to the centre than where Harper took it.

I think the result we saw last night speaks volumes as to the people’s acceptance for Harper’s brand of right wing politics. It’s my opinion that his minority governments held this in check to a large degree and it wasn’t until he got his majority that he pushed things further right. When Canadians saw that, including many from within his own party, they determined that things had gone too far. I think that also illustrates why the voter turnout was so high. As one conservative commentator said this morning, you can only slap people in the face so many times before they punch back.

Well, they sure punched back alright.

Best post on this site, NMG. Absolutely bang on!!!

Really hooping our veterans finally get the help they have deserved for so long.

I liked Palopu earlier analogy of Harper as a pit bull, wonder if he means one where they face an outright ban in a lot of communities,not allowed to run free in a bunch more and deeply distrusted by a majority of the remainder. On the positive side the breed does have a handful of stanch supporters:D

NMG trudeau did not have to react to negative adds as the liberal left media did it for him. Looks like you got sucked in by the media also.

seamutt, what liberal left media? As far as Newspapers go, most of them endorsed Harper and the Conservatives. Google Andrew Coyne too… he resigned after the National Post refused to post his editorial disagreeing with their endorsement of the Tories. Totally a liberal left move.

Newspapers and who they endorsed: http://globalnews.ca/news/2281623/whos-endorsing-whom-newspaper-editorial-boards-pick-their-parties/

The difference is that the “liberal” media outlets used facts, whereas the conservatives tried to scare us (a brothel and injection site on every corner!)

NMG – Hitler had a saying “If you tell a lie big enough and long enough people will believe it.” Harper was the subject of attack from the big media players. Such as CBC and CTV. They told enough lies about Mr. Harper that it appears you even believed them. At the end of the day. Harper won three consecutive elections. He governed for 10 years. He lost last night, but he kept his MP status, his party was not destroyed and are the official opposition with 99 seats. Harper still garnered 32% of the popular vote. It’s very rare that any government wins four elections in the row. Last time that happened was in the early 1900’s
So Harper has nothing to be ashamed about and will go down as on of Canada’s greatest PM

Justin Trudeau was shielded by the CBC and CTV networks. People will soon grow tired of Mr. Trudeau especially when their wallets and purses are plucked clean.

What lies Cheetos ? The truth about Harper was enough to turn any democrate of any stripes stomach . Just wait till Trudeau gets a hold of the books . Let’s hope he ( Stevie ) doesn’t stack the senate before he goes or some other heinous stain on his way out . If I were Justin and family , I’d do a really though cleaning of their old digs .

Poor R2 , he’s still laughing so hard he can’t type . Come on R2 think sad thoughts and stop ( Harper ) laughing . Oops Freuded again .

I’m Ataloss as to what defaming truth you speak of. Go ahead enlighten us as to all this defaming truth.

cheatoes….banged yer head agian I see…try ice!you must be a Bigot like him?liar like him? cheater like him?…mailroomboy is all he waz.
50 under investagation! all appointed by harperturd!
Wait till he gets called to TESTIFY at Duffy trial…He is not above the law like he thinks..
How many DEAD 18 yearolds you have in your DRIVEWAY?? he did and COVERED up!..Hmmmmmm,last one waz very lucky she made it to the hospital in time.Still $3.1 billion missing from from the coffers,you Must know where that went ..you so smart like a streetcar!Best is yet to come…150Billion dollar debit he leaves us with….if not more …again we’ll see!
I bet ya taught the kids well…….FYATHYRIO……heehaw.!

“Gracious losers are hard to find” taken from a post by PrinceGeorge earlier. Too true, but judging from the bile spewing from some I have read & heard in the last 24 hours, so are gracious winners.

Federal government closed not only the veterans office in PG, but also the immigration and passport office. And the others it seems move to different locations every second year and get folded every which way to Sunday.

It would be great if all offices were in one place and services restored to past levels in this city. Being that PG is a regional center far from any other regional center.