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Mixed News on Crime Stats for City

Thursday, February 18, 2016 @ 5:59 AM

Prince George, B.C.-  While the Prince George RCMP  saw  an increase in the number of files they handled last year over 2014,  there is some good news on the battle against crime in the city.

In his report  to be presented to Prince George City  Council on Monday Feb. 22nd,  Superintendent Warren Brown  notes  the detachment handled  39,312 files last year,  the highest number of files  since 2008 when  the  number was 39,601.

There were some increases, and decreases in  certain types of crime last year,  the worst being  murder.  With  four  murders in Prince George in 2015 ( three in the City,  one rural)  that’s a 300% increase over the one homicide  in 2014.

Here are some other numbers:

  • There was a 20% reduction in reported sexual assaults with 53 in  2015, compared to 66  the year  before.
  • Aggravated Assault/ Assault with Weapon:   241  last year,  down 10% from the year before.
  • Assault  – Common   563 reported in 2015,  down 9% from  2014.
  • There has been an increase in reported Break and Enters with 721 reported in 2015, compared to 591 in the previous year.
  • Theft of Vehicle (Over $5,000) were down 26% in 2015, however, theft of vehicles under 5,000 was up by 16%.

There are achievements to be noted, as Superintendent Brown points to the arrest of three persons in the murder of   Jordan McLeod,   and the arrest of four persons in connection with the 2012 murder of   Jordan Reno.

His report also says the work on dealing with problem properties, where police are frequently called to respond to issues,  saw the successful “rehabilitation” of the Lombardy Trailer Park, and that the Connaught Inn is “under assessment.”

Superintendent Brown will be in attendance at Monday’s regular meeting of Council to go over the full report and respond to Council’s questions.

Comments

39601 files with a population of 80,000? A 108 files a day? No wonder they can’t do traffic duty anymore. So, is a small group very active, or, should I revisit letting my neighbor know where I hide my secret house key.

    If you trust your neighbor, hide your key on his property and his on yours. LOL.
    And no, think traffic section is the first to get staff pulled for other duties.

@ski this report also includes rural areas . It’s not just within city limits , thank goodness .

    Oh good :) Area population is about 100,000. I feel only so slightly better.

What are the perameters of the Prince George area ? I’ve yet to find what they are or where to find them . Btw the pop is less than 72 k according the the last census (city limits) .

    Ataloss nobody not the city, province or Census Canada can actually agree on what the population within the city limits are let alone outside the city limits

    If you go by Census Canada numbers for August 2015 the city of PG has 80,000 it lists for rural communities within 35 minute drive of Prince George as listing 37,000 giving a grand total of 117,000

      37,000 within 35 minute drive of PG??? Who is it that is dreaming in Technicolour?

      35 minutes does not get you to Mackenzie or Vanderhoof. Hixon at best and that is included in the CA already.

    Census Canada does not estimate between Census date. BCStats does that and they never agree with Census Canada because they use different calculation methods.

    Census Canada takes actual counts and makes some corrections for those. An example of areas of uncertainty are around students whose permanent residence may be with their parents or other relations in another town and they attend post secondary institutions in another city where they have a temporary residence they rent. A community with one or more post secondary institutions will likely have a larger number of residents for 7 to 8 months of the year than they would during the remainder of the year.

    BCStats uses indictors rather than enumeration to estimate population. Neither are 100% accurate, nor can they ever be unless one were to put implants into babies at birth which can track movement. We do not have 2053 yet.

    Thus, the best use for stats related to population is to use one or the other, not both. Most relational stats use Census data.

    Since the BCStats numbers are generally higher than Census, anyone who wants to promote an area though the use of the largest population will tend to use the BCStats.

    From Census Canada

    CY = Census City area 2011 Census population 71,976 Prov. Rank = 17; National Rank = 76

    CA = Census Agglomeration 2011 Census population 84,232 Prov Rank = 8; Nat. Rank = 46

    The boundaries for CA are: Hixon to the south, Salmon Valley to the north, Bednesti Lake to the west and Alberta Border to the east.

    It does not include communities such as Mackenzie and Vanderhoof, Fort St. James, Fraser Lake, Burns Lake, which I would include for immediate trading area as far as box store retail and other services such as Hospital and other medical services and even special shows at the CN Centre. The total of that would make it between 90,000 and 95,000.

One year stats are up and down.

I see not reporting of 5 and 10 year trends, if any. Are they flat? improving? getting worse?

Then an analysis as to why. Relate the long term trends to long term cost of policing and long term staffing.

Finally, how are we doing compared to other similar jurisdictions in BC – Nanaimo, Chilliwack, Kamloops, Kelowna?

I can’t do anything with the above snapshot unless I see some more info.

2015 census Canada estimated statistics

Prince George has 80,000
Kamloops has 87,000
Kelowna has 119,000
Nanaimo has 158,000
Chilliwack has 94,000

    2010 stats

    Prince George 73,000
    Kamloops 87,000
    Kelowna 117,000
    Nanaimo 83,000
    Chilliwack 85,000

      statcan.gc.ca … that is the official statscan site.

      These are the numbers for the 2011 census for the cities you showed.

      Prince George 71,974
      Kamloops 85,678
      Kelowna 117,310
      Nanaimo 83,810
      Chilliwack 77,936

      Which site do you get the figures from? It cannot be a statscan site.

Dearth. You must be using the BC Statistics. Federal Government census is taken every 5 years. The last one was 2011 and the next one is this year 2016.

The population for PG for 2011 I believe is as you showed ie; 73,000. The 80,000 probably includes some of the outlying areas,.

In any event we can probably assume that our the City population is approx. 75,000. Less if you believe the BC Stats, and certainly less by the Census standards.

    Somebody is using a baker’s dozen again, that’s for sure.

No matter what the count, the key is to stay with a consistent method of measuring and then compare to others and to the community itself.

So, those figures once again sorted in order of fastest growing to slowest. The first number is the CY (city) and the second is the CA (Census Agglomeration). In the case of Kelowna, the city has grown to the point where the CA is no longer counted and it has moved into the CMA (census metropolitan area) category.

The third number is the growth rate per 5 years.

Chilliwack : 77,936 : 92,308 : 11.9%
Kelowna : 117,310 : 179,839 : 10.8%
Kamloops : 85,678 : 98,754 : 6.4%
Nanaimo : 83,810 : 98,021 : 6.1%
Prince George : 71,974 : 84,232 : 1.2%

There was an improvement in 2011 in that it was the first time there was an increase in the population. We have a few thousand left to go to reach the largest number.

common thread stats would be interesting to see.

alcohol probably still number 1.
drug trade a close second most likely.

Arguing over what the population might be is pretty stupid when the number that should be focused on is 39,601.

Nearly 40 thousand files and lets put the population at 100 thousand (both inflated one more than the other)

40 thousand f-ing files! WTF? The stats I want to see really need to be broken down further, out of 40 thousand which individual created the most? How about a top 50, and why the hell are they out and about to do it over and over again.

All I see is the return to the wild west and it’s time for the public to take action into it’s own hands as it was way back in the day.

How many fewer files will there be when pot is legalized? There must be numbers available from the states that have legalized it.

There is nothing in the article to suggest that the quantity of files includes rural areas out of the city limits (other than the reference to one rural murder)
The article states “Prince George RCMP” which sounds to me like the city detachment, based on Victoria St.
Wouldn’t rural policing would be by “North District RCMP”? based on 5th Avenue at Ospika Blvd.
metalman.

My understanding of the makeup is as following:

The Prince George City limits are just that- The rural area consists of the following:

South to the four lane south of Hixon
North to Red Rocky Creek (past Bear Lake)
East to Dome Creek (old Dome Creek Diner)
West to Bednesti

And everything in between.

The last update by Supt Stubbs indicated that the rural police members consisted of 4 Cst and a Sgt but according to friends who are with the RCMP those members have been reassigned for the most part to work in the City..

and no the 5th Avenue Building doesn’t look after this area except for there Traffic Officers.. who work on the highways

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