Friday Free for All – May 20th, 2016
Friday, May 20, 2016 @ 12:00 AM
We may be heading into a long weekend but there’s time to speak up on the issues that matter to you, before you head out.
It’s time for the Friday Free For All.
You pick the topic, but be respectful of others. You may not agree with their opinion, but name calling will not be tolerated.
There are three simple rules to follow:
Keep it clean
Keep it legal
No Bullying.
Comments
The power is out and I hear a bunch of sirens.
Probably lots of bears in your back yard too… maybe you should go out and check and see dumb….
Wouldn’t want to interrupt you and your bear feeding activities you goofball.
What part of town?
College Heights
So it looks as if somebody lost control of their vehicle where 4 lane Domano merges into the two lane. Southbound, they struck a telephone pole then jumped the curb and busted through someone’s fence. I’m thinking that’s the source of our power outage in lower College Heights.
In the news this week, a former communications director in British Columbia’s Liberal government; Brian Bonney was charged in connection with a behind-the-scenes strategy by the Liberals to win ethnic votes in the 2013 election. A statement Tuesday by B.C.’s Criminal Justice Branch said special prosecutor David Butcher approved the criminal charge against Bonney.
Ho hum… chalk up another scandal for the Christy Clark Lib-Cons… seems they were using BC Government public services to help with their own Liberal Party strategy to woo the ethnic vote in the last election… go figure… not only is it unethical to use taxpayer funded BC government public services to work for a political party (Liberals), but it is also illegal.
www .ctvnews.ca/canada/former-b-c-official-faces-breach-of-trust-charge-over-ethnic-vote-plan-1.2906621
With so many other BC Liberal Government scandals on the books; the question needs to be asked; is Christy Clark’s government the most ethically challenged in Canada? Now that the Harper Government is gone, my opinion would be yes!!! Read the following article and decide for yourself.
www .pressprogress.ca/is_christy_clark_s_government_the_most_ethically_challenged_in_canada
Welp, I am beginning to understand why politics in our country and province is so screwed up. I post a comment about CRIMINAL behavior and CRIMINAL CHARGES being laid in the actions of a Provincial Liberal Government, and everyone here loses their mind over our Prime Minister accidentally brushing his elbow against a female opposition member MP’s breasts.
Hey look everyone, this guy over here just lost his leg and is bleeding to death… naw not right now, this person over here has a sliver in his finger (or elbow). Some people just crack me up, Christy’s online deflection away from her government’s unethical and criminal behavior has been achieved so lets talk about boobgate.
The following short youtube video is the ultimate analysis of what went down, and as far as I am concerned, all parties behaved like children in this pathetic instance.
www .youtube.com/watch?v=Sn9Up-tjmoM
So Trudeau is showing his true colors.
I said prior to the last election that I could support him on a lot of things; but could never vote for him because he is a totalitarian at his heart.
The big red flag for everyone should have been how he handled the abortion issue. Rather than looking for recognition of his point of view… instead Trudeau made it an all or nothing issue vowing to kick out from the party anyone that is not pro abortion. Everyone had to accept his point of view or they could not be a liberal anymore he declared (thus I could never be a liberal). Trudeau vowed there would be no discussion on related issues; and anyone with a different point of view could find a new party. Many long time party stalwarts were alienated and expelled for Trudeau’s insistence that the unborn don’t have any rights and rights for the unborn Canadians could never be discussed.
Then he tells us he will change the way we elect our Parliament, but the citizens of our country will have no say in how he will change the way we vote. The decision will be his alone through his stacking of the committee that he set up to enact the changes. No votes, no referendums, and no authority to make the changes otherwise.
So now fast forward to today and this latest incidence of rash behavior that doesn’t respect the process where members of Parliament have their say in respects to another issue of life… limiting debate on such an important moral and ethical issue as premature ending of life. It wasn’t enough for Trudeau that he snuffed out the parliamentary process, but then he has to man handle the opposition whip to line him up for a formality and in his impatience for due process intimidates and makes physical contact with other members in the House.
It shows a lack of maturity, a disregard for life issues, and a sense of entitlement that is unbecoming of a Prime Minister… and if left unchallenged creates an environment of intimidation in our parliament that is simply unacceptable.
Maybe what this issue highlights the most is the danger of having too much power in the Prime Ministers Office. Maybe this is a time when Canadians need to take another look at how that office operates and what kinds of limits and checks and balances can be put in place… while we still might be able to.
IMHO
cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-conservative-whip-1.3588407
Watch the first few seconds of the incident. It started when the NDP group, including Mulcair and
Trudeau obviously saw what was happening from his seat. The Conservative Whip, MP Brown, was trying to get past Mulcair, then another NCP MP and finally Ms Brosseau. The three of them were jostling to the right and then to the left as the video clip started. Brown was reaching out with his left hand, touching the NDP members on their waists from behind. The norm in a crowded situation would be that when one is touched on the left from behind, on a bus for instance, one moves to the right to let the person from behind pass to the left. Instead, Mulcair moves in the opposite direction and the other two next to him move in the same direction, not affording Brown a way through.
This started as an altercation between some NDP members and the Conservative whip.
Trudeau, instead of twiddling his thumbs, walks over, reaches through to the right of Mulcair to take Brown by his upper right arm and leads him past the blockade. Doing so did not cause the Mulcair group from opening up very much and they quickly closed the blockade again.
Another day in parliamentary procedure. As we can see it is small kids playing not only with big words from their benches, but also in the aisles if they feel the need to show their dissatisfaction.
And, of course, the peanut gallery on the asocial media comment not on the event as witnessed by cameras, but by the comments of others which are typically made on their party biases instead of informed information.
The PM should have stayed in his seat. He obviously became very frustrated with the altercation between some NDP members and the Conservative whip. The PM is a decent person. From day one he promoted finding solutions by co-operation and respect. He even invited opposition members to accompany him to the climate conference in Paris – he was under no obligation to do so, just to give one example. In return the opposition has shown from the very onset that the old parliamentary methods of scorn and ridicule are preferred by them! He apologized for allowing his frustration to get to him.
Why were some NDP and Conservative members not in their seats but jostling each other on the floor? That of course started the whole thing.
You make it sound so innocent, but clearly from the video he is running around the place like its his personal playground trying to put everyone in their place… Do you really think the role of the Prime minister is to run roughshod like the parliamentary bouncer? Aren’t there other people that can do the floor crossing scrum to get things moving… Damn near turned into a bench clearing brawl.
He shows no patience, and real lack of leadership skills in how he managed the situation. Acting or no acting it doesn’t look good at all no matters how one colours it.
So gopg2015 you advocate work place violence and violence against women then? Gopg2015 in your poor defence of the dear leader you conveniently left out the elbow jab to the breasts.
gopg2015, you really disappoint me today! From you I expected facts and instead you give us a load of garbage.
The facts of the matter are that Justin had no business leaving his seat, he had no business crossing the floor, and most of all he had no business committing an assault upon Conservative Whip MP Gord Brown and NDP MP Brosseau!
Section 265(1) of the Criminal Code of Canada is very clear!
265. (1) A person commits an assault when
(a) without the consent of another person, he applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or indirectly;
(b) he attempts or threatens, by an act or a gesture, to apply force to another person, if he has, or causes that other person to believe on reasonable grounds that he has, present ability to effect his purpose; or
(c) while openly wearing or carrying a weapon or an imitation thereof, he accosts or impedes another person or begs.
Good one,gopg2015. And they shall weep.
Nice sunny morning in Abby. The air is clean and fresh. how’s it in PG seamut? I forgot you have no smell buds.
Cheers
Retired 02, how’s the crime way down in Abby this week? Lots of action this week, from what I hear!
Sorry, did not finish the first sentence … Brasseau was to the right of the three.
She could get an Oscar nomination for her comments made from her seat later.
Parliament is all about drama. I thought people would know that by now.
She should also get a yellow card for embellishment for her reaction to the minimal amount of contact the PM made with her. God help her if she is ever trying to get on the skytrain at rush hour or after a Canucks game.
The Toronto Sun, a right leaning newspaper, reported the demeanor of Brown with the following words: “But Brown, the Conservative whip, appeared to be in no hurry to move through a group of NDP MPs who were milling about at the back of the chamber.”
How they got that from the video is beyond me. He was clearly trying to get through the blockage.
Why did he not go to the left? Probably never went to the supermarket on a Friday.
Matt Gurney – National Post:
“In the House on Wednesday, I don’t think the PM lost his temper. I think he was frustrated, sure, and gave into his impulse to make himself the centre of attention. I don’t think he was out of control when he grabbed Mr. Brown, I think he was very consciously and deliberately mugging for the cameras. He was showing how assertive a leader he is, knowing he’d make the news. The Liberal caucus, of course, ate it up, and did their best trained-seal routine, applauding the leader’s show of Decisive Leadership™…
“It was an act, in effect … perhaps triggered by genuine frustration, but still an act. He wanted to put on a show. And, well, guess what? He did. Just not the show he intended. Now that he’s embarrassed himself and his party, the only real question is what his follow up act will be.”
It is clear that qualities you prefer in a leader lean to the carrot colored clown prince of the oompaloompas south of the border. Some of his most ardent supporters are the likes of David Duke and every white supremist group imaginable,right in your wheelhouse, rather than the mainstream GOP.
In the last week two of Trump’s delegates to the convention were given the boot one for being a leader in a white supremist group and the other for smuggling assault weapons and explosives.Worse yet this scum was involved in the production of child pornography. Wonder how many more of these lowlifes are lined up behind #DaintyDigitDonald.
Very good news today for those of the left leaning persuasion! Apparently, due to the promised increase to their annual budget, the CBC has announced funding dedicated to some new programs for their Fall television lineup.
Of special interest is a new comedy, a political satire with a catchy title “Justin and Sophie”!
Episodes currently being written include:
– I’ve been in office a month! Man, I need a vacation!
– To heck with running the country, let’s run off to Vogue!
– Only two Nannies? What’s up with that?
– Sophie! Canada’s new Celine Dion!
– Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it’s off to Washington (for Dinner) we go! (with special guests, the parents and nannies)
– Shopping for a crown! Queens always need another one, don’t they?
– Who cares about my promises to wounded veterans!
– I’m a narcissist, aren’t all part time Drama teacher’s?
– Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s got the best hair of them all!
– Get out of my way, you Boob!
– Pass the assault and pepper!
Stay tuned, more episodes to be released, practically every day!
Thanks CBC!!
I must admit this one made me chuckle this am
Congrats ice! Glad to see that someone here has a sense of humour!
Go Justin go.. Nice to have a human as PM rather than a cyborg ;)
Hart guy is having a show as well..it’s called…Wahhhhhh..lol
P Val: “Nice to have a human as PM rather than a cyborg ;)”
Exactly! Human beings make mistakes, so do cyborgs! The big difference is that cyborgs never admit them.
P Val, there is a saying that goes something along this line…
When you have the facts, argue the facts,
When you have the law, argue the law,
When you have neither the facts nor the law, attack the person!
Your comment suggests that you have neither the facts nor the law in this situation!
P Val, if my memory serves me correctly, and I believe that it does, you were very vocal in your ongoing and never ending criticism of Stephen Harper and the previous Conservative Government.
So, with that in mind and with regards to Justin’s latest screw up, what would you have to say if Stephen Harper had got out of his seat and had stormed across the House floor?
What would you be saying if Stephen Harper had physically assaulted two members of the House, one of them a woman?
What would you be saying if Stephen Harper had told Members in the House to “Get the F*** out of my way!”?
What would you be saying if Stephen Harper had stuck his tongue out at other Members in the House during Question Period?
What would you be saying if Stephen Harper had called another Member in the House “a piece of Sh*t”?
There is ABSOLUTELY NO DEFENCE for Justin’s actions! NONE! But you go ahead and keep trying to defend the actions of someone who is certainly not the “Right Honourable” anything anymore!
The best part, the absolute best part of this whole fiasco was that Stephen Harper was in the House and that he got to observe Justin at his finest, haha!
I hear the Donald is looking for an expert in primitive sarcasm.
So, did anyone ever find out why the new fine for passing a schoolbus that is loading or unloading is the odd $368 rather than some round figure? I experimented without success with assumptions about the victim surcharge and the like. Are they using something like a percentage of average annual income?
I am wondering why it wasn’t $3680…. no reason for the numbers other than they are large and it might get peoples attention. Then again maybe not
I witnessed a ford crewcab license plate ea 5374 dumping his garbage at the city lot at 3rd and Watrous. Giving that the city spent 160k on cleaning these illegal dumps up I thought it would be easy to report it No such luck there is nowhere on the city of PG website to report and hold these tightwads accountable and cant spend 6 bucks to properly dispose of their refuse. Anyone know who to contact
You can call the RCMP with the info and you can call bylaw enforcement after they open at 8am and you can call the regional district of Fraser fort George as well
you will never get bylaws away from the coffee pot.
if they confronted someone and they got swore at I am sure they would be off on long term PTS
Try 250-561-7600
Key to revitalizing downtown.
I see the aging pool as a great opportunity to revitalize the downtown with a large scale master planned development. One that could potential be a catalyst for change and growth in downtown Prince George.
We already have a renovated KEG, a new brewery going in, and a new pub in the vicinity, as well as revitalization in the neighborhood between Vancouver and Winnipeg st. This is a start but we need something more.
Action Plan:
Demo the pool
Demo the Days Inn
Demo the Downtown Motel
Demo YAP building (reincorporate into new development)
Turn the firehall into an event space
Utilize the existing undeveloped parking lots.
Create a large downtown park with a city square. A world class design that would draw people to the area. Utilize mixed use, low to mid rise buildings around the perimeter of Quebec and 6th and incorporate into the design a pedestrian only Whistler style village.
Incorporate the coliseum, city hall, library, civic center, art gallery, and future PAC lot into the masterplan, with the majority of the development pedestrian only.
This would create over 5 blocks of land for a masterplan development right in our downtown core.
It would give the people of Prince George something to be proud of. A downtown that would entice people to move there. A gathering place where people could relax on the grass, dance in the square, have a beer on a patio, or listen to live music playing on a central stage.
Zone to include restaurants, pubs, cafes, outdoor patios, rooftop patios, shopping, and art studios on the ground level with residential units above.
Cater the residential units to a younger demographic like students, young professionals working downtown; even partner with UNBC. These would be the people to start the movement downtown.
Multi story parking structure next to the development with redesigned infrastructure for transportation around the area with public transit hub.
Host an annual winter festival.
Daily events in summer.
Farmers market in the square
24hr security and partnership with RCMP to ensure that this is a safe and clean area for everyone with no tolerance for public intoxication or drug use. Strictly Enforced!
Utilize “Place Making” as other communities are doing all across North America to revitalize their own downtowns. (Google “place making” for more info.)
Kamloops, Kelowna, Nanaimo just to name a few, have all turned their downtowns into vibrant areas and desirable communities. Why does Prince George have to be different? We can break the stigma that many people associate with Prince George if we think a little bigger and create a space like this in the city. I believe we have a great opportunity to finally turnaround our downtown with a place making development in this area. But it has to be done right.
The big question your probably wondering is what developer would invest tens of millions in downtown Prince George. I don’t have an answer for that. But I believe if the right incentives are offered, along with a partnership with the city for the land, the long term potential to revitalize downtown outweighs whatever further tax breaks or concession we may have to make that would allow something like this to happen here.
As much as I hate paying tax, I would gladly pay a little bit more than I do now if it would allow me to have a beautiful, clean, safe, and vibrant area downtown where I could go and spend time in the evenings and it not seem like a ghost town.
I would love to see the community get behind a project like this. Invite people to an information session and see what types of things they would want to incorporate into a masterplan that would get them to come downtown in the evenings or even move there. More community feedback going into the design would ensure people going to use the space.
The city has to take the lead and ensure that a masterplan is created that will be beneficial to Prince George and its future. And we need a large scale revitalization like this before anyone will ever move downtown in significant numbers.
Maybe we are just not ready. However, I believe we are, and if we build it they will come.
This sounds exactly like the Smart Growth on the Ground Plan that is well detailed under long range planning on the City’s site.
I just looked up the smart growth plan. I cant believe I have never heard of it but recently moved back to PG. Im glad there are other people out there that see the importance of a masterplan for downtown. Is this plan going anywhere? Is there any initiating by the city in moving forward with the plan as far as rezoning etc. ? I would be very interested to find out more.
Bang on.
Smart growth is not the only one. We have had several such master plans. The first one goes to the plan developed by a Boston based planner who laid out the downtown with 7th as a wider street and Quebec at right angles that leads from City Hall square to the railway station. That plan featured the crescents and the half-moon shaped park which transitioned the rectilinear streets to the east to the curvilinear streets of the crescents. Beyond that the crescents transitioned back to a grid pattern, cut off by what eventually became the bypass.
That was how Prince George land was promoted by Hammond to the outside world.
The next plan I am familiar with came in 1957/8 when the City hired a planner to be advisor to the City since they had no planning department. Desmond Parker created a plan ready for annexation of some surrounding lands. Land use became more specific including the zoning for the downtown. He stayed on for some 18 years when the City finally created a planning department and hired a City Planner.
The CBA (Central Businessmen Association) hired him to look at what a future downtown could/should look like to promote the downtown. CENTRUM was created which showed a 3D model with pedestrian precincts, canopies, local public transport systems, office towers, etc. It became an controversial plan opposed by the infamous Louis Matte who opposed any developments other than his own in the Hart.
The Cultural Centre Concept was the next in 1974. It asked for input by the citizens of PG. It created a 14 acre downtown precinct which was to include a Library, Civic Centre, Performance theatre, and Art Gallery along with some commercial use and a parkade to accommodate the car traffic such a venue would/should generate. The outline was prepared in 1975, a national architectural competition held with about 50 submissions and a winning design chosen in November 1976.
Subsequent changes after the library was built, left the building sitting in mid-air, waiting for the rest of the buildings to be built on a podium above two levels of parking which would have provided it with the entrance it was intended to have. The winning proposal also provide a pedestrian bridge across Patricia to Connaught Hill; one across Dominion to the Coliseum and a hooking up with the balcony of the Coast Inn which is within a couple of feet of the elevation of the library deck.
Additional changes followed when the Civic Centre was built below the flood plain instead of on the intended podium with parking underneath. The same error in planning was made with the building of the Gallery.
Since then we have had numerous studies of what to do to activate the City, with numerous reports costing a combined total of over $1million of city and provincial funds all ending up on the shelf.
To that we need to add, in my opinion the work done by IPG over the years, a significant portion of which dealt with revitalization of the downtown.
The game of planning is a continuous moving target. The problem is, there is no one at City Hall who has taken up the challenge in a serious way. Without a City Planner with vision and know how sitting at the Council table since the likes of Graham Farstad and Peter Bloodoff, the downtown will continue to be dead in the water until the City starts to increase its population by a steady 1 to 2%/annum. Even then there will be no guarantees for well-coordinated projects for downtown. They are likely to continue populating the meat of the donut rather than the hole in the middle.
Seems like we got the planning covered, just need some action!
“Kamloops, Kelowna, Nanaimo just to name a few, have all turned their downtowns into vibrant areas and desirable communities.”
I wish the powers in this town would look at the before and after pictures of the downtowns of the above mentioned cities and get some inspiration by gleaning from them the best ideas and use what makes sense for Prince George! Most of all, keep the citizens informed about what they are working on and let them have some input.
Input from the citizens and informing them is one thing. People say a lot of things when they are asked what they like.
I have long ago come to realize that when it comes to planning space for commercial activities the most important questions should be posed to the developers who may invest in the planned area. The good ones have a better idea in what environment their financial risk will be the lowest and what it takes to actually build a project.
The neophytes will end up like the fellow from California who had Colin wrapped around his fingers with the proposed student residences on Quebec St.; the developer of the Bingo hall downtown; Commonwealth with their grab of downtown property and drawings of what could be; the several condo proposals for the air space above the Bingo Hall parkade; the previous developers of the proposed high rise hotel on the triangular piece of property next to the library; the current developers of the hotel and condo complex on the closed street adjacent to the library and even the City with its proposed PAC that it hoodwinked a group of people into forming a Society to promote the proposal based on the marketing report for downtown PG.
Developments happen with private money when the time is ripe. A few of the smaller ones have been coming through downtown over the years, with more than the usual in the past couple of years.
We need someone at the helm of this city’s planning department who has a vision and the know-how and experience of how to accomplish it. A city which is growing in population instead of stagnating would help a lot.
LMAO Jeff, which developer do you work for?
Good post. I also see high density residential as a need, that is in walking distance to a grocery store.
The Parkwood development is there. I see no high rise around there. The streets immediately surrounding that area would be ideal for public transport as well as walking distance. High rise near there has been proposed in several plans.
No increased population; no interest in high rise condos; no developers prepared to take the chance; likely no IPG or now City marketing department to attempt to attract developers to such a development possibly with some incentives.
SGOG is a direct decendant of the City Center Prospectus(aka A River Runs Through It) that was rolled out with much fanfare a number of years ago. It now collects dust with all the other pipedreams eating up shelf space at city hall to redevelop the core in one fell swoop.
http://www.investinpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/CityCentreProspectusOct2011.pdf
The one quote that always gets me from the prospective is “make no little plans”…so they follow there own advice and make huge plans with no follow up. One only has to look at the projects the city has approved in or near the core to see how out of touch they are. Wholesale Sports and All West Glass are the types of business that roll up the sidewalk at 5pm and offer nothing to make the downtown more vibrant and livable. Meanwhile someone wanting to make a major investment in a nightclub was given the thumbs down by mayor and council.
The new police station and WIC were said to be the projects to get the ball rolling and going back a bit further the new courthouse was just the ticket. And who can forget the downtown dome. Redevelopment cannot be done with the taxpayers footing the bill and the city has shown time and again that they do not have the know how to work with developers….sadly they do have the No How…as in No How No/Way can we have dancing.
Citizen’s have been trying for this for years. Problem is the city will not keep to the OCP for areas and lacks sticking to their guns on what the people want – we won’t even mention bylaws.
Fun to read all the defenders of our dear leader. It was just a matter of time, as it has been said he is not ready and never will be considering his lineage. In my work place he would have been fired for work place bulling, assault and sexual touching. He will always now be known for elbow gate. His bulling actions has embarrassed Canada and his social invitations may fall.
Can’t get your way in parliament by derailing democracy, well then throw an immature childish hissy fit with violence. Considering he seems somewhat unstable good thing Canada does not have the equivalent of the nuclear button.
Dear leader do the right thing and resign, you are an embarrassment.
So bring it on all you Trudeau maniacs and advocators for workplace violence this is almost exeactly what was predicted would happen. Is this the change you all voted for?
Resign? Naw, not a chance, he’ll get a pass on this. Not as if he was a Conservative PM.
Not at all surprising to see him do that. Keep in mind that before the election, when asked which other government in the world he admired, he said he liked China’s dictatorship.
You are worse than the media for blowing crap out of proportion.
You just can’t handle the truth.
So someone gets frustrated that a group of employees making 160,000plus are not letting another employee making the same get thru to his job. And you think that accidentally bumping into someone is the issue.
Please our system is broken. Someone should get these people to work. They are elected to do a job save this other crap for election campaigns.
And our MP compares this to a drunk driver killing someone and domestic abuse. That is insanity. All of them need to Stop grand standing and do some work.
Wow! What a rant.
I can hardly wait for the next time Fat Actress gets up in the house crying . I keep trying to come up with a word for political sobbing . Poliblubbering , tearleading , sobtorying . It’s getting a bit much . It’s getting so bad that even salesmutt is joining in . From useful idiot to a failed election . Crying over it for months . Must suck being a sore loser .
What was that woman (who got unintentionally slightly elbowed) doing there? She was out of her seat, just like all the others! Had she not joined in the melee she would not have become an object of accidental bumping into! The PM should have stayed in his seat! For sure! What was Mulcair doing there? They started the whole thing! The PM meant well but it was not up to him to try to restore order! I am sure the Parliament has trained employees to look after that! All the other hostile never ending comments against our new PM and the Liberal Party are just due to some being extremely sore losers, those who are willing to accept the results of democratic elections only when they are on the winning side! Then they expect all the others to fall in line, shut up and obey!
Why are you lefties so violent. Ataloss is upset to see I was right along, you voted in a looser, and even a bigger looser than I have expected. He is an embarrassment to Canada.
hey Ataloss hope you have sold all your solar stocks, haha.
Hey seadog, what is a looser?
Spell check reduced the number of o’s
salesmutt . I’ve never owned solar power stocks except in renewable ETFs . I’m into financials , ETFs , RIETs and bank preffereds . Only rookies like you talk stocks and likely gold as well . You have no clue and it shows every time you post . I’m still waiting for your coal plays . Last week you said I should buy hold coal because it is the best play . Just for laughs I’ve watched it . What a stupid buy that would have been . Or are you talking shorting coal . That would have worked great for the last three years but I like tax free income from our TFSAs .
Ataloss you are smarter than I thought staying out of solar. How are your Musk stocks doing, hehehe.
Well Princegoerge dear leader was not getting his way,”The whole sorry episode boils down to something like this: The prime minister lost control of himself because his government was losing control of its agenda, and by extension, the business of the House of Commons.”
“Government House leader Dominic LeBlanc gave notice this week that he would bring in a motion that would, if passed, give the Liberals new and largely unchecked power to control the business of the Commons.
This became the proverbial straw on the camel’s back. Lines were drawn for a battle on Thursday.”
So you see PG the liberals want a dictatorship and only have their own agenda pass forward. Like has already been said dear leader admires the Chinese system, do you?
Dear leader ran on change, well the only thing missing was his muscle shirt.
Well looked at what happened, dear leader was not getting his way, marched across the floor with violence in his eye, grabbed a man to force him along and no one is questioning that action, amazing. Tyranny on action right on the world stage and its not a big deal!
Let’s not forget that poor lil’ ol’ Justin also told Members to “Get the F*** out of my way”!
How Prime Ministerial! Nothing “Right Honourable” about his actions and his behaviours!
But what should one expect from this twit who has called a Member in the House “a piece of Sh*t”?
What should we expect from this twit who sticks his tongue out at Members during Question Period?
Justin, just not ready!
Why does everyone in Prince George who wears an Affliction shirt think they are so tough? just trying to have a good time with my family at the spring fair last weekend and every wannabe UFC fighter has to eye ball me up and down.
They have an “affliction” called stupid? short man syndrome? compensating for lack of something? ‘roid brain?Attitude comes with the purchase of each shirt? :)
Watch out for them serg, they will have their buddies waiting in the wings to ensure victory.
Maybe I’ll send one of those shirts to our dear leader, he is a tough guy.
He’d probably do you no problem.
In 2002, when coal provided about 25 percent of Ontario’s electricity, it had the lowest electricity prices in Canada. They were the nation’s powerhouse with hundreds of thousands of well paid, manufacturing jobs.
But in a misguided attempt to “stop the climate from changing”. today, with no coal-fired power at all, their electricity rates are 318 percent higher and at least 300,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost in the last 15 years. While there were several factors that contributed to this fiasco, closing down coal, a flexible, reliable and moderately priced source of supply, was the single most important cause.
Not only that, there has been a considerable drop in property values situate near windmill generation farms, not only because they are unsightly and noisy, but also because of health considerations. Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne promised her government would not force any windmill farms into “unwilling communities” but although 90 communities have declared themselves as “unwilling”, in the name of stopping climate change, construction is underway, or planned, in many of these areas anyway.
Not bad enough?
Apparently not.
Now it looks as if nothing will satisfy the eco-mongers but complete economic suicide.
Quote – “And this new plan, billed by the Liberals as a “once-in-a-lifetime transformation” for Ontario’s economy, may also prove the end of Ontario’s lifetime of economic progress. In an era where assisted dying is the big thing with Liberals, this could be the first case where it’s tried on a province.
The leaked cabinet document, reportedly signed-off on by Premier Kathleen Wynne, lists a jaw-dropping 80 or so policies including: The eventual ban on heating new homes and buildings with natural gas, with only electric or geothermal being legal; $4 billion to be doled out by a “green bank,” funded by carbon taxes, to subsidize retrofits of buildings to get them off natural gas; the requirement that homes undergo an “energy-efficiency audit” before they can be sold; and a stack of rules, regulations and handouts to get an electric car into every two-car household within eight years, including rebates, free electric charging, and plug-in stations at every liquor store. Naturally, there will be billions more in traditional government-spending programs on public transit, bike paths, upgrades for schools and hospitals, and “research” funds and centres of climate excellence, not to mention new ethanol fuel standards that will gratify the Liberals’ top corporate donors in the biofuel lobby.
What hasn’t changed, evidently, is Murray’s confidence that a vast centrally planned government program is capable of re-engineering an entire economy through a combination of painful taxes, bans, and endless subsidies. That particular perspective no doubt fed into the Harper Conservatives’ 2013 decision to pull NRTEE’s funding. But at least its work, under Murray, was more honest than the Ontario Liberals will likely ever be about the enormous economic costs accompanying such schemes.
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…NRTEE estimated carbon taxes in the neighbourhood of $500 to $775 a tonne by 2026 — just a decade from now. That’s 15 to 25 times the highest carbon tax in Canada today.
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That suggests that under the new climate action plan, most Ontario homeowners will be forced instead to rely on solar and wind electricity for home heating. Since Ontario ratepayers already pay the continent’s highest rates, thanks to the Liberals’ ideological obsession with green power, that can only mean they’ll soon end up a lot colder or a lot poorer. Union Gas estimates that heating by electricity instead of gas will inflate the average homeowner’s heating bill by about 600 per cent.” – Unquote
Gee, won’t it be nice when the Federal Liberals under Justin Trudeau impose the same ideas on the rest of Canada?
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So those of you that gave this a thumbs down please explain your selves, please if able.
Just their way of saying they don’t like the truth.
You must be kidding! Why would any sane person volunteer to become your ‘climate change denial’ punching bag? By now you do have established a reputation.
PrinceGeorge can’t seem to find any reason.
Mind you, it takes a bit of work to figure out his grammar:
“you do have established a reputation”
Huh?
Rex Murphy: Leap comes to Ontario with Wynne’s new climate change plan
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Wynne never gives an end result.
Ever wonder why B.C. ,ONT., QC., give such juicy rebates/incentives for ppl to buy EVs ? I’m still waiting for that hot coal tip . No pun intended . I see you missed the REITs bait . Or are you too clever ? Or you just don’t have a clue ?
what happened to the line painting on the streets?
Rain, man! Using water based paint when it is raining…not a smart idea!
Have seen many of them that are only half as long as the ones they are painting over. They didn’t hire a non drinking line painter from last year did they?
Reading some of these comments makes me laugh and some just made me realize how uneducated (or lazy) some ppl are. Every once in a while I forget how to spell a certain word and I’m guessing it’s due to not having to spell the word often or just being out of school for so long. However, it blows my mind how many do not know the difference between their/there/they’re, your/you’re, our/are and looser/loser. Seriously ppl, think about what you are saying and how to spell. How can anyone take your comments or points you are trying to make seriously when you don’t know the difference between basic words? While we are at it, learn the difference between a yield and a merge. Rant over and hope everyone has a fun and safe long weekend.
What’s a “ppl”? Professional Political Lobbyist? Poorly Pronunciated Language? Past Perfect Liberal? 😈
LOL
Some people are good at some things other people are good at other things. I think Justin made a mistake and he said sorry , story over. My beef is the Senate, it looks like Pam and Duffy are going to sue us the Tax payers. Why do we need the Senate?? could we not get rid of at least half of it ? What do they really do? They look like a bunch of old people having a social life on the tax payers dime. What age do they retire? do they ever retire? How old is Duffy?
They used to be Senators for life or until they retired. Now it’s mandatory retirement at age 75 so Duffy must be younger than that.
What do they really do? Good question. The Senate’s original purpose was to ensure that wiser people (Senators chosen from the upper class) would check over the legislation passed by the rabble (elected House of Commons) and reject anything they considered bad for the country. Now they pretty much just do what the party leader tells them. Mostly it serves as a nice reward, patronage appointments for individuals who have helped the party in power sometime in the past.
We can’t get rid of any of it without a change in the constitution and chances of that happening are essentially zero.
Bitter:” My beef is the Senate, it looks like Pam and Duffy are going to sue us the Tax payers.”
Charges dismissed to day against other senators! I hope they sue the one(s) who instigated the laying of charges against them! No matter who they sue we – the taxpayers – are on the hook! All those court sessions must have cost a cool sum already!
Not all charges against the other Senators. There’s a former Liberal Senator who was convicted and was serving 6 years (I forget his name, the media doesn’t talk about him because he’s not Conservative). What about Liberal Mac Harb? He had to pay back nearly a quarter million (more than Wallin, Brazeau and Duffy combined) have charges against him been dropped? He was a guaranteed conviction for the courts. He resigned so he could keep his lucrative Senate pension.
We need to step back and look at what actually happened in the House of Commons. Ie; The Prime Minister of the Country basically lost it, and insulted a number of people, and of course assaulted a few others.
When you consider that Trudeau has been on the road since the last election, travelling all over the world, meeting with world leaders, going to trade conferences, dining with the President of the US., speaking at the UN etc; etc; etc;. you have to realize that this type of schedule is very stressful.
Throw in the absence from his wife and family, the long hours, travel, jet lag, thousands of photo ops, interviews with newspapers, and tv stations and you add to the stress.
Trudeau was not much of anything prior to getting the top job in Canada, and we would be foolish to think that he could just walk in and take over. The Liberal party knew that he had a few problems with his temper, etc;, and tried to bring him up to speed on how to be Prime Ministerial. Seems they failed.
Our Prime Minister is stressed out, and this incident will not make him any less stressful. He still has pipeline issues, first nations issues, the softwood lumber agreement, electoral reform, and other issues to deal with.
Justin is starting to find that being the Prime Minister of Canada is not a selfie taking cakewalk, and he is starting to show some wear and tear.
My guess is he will go underground and get out of the public eye for a length of time and try to recoup. In other words the honeymoon is over.
If he doesn’t get it together then we are in for a rough ride for the next three years.
Yep he is not ready and those are not excuses, its the job he signed up for. Think he is the only one with a stressful job? This immature dangerous outburst just proves he is not the man for the job. He is an unstable bomb.
The sun has set for sunny boy and his handlers most likely will have a replacement ready in the wings.
Take a pill ! If the house had Fifa rules , she’d get a yellow card for diving . So where’s the Hot Coal Tip ? You know everything about coal . So fess up . Where’s the big , safe , long future , in coal . The suspense is , well , intreging .
You’re a worse sensationalist than the media.
Don’t make excuses for him. He’s not under much stress. The media are giving him a free pass, in fact most of them are cheering for him, his approval rating is high (inexplicably) and he’s having a ball.
What that little workplace violence incident showed to the nation was a glimpse of his real character.
Palopu, your excuses for Justin just don’t cut it!
He struts around like a peacock, “look at me, look at me, I’m the Prime Minister!”
He’s in his narcissistic glory!
He lost it because he thinks the House is HIS House and he thinks that everybody should do as he says! He acted like a petulant little boy who was not getting his way, nothing more and nothing less!
I suppose that he should take another vacation. After all, he’s only had a couple of them since being elected!
He’s off to the G7 meeting in Japan next week! Let’s hope that he doesn’t punch someone!
Better yet, let’s hope that he does and in retaliation, someone lays a beating on him! Might knock him off of his high horse! Might do him some good! Nothing like a good whooping to knock a bully down a few notches!
So, after the guy crashed into the power pole on Domano this morning, BC Hydro was on scene and had signs posted all over the place, “accident scene”, Slow”,”flag person ahead” etc. Some dope in a pick up following another slow moving car, thought it was cool to pass the slow mover right where they were working to fix the pole. Are you an a hole or what?
Your day is coming stockaloss. I would recommend you be humble and shut your pie hole. You are not that bright, in fact your incredibly lacking in any kind of knowledge. Your posts prove that.
The long lost troll has returned.
Want a coal tip, check out George Soros he road the climate scam driving down the use of coal then started buying up coal stocks. Price will rebound with increase in sales to China India and such, oh and Germany for increased coal fired power. When the blackouts start in the US because of coal shutdown, well coal will eventually be back in vogue as costly inefficient renewables will not cut it, that being wind and solar.
Stockaloss, I like that. Stockaloss is always waving the flag for solar, claims he has a solar system but never proves it, and states he will not buy solar stocks, what???
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