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Friday Free For All – Nov. 11, 2016

Friday, November 11, 2016 @ 12:00 AM

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My Father was a 2nd World War Vet. He served with the Saskatoon Light Infantry.I will think of my Dad at the Cenotaph in a few hours. Lest We Forget

    Thinking of my Father as well. Vetran of WW2 and Korea.

      My thanks to your father Vikingnuck and to yours as well billyinpg and to all of the men and women who have sacrificed so much for a nation that at times seems ungrateful!

      Lest We Forget!

    Good morning to all my friends in Prince George. I started this blog yesterday when an item appeared of the thousands that would attend to days ceremony in the Civic Center but the response was not great.

    This being Remembrance Day I would like to remind people who our Veterans really are. I will leave out World War I as there are no more veterans alive of that conflict.

    However World War II is different. There Were 1000 Canadian casualties on the first day on the landing at Normandy. By the end of the year the Nazi army was no more. There were 40,000 Canadian that gave their lives in World War II. The war provide ”democracy “ for millions of people in Europe. Those that came home were our Veterans . The cost of the war was about 3 billion dollars

    The Korean War that was referred to in the history as the Forgotten War. There were 1500 casualties of which 516 were fatal . The war lasted for three years and the result was “democracy” for the people of South Korea. And again those that came home were our veterans. The cost was about 3 billion (?).

    Now here’s the crunch. DND tells us that there were 1859 casualties in the Afghanistan war . Of those 1244 were none battle injuries 615 were wounded in action and there were 158 deaths in the nine years of war. Veterans affairs calls them the “new Veterans”. and at the end of this war a revolution got underway. Cost of the war was 18 billion.

    I would think that the UN would know better then to become involved in these religious wars . And Canada just followed suite.

    We must remember who our “Veterans” really are.

      You think because war today is different from 70 years ago that the soldiers who fight in them don’t count? Blow it out your butt. My nephew, a private in the Canadian army fought in Afghanistan. He IS a real veteran.

To all the men,
women ,
and animals that have served in our military and
especially to those who made the ultimate sacrifice and their families

Sure glad of way I was raised that I carry on the Tradition of today, going as a family. Despite my grown children, we still go as a family to remember those that fought for our freedoms and gave their lives. I wonder if all the troubled people causing the world turmoil if they had this type of upbringing… VALUES

After the results in the us election–it’s time we as Canadians start to take note of the bigotry and racism that is coming out in people; in this country too. And I think it’s high time tospeak out against such attitudes! We as a country are based on immigration; it’s time to remember past history and how this country came to be. Most of us have forefathers that came from other lands. Together we have made this our country.
how many countries have built walls-to no avail?
Now, I’ll get off my soapbox.

    It does appear that the worst offenders are democratic party supporters in the US, and those who just want any excuse to riot. Good thing they lost power in the white house, their system needs a complete rethink.

      It could be worse. At least the Democrat supporters leave their guns at home.

      They don’t need guns to commit crimes against the property of others. Packing a gun would just weigh them down while they’re looting, and besides if one of them does get shot by a cop while unarmed that just provides another opportunity for another riot and more looting.

      I wonder who will be appointed Secretary of Homeland Security. Rocky Suhayda or David Duke ?


      Right. I wonder if you would feel this way if the shoe had been on the other foot and it was “Republicans” protesting and rioting over a “rigged” election because DT lost? Or would you suddenly be defending their constitutional rights to protest against a broken system?

      I’m pretty sure it would have been option 2, but we will never know for sure now.

      If you think it’s bad now, just wait and see what happens if Trump tries to do some of the things that he said he would do. Many of those positions are simply impossible to reconcile with what significant numbers of people down there will tolerate.

      I’m certainly not saying the US is at that point or that they will even get there (let’s sure hope not), but it’s way too simplistic and naive to not consider the possibility given the platform that he ran on and the expectations of certain segments of the population that helped put him in power.

      Hahaha, please provide some information on the riots that occurred when the Democrat’s Obama defeated the Republicans in 2008! How about when the Democrat’s Bill Clinton defeated the Republican in 1992!

      Oh wait, you can’t provide us with some information on the riots, because there weren’t any!

      Rioting when your rights have been violated can be see as justifiable. Rioting when you don’t get what you want is just childish whining!

      @ Hart Guy

      Amazing, how you conveniently left out the period of time where George “Dubya” Bush got elected in trying to build your fallacious case. There were no riots or demonstrations by Democrats when he won, even though there were plenty of accusations of voter irregularities during those elections.

      So what is different between the two elections you brought up, the two elections I bring up and this one? The answer is is that in the other four elections, none of the contenders ran campaigns as vicious, divisive and hateful as Donald Trump did in appealing to the worst elements in people. His vitriol and his extremism in what passed for “policy”, during his campaign, generated a lot of fear and loathing and it is not going to be easy to get it back in the bottle.

      I don’t think it helps their cause, but I can certainly understand why they are doing what they’re doing. Trump fed a fear and hate machine and right now it is paying out in those people acting the way they are. As long as Trump doesn’t do something stupid it will, eventually, burn itself out, as even those people will have to come to the realization that they are stuck with the man.


      I don’t know what campaign you were watching but the vicious, divisive and hateful, vitriol came from the Democrats. Fear and hate against Trump was the essence of their campaign.

      Leftys have a history of violence and rioting. Just because they don’t do it every time they don’t get their way does not detract from the fact that they do it often.

      So what are they demonstrating and rioting against this time? What did Trump do that raised their ire? He won a democratic election. They’re demonstrating against democracy.

      Hahaha, I never “conveniently” left out anything! All that I asked you to do was to provide some information on the riots that occurred when the Democrat’s Obama defeated the Republicans in 2008! How about when the Democrat’s Bill Clinton defeated the Republican in 1992!

      Simple, right? But nice try at deflection, haha!

      Rioting when your rights have been violated is one thing, rioting when you don’t get what you want is immature and childish. Reminds me of a child:

      “I’m going to stomp my feet and hold my breath until I get what I want!” Waa waa waa!

      @ Hart Guy

      I watched the same campaign as you did and what I saw was the Democrats stooping to engage in a mud-slinging campaign as a response to Donald Trump’s campaign, which was coarse, crass and vicious right from the time he announced as a candidate for the Republican leadership.

      The Democrats knew that taking the high road against someone engaging in a mud fight would be a waste of time, so they decided to go low as well. They just couldn’t go to the depths he was able to go and appeal to racists and xenophobes, on top of the normal American electorate.

      And, yes, you did conveniently try to ignore two entire election cycles to try to “prove” that Democrats are the only ones that would protest and/or riot over an election result, when it is clear that there are a unique set of circumstances, touched off by Trump himself, that have set the stage for what is occurring right now.

    Trump is just showing that he is truly a man of the people by giving people a place to protest in most of the major cities not only in the states but around the world.

    By design he has places buildings near the center of these cities and to make them easier to find has made them tall. As protesters get closer he guides them in with YUGE letters T R U M P….with Vancouver being the exception where the letters are covered by tarps.

    As he will put his holdings in a “blind trust” he will not realize the millions going up in smoke as the booking in these hotels dry up…..people flocking to other hotels to avoid the protests that will surely happen over the next four years.

      Nice tongue in cheek! ;-) ….. and double entendre … :-)

On this day I remember my extended family members who were caught up in past wars, the stories my father told me of what he and they went through, and I’m so very grateful that I have never had to experience war.

Those who died
The wounded too
Are no different
Than me and you

With dreams of home
Their loved ones too
Are no different
Than me and you

So take the time
Each November
To think of them
And remember
To honour them
Their families too
Are no different
Than me and you.

God Bless Them

While our Aboriginal Veterans were commemorated and remembered on November 8th, today let us remember all veterans who gave up their lives and fought for our country so that we remain “glorious and free”.

ht tp://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/those-who-served/aboriginal-veterans

The last time the republicans in the states controlled all three levels of their government was 1928 . A year later The Great Depression began . this time they should call it like it is The Great Fleecing . Looks to me like we have only a couple of years to prepare as USA protectionism will demolish us . The Donald was right . The election was rigged . Rigged by MSM and the FBI . Putin has other righties waiting in the wings to do the same thing in other nations . Britain , the USA now . Who’s next ? France ? Italy ? Spain ?


      Where did you leave the rest of your bricks ? I think you’re short a few .

    The Great Depression began as what we now call just an ordinary recession. Back then they were all called depressions. They happen quite often, they’re an economic correction. Just off the top of my head, my numbers might be slightly off but unemployment reached a high of 9% and as the economy recovered it had dropped to 6% when Democrat FDR was elected. He decided to interfere in the economy to “help” the recovery. As a result, unemployment rose to 25% and stayed there for years.

      Acting like Trump with your facts, eh ….

      Here is the fact check:

      Unemployment rates by year from 1929 to 1941

      1929 3.14%
      1930 8.67%
      1931 15.82%
      1932 23.53%
      1933 24.75% – FDR became president on March, 1933
      1934 21.60%
      1935 19.97%
      1936 16.80%
      1937 14.18%
      1938 18.91%
      1939 17.05%
      1940 14.45%
      1941 9.66%

      Now. let us see if you can be a greater man than Trump and apologize for having a memory laps just so that you can get a dig in at Democrats.

      What I will do is try to find one of the sources where I heard those numbers, since they’re so different from yours.

The New Democratic Party…. why are they still called “New” when most of their ideas are old?

    For the same reason that the BCLiberals are called Liberals ….. because that is what they called it.

    When they are 100 years old, they might consider changing their name. To the Democratic party? …. is that like the Democrats south of us? So they may have to go to the Canadian Democratic Party…. CDP.

      Thank you Capt. Obvious.

      You obviously did not get my drift that it is just as ridiculous to keep the name NDP when they are no longer new if a party that used to be the Provincial Liberal party was taken over by “the Howe street boys” and populated by people from the defunct “Social Credit” turned the party into the BC conservative party but decided not to drop the word “Liberal” making them the only right wing Liberal party in Canada.

      Begs the question “What’s in a name?”

      Obviously not much when it comes to politicians.

    Their ideas on ‘democracy’ are still ‘new’ in the sense they differ substantially from those of other people and Parties. They (say) they believe in ‘equality’, for instance, and doing everything possible to maintain it. That’s kind of like saying that a farmer’s field should remain bare rather than letting a few blades of grass come up before the rest.

I remember thinking when my son was around 17 or 18 years old. “Wow not so long ago boys your age were going off to war. Watching you get ready to go out with your friends for the evening. You are still a boy yourself. How hard it would be to say goodbye to you as you leave to go and fight. You would have been brave but I know you would have been scared. You still need me to talk to, spend time with and ask advice from and yes even hugs. This might be the last time I see you. I am so scared of losing you but you are the one who has to go and fight, lay in cold wet ditches and be afraid for your life. Never a day would go by that I would not think of you. You are so young”.

I am so thankful to all men and women who served, fought and died for everyone. So my boy could stay home and go to school, have fun, get a job and live a good life.

    Well said.

    All gave some! Some gave all!

    Well said ….

    Too bad there are so many people in the world today that can still not say that

I’ll be put a safetypin on my jacket today . #safetypin

    It looks good but feels even better .

So many in the past sacrificed so much for our nation, for our sovereignty to choose how our society will be regulated and the freedoms we enjoy.

Then we have the present day where we have politicians that have never made anything near those sacrifices and yet are empowered with the authority to give it all away… And they do with their global is free trade deals.

The contrast has never been so great between what our veterans sacrificed for; and what our politicians are willing to sign away in deals like CETA and TPP with kangaroo style investor state resolution tribunals that supersede our own constitution, laws and Supreme Court.

On this day I think it is important to remember the sacrifices our past generation made to hand us this finest nation in the world; but also to reflect on the question if we have done enough ourselves to protect that legacy from those that would undermine our country from abroad, but also from within.

    And the reason Trump got no support from duopoly of Amerin elites in the republican and democrat parties as well as the mainstream media…..

    Today he announced as President elect of the United States of America…

    ””For the first time 9/11 will be investigated by someone who isn’t part of the establishment, with skin in the game and plenty to lose.

    “First of all, the original 9/11 investigation is a total mess and has to be reopened” Trump announced to supporters. “How do two planes take out three buildings in the same day? I never got my head around the fact that nothing is mentioned about the destruction of Building 7 in the 585 page document,” he explained, talking about World Trade Center 7 which also collapsed – inexplicably – during the September 11 attacks.””

    Careful, dude, your jackboots are starting to show. Funny, how if Trump is not a Fascist, your language is starting to resemble the rantings of one more and more in my book. Makes me think that the election of your Dear Leader down there has emboldened you to start revealing more and more of what you are.

    I’ve read plenty of books. I just made it a point to not read “Mein Kampf”.

      Eagleone was never politically correct.

And the disgrace of this day is George Soros who through his organization Moveon.org called for protests against the president elect in every city across America… Protests that always turn violent when sponsored by Soros (eg the black lives matter riots)… And he makes this call for national disobedience on Rememberance Day of all things.

The Democrats in the US have shown they have no class and no respect for their nation, the rules that govern it, and the people who fought for it.

    And the pro-Trump KKK rallies are ok? Another one planned in North Carolina for early December.

      Ready made brown shirts . I never thought I would see this monster come back to open , growing , life . First they came for the …………..but the sycophants thought they would be safe .

      No they are not. Trump has nothing to do with the kkk. Trump is not a fascist, he is taking America back from a cabal of globalists that work hand in hand with fascists and bolshiviks.

      If you watch too much CNN than you should seek help.

      And you should try getting less of your information from conspiracy sites and “patriot” radio.

      And you should try to read a whole book. Maybe learn something other than bolshivk press talking points.

      Are you realy a bird brain..

    I think Remembrance Day is in one way a very apt time to protest against those who are positioning themselves to remove some of the rights that people have given their lives to protect …..

    in the USA that means “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Of course, we have people like eagleone and other Trump followers who interpret that since all men are created equal they must all have the same understanding of what “happiness” is forgetting that they are at “liberty” to determine that for themselves without sacrificing their “life” just to survive under a government which appears to be ready to take 10 steps backwards because of a new “elite” who feel they have been deprived of their personal “pursuit of happiness” and are willing to undo that of others to get it.

      What are you talking about???

One more thing in regards to pres-elect dumpster fire. The release of email from the democrats by wiki leaks was shown to be a Russian operation by both the US government and private cyber security firms. Then the day after the election Tass, the official Russian news agency, issues a press release that the was communication between the Trump campaign and high level people in the Kremlin during the campaign.

Py-ops to plant seeds of mistrust in the minds of the American people for the new administration of something there? There certainly are people close to Trump that would lead one to think where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Trump’s ex-campaign manager Paul Manafort pocketed $12 million from pro-russian people when he worked in the Ukraine. General Flynn has connections with Russia and even been shown seated right beside Putin at a dinner.Trump advisor Carter Page has some shady dealings with Russian money men. Even Trump himself partnered up with Russian money to build the now bankrupt hotel and condo project in Toronto. Release of his tax returns becomes even more import to see if there are any other direct connections with Putin and his cronies.

And to think Trump will now be getting full daily security briefings. Scary!

    How come you are ignoring the Clinton criminal machine, the donors to the Clinton foundation to get her ear. Her lies about the emails, lies about bengassi, support to invade Libya, Iraq. Willing to go to was with Russia over Syria. Her demonic defense of her rapist husband.

    Be interesting if Obama pardens her so she cannot be charged. Pardon would be admitting guilt. If not pardenef left to the wolves.

      I think Clinton was far from the perfect candidate but would sleep a little better knowing Trump did not have control of the football.

      As for your other comments:

      The Clinton foundation has received top marks from the agency that oversees charitable organizations where the Trump foundation is under multiple criminal investigations

      ->Contributions to Pam Bundy campaign who decided not to file charges in Florida Trump U case

      ->Using Trump foundation money to settle cases that his company should have paid

      -> possible charges under RICO act and tax evasion acts.

      -> Self-dealing from foundation receiving everything from 6′ portraits of himself to his son’s $7 boy scout membership fee.

      Seven house committee Benghazi investigations costing millions of dollars failed to place any blame at all on Clinton. None.

      According to FBI nothing criminal from email investigation.

      Assad should be removed from power, according to Trump Russia is in Syria fighting isis…wrong…the are, as Trump likes to say, bombing the chit out of those trying to remove Assad.

      Trump cry in the last weeks of the campaign was “Drain the Swamp” A good place to start would be his own transition team whose members include:

      Chris Christie- Bridgegate -two of his closest aids just convicted and face up to 20 years and have said under oath that Cristie had full knowledge(removed today as head of team)

      Newt Gingrich- Google the background on this guy- a cornacopia of sleeze

      Steve Bannon- Have you read Breitbart?

      Pam Bondi- One hand washes the other.

      ETC ETC

      You can’t be pardoned if you have never been convicted of a crime. She has never been convicted of anything ergo no pardon is required from Barack Obama.

      It is a good thing that Trump managed to become President, because now he will be able to pardon himself when he is convicted of fraud in regards to his Trump “University” scam.

      He is fighting to delay the trial scheduled to start in December until he is president.

      He is the first president elect to be elected at a time when he may be found guilty of an indictable crime …. of fraud. A word which can be used to describe his entire campaign.

      The man is psychologically “sick” and unfit to be a president of a world power. But mental health is not a requirements …. yet.

      Hahaha – You can’t be pardoned if you have never been convicted of a crime.
      Not sure about that. Nixon was pardoned without being convicted.

      Did you know that a court case starts on December 16th for Trump and his buddy Epstein for allegedly raping a thirteen year old girl ?

      US Presidential pardons can be applied to any offenses that may have been committed up to the time of the pardon, whether or not the person has been convicted, whether or not the person has even been charged.

    I’m sure Putin will enjoy reading his copy of them.

    You would believe anything that came out of the bolshivik press. The whole Russia is responsible meme has been proven completely false. The only thing they can rely on is the made up rhetoric of the meme continuing on from bolshivk partisans. Facts are not one intelligence agency has public ally said they have evidence of Russian involvement in wiki leaks. In fact intelligence insiders are pointing their finger at American intelligence agencies being the ones making the leaks happen as the only way to try and stop the Clinton crime family.

    You are trying to argue that Trump is an agent of Putin. That is completely rediculous. Trump is his own man and his interest is in making America great again.

      Putin will play Trump like a cheap fiddle. Thrump’s heart went all a-flutter when he thought Putin called him “brilliant” where a more accurate translation for the word Putin used would be “colorful” as one would use when describing a clown.

      There is the base problem and scam… whoever said America is not great?

      Things change. There was nothing great about the USA until after the second world war. They were an isolationist country, not a major player in the global economy and empire creation.

      Perhaps the whole Brexit thing is the same movement. Trying to make Britain great again.

      And Putin is after the same thing, trying to make Russia great again.

      So is China, they are trying to make it great again to where they were between about 1100AD and 1800AD

      So what kind of greatness is the greatness that Trump and his band is seeking? He has been unable to explain since he is politically ignorant.

      Dear Democrats, Read This If You Do Not Understand Why Trump Won

      Trump Is What Happens When You Nominate A Cheater and Live In An Echo Chamber—Please Learn From This


      Wikileaks has a 10-year record of never releasing a single falsified document, and is not connected to Russia. Everything they released were the actual e-mails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff. You had the opportunity to look through a window into the Hillary Clinton campaign, but you didn’t.

      By ignoring the leaks, you ignored reality.

      More at link.

      ht tps://medium.com/@trentlapinski/dear-democrats-read-this-if-you-do-not-understand-why-trump-won-5a0cdb13c597#.3oe223kdp

    “l can tell you with 100% certainty that it is not any Russian state actor or proxy that gave DNC & Podesta material to WikiLeaks.” – former UK Ambassador Craig Murray @CraigMurrayorg (after visiting Julian Assange)

    Notice what’s missing from the claims that Russia did it?


    Nowhere did Hillary or her people ever say the emails weren’t true, that they were frauds, forgeries.

    In other words, no matter who leaked them, they’re the truth.

On a brighter note 18,845.75 on the big board today . All time high . Anyone one exposed is up big on the lowered Canuck buck alone .

    Shows the support for Trump. Hope you pulled out of solar, wind, musk.

      Better play would be for coal, oil and nuclear.

      It doesn’t show support for anyone. It is just the typical market reaction to uncertainty, followed by relief that in the short term, at least, things have returned to some semblance of normal.

      We’ll see how markets react if Trump follows through on his pledge to abandon “free trade” deals.

      You haven’t a clue as to how any of it works . Just keep up the right wing propaganda and leave trading to the adults in the room .

    Markets are reacting because the insurance companies were going bankrupt under Obamacare, and they anticipate a change in policy that allows them to operate a market business. Also many American companies will see a tax rate cut from 35% down to 15% and this will represent a huge growth in profits, and thus a change in earnings to share price ratio’s… Even if it represents a fiscal deficit for government books. American based companies are now leading the stock market charge.

      First off name one insurance company that “was” in receiverships or even near ? Even if the drop in tax rate was truely going to happen it wouldn’t be cooked in , in the last three sessions . Your statements in this regard shows you have Not been watching more than a minute at best . Btw ADSs , ADRs are doing as good and some better than American based companies that are listed .

What will Trump do that’s so horrible?

Well here’s a part of it:

Seven actions to protect
American workers:

★ FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate
NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.

★ SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the
Trans-Pacific Partnership.

★ THIRD, I will direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label
China a currency manipulator.

★ FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of
Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to
identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly
impact American workers and direct them to
use every tool under American and international
law to end those abuses immediately.

★ FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the
production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of
job-producing American energy reserves,
including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

★ SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital
energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline,
to move forward.

★ SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate
change programs and use the money to fi x America’s
water and environmental infrastructure.

How will it all pan out? Hard to say, but t could be pretty good.

There’s more.

ht tps://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf

    He is going to declare a country that is one of the largest holders of U.S debt instruments a currency manipulator. That is how f***ing out of touch with reality the man is.

      And just HOW is the USA going to repay those “debt instruments” to that country that’s one of the largest holders of them, Hahaha? The ONLY way it can do that is to have a so-called “favourable” trade balance with them for awhile. But that’s pretty hard to do when the government of that country is ‘manipulating’ their currency to prevent that from EVER happening. With some very able assistance from the likes of Soros and his ilk.

      The kind of trade deals Trump wants to end are those that enslave the workforce of the exporting country and impoverish the workforce of the importing one. And start to trade on a level playing field. Where trade is just that ~ trade. I doubt he’ll be able to do that unless he’s prepared to make some big changes to the financial system itself. And take on the oligarchs at its apex. If he goes that route, good luck to him. He’ll need it, it’s a murderous clique he’ll be taking on.

      I don’t rightly know, but antagonizing someone, who could crush your economy, by calling in the debt they are owed does not seem like the way to go.

    Wasn’t it just a month or two ago that all the lefties here were condemning the TPP and demanding the Liberals back out of it?

    One would think they’d be cheering Trump on, or do they now think it’s a good deal (because Trump’s against it)?

      One doesn’t have to support Donald Trump just because they are opposed to corporate bills of rights such as the TPP.

He argues that anthropogenic global warming, if it happens at all, is a minor issue that has been usurped by liberals to expand the federal government.
No, it hasn’t. Everyone needs to get off this insular, circular argument (and the idiotic misuse of the word ‘socialism’) and see what’s happening with clear eyes.
It’s been usurped by multinationals (read: their global owners/investors and shareholders, while we’re busy arguing over bathroom signage at home) who want to act outside the purview of our federal government.
That’s why they rushed to enact the necessary global legal structure ASAP after their failure at Copenhagen 2009 to establish “Global Governance.” The young David de Rothschild articulated on TV at the time that Global Governance was the purpose of Copenhagen 2009. If they couldn’t get the whole umbrella passed in 2009, at least they had to set up the legal spokes by the time Obama left office.
The legal structures of ‘Global Governance’—to be adopted by the UN as binding treaties—are:
(1) The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
(2) The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) [UNFCCC’s baby]
(3) The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA)
These three agreements will provide the legal framework for NGOs and multinationals (aka, transnational companies and international banks) to act with impunity across all borders without jurisdictional control, and if passed, these agreements give NGOs and those acting in concert with multinationals/international banks the right to change the laws of this country without any interference from the US Supreme Court, or the people of the USA. Treaties trump local laws in this country; remember that! Treaties are laws enacted by the country as a whole, and therefore hold a federal and legal status above the rights of individual citizens.
This legal framework is spelled out in the 3rd agreement/treaty, TISA—Wikileaks or some group leaked this part of it—currently being negotiated in secret in Geneva by the US Trade Representative, Michael Froman, who was Obama’s Special Assistant in charge of passing the failed Copenhagen 2009.
Any Congressman (Representative or Senator) who demands to see the TISA today has to meet Michael Froman in a guarded room in DC (when he deigns to return to the US) without a phone, camera, and or the ability to take notes, for a total of 45 minutes only.
And since we agreed in Citizens United–effing stupid US Supreme Court–to grant corporations ‘personhood’, and once we agree to the three treaties above, these multinationals can stand at the US Treasury/Federal Reserve’s door—not Congress’s door where they would encounter sunlight—with their hand out for interest-free US dollars, endless amounts of it. Trillions.
Using the excuse of saving us from the ravages of CO2 because our population has been primed to be none the wiser.
Why else do you think Maurice Strong and young David de Rothschild’s Swiss uncle (Baron Edmond) dreamt up Global Warming in 1984/5 with David Rockefeller?

ht tps://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/11/friday-funny-liberals-are-in-such-disbeliefshock-on-myron-ebell-appointment-for-epa-transition-he-has-a-snopes-page/

Our election, the US election, world views, the media is the problem if one only takes the biased sanitized information from, CBC, Global, CTV, BBC, CBS, NBC, ABC etc without checking you are being missled

Information you will never see on biased media.

Time will tell how this shakes ut and how viciously media, and the establishment fight against a democratically elected government.

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    RationalWiki says…”Joanne Nova (real name Joanne Codling) is an Australian writer, speaker, former TV host, anti science presenter and a professional wingnut”.

      So you cannot refute her. You have no argument so revert to immature name calling a sure sign of losing. Thank you.

      Hey, I’m just copying chit off the internet like you always do. If I was to call someone a name…it would be something like seanutt.

      Give up DI . It’s hopeless . You are up against SCIENTISTS: EARTH ENDANGERED BY NEW STRAIN OF FACT-RESISTANT HUMANS. No facts can penetrate the bubble . They think that more is less . More diversity is less . More markets is less . More views are less . A different path is fewer paths . It’s conservative think . Using fewer paths and ideas is brain cell conservation . Why look for better ways to achieve things when everyone is getting a cut out of how it gets done now . Catch22 .

      DI don’t even imagine you could reach the absurdity of the mutt . You have to downunderstand that Joanne is a child’s programming southern star . I think that qualifies her to operate the Giscome sailor .

      Hey, I don’t want to get into the warmer-denier thing, however, some stuff I’ve been looking at tells me that Joanne Nova has trouble reading simple bar graphs.

      So Digitus Impudicus can’t show that Joanne Nova is wrong so he slings ad hominems, which is a defacto admission that she is right.

      And then Ataloss, equally unable to support his position jumps in with a few more ad hominems, thereby defacto admitting he also thinks Seamutt and Joanne Nova are right.

      I’m sure Seamutt will thank you for your support.

      For your information, she holds a BSc (microbiology and molecular biology) and a graduate certificate in scientific communications (on which subject she lectured at Australian National University and yes, she hosted children’s TV science shows on the ABC.

      And for 17 years she was an outspoken advocate for taking action against CO2-caused global warming. Just like you guys. She believed what she was hearing from the media, just like you guys. But then she took the trouble to look for evidence to support the hypothesis of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, and she couldn’t find any.

      So she did what any honest scientist would do, she followed the evidence and switched sides.

      ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMZegvtXB0

      Dirtman, claiming that there has been no warming in the last 15 years looks to be wrong. Do your own homework. How you making out with the depression era unemployment stats ?

      Did that homework, it’s more like 19 years.

      Couldn’t find the info on those stats yet, can’t remember where I got them but I did google it and what I found contradicts me.

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    One of the biggest problems is that young healthy people are not signing up but rather choosing to pay the minimal penalties for not having health insurance. This leaves the people that use a lot of the services raising the costs for the health care providers. Add to this the many people who have not had health care for years so they did not enjoy the benefits of preventative health care so now any conditions they do have are more expensive to treat.

    Over the long term costs would have been reduced as people received regular treatment. Raising the penalties high enough to make it a no brainer not to have health care would also help.

    When I think of no coverage for pre-existing, lifetime limits, no access to certain treatments if they are expensive,etc I am sure glad for the coverage on this side of the 49th. Is is not perfect but alot better than the US system

      Our system is set up to treat certain diseases in priority to treating the patients. If you’re suffering from the right disease, it can serve you well. Wrong disease, go to the back of the line and hope you don’t die before they get to you.

      Aside from that, the fatal flaw with Medicare when it was first introduced was it was another attempt to re-distribute an overall, and ever growing, insufficiency of incomes relative to overall costs flowing through into prices. The basic idea of the “well” keeping the “sick” is wonderful, but the financing was flawed hopelessly from day one. So now, year by year, we are forced to pay more, while in terms of services, we get less. Not sustainable long term like that.

      So what is your solution to our medicare system being unsustainable? Termination as soon as a person gets sick and presents a burden to the still healthy?

I am still trying to figure how Democrat supporters justify rioting in the streets trying to overturn or reverse the outcome of a democratically conducted election (voters expressing their wishes with ballots) in, as they claim, most advanced democracy in the world.

    Democrats or in our case, liberals/left do not believe in democracy. Our uni up the hill is a perfect example. They became unglued when a conservative showed up.

      Actually they do believe in democracy, but only when their side wins.

      I fail to see what the appointment of a chancellor has to do with democracy . Unless you are talking about the democratic election that made Hitler the German Chancellor.

Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 @ 8:14 PM by PrinceGeorge with a score of 0
I am still trying to figure how Democrat supporters justify rioting in the streets trying to overturn or reverse the outcome of a democratically conducted election (voters expressing their wishes with ballots) in, as they claim, most advanced democracy in the world.

They were expressing freedom of speech and their right to assembly. The protest was mostly peaceful, rioting might be an overstatement considering the actions of an isolated few. When Obama won in 2012 here are some of the quotes from Donald Trump’s twitter feed. “We can’t let this happen we should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided” he went on to tweet “we should have a revolution” and about how the electoral vote was a sham because the Republicans lost. Remember this is the same guy who said he would not accept the outcome of the election unless he won. He ran a dirty campaign the likes of which America has never seen rife with racism, misogyny and gutter politics. No wonder there are protests, and I say good on them as the world has to stand up to the Trumps of the world. In fact I applaud them.

    An isolated few? That would be a few dozen, right?

    Trump said he might not accept the outcome if he lost. That is, if it was rigged against him. The left/Democrats were “outraged”! For this he was roundly condemned by them and the media, who seemed to forget that their darling candidate Al Gore refused to accept his loss to Bush.

    Now the very people who were outraged at him are refusing to accept the outcome of the election. Can you say hypocrites?

      Trump never had any intention of accepting the outcome if he lost. The guy is a massive narcissist. There was no way in Hell that he would have ever admitted that he lost to some personal failing. He would have always blamed it on some external factor such as election “rigging” or poor advisers or the world was against him. It always would have been someone else’s fault. We were just saved from a disgusting spectacle by the American electorate collectively losing its mind.

      The only guy who has any right to complain about a rigged system is Bernie Sanderson.

      correction: Sanders, not Sanderson.

      True, Trump’s massive ego would never let him admit he lost anything unless his opponent cheated.

      But the people who claimed to be outraged by that are themselves refusing to accept the outcome of a democratic election. Hypocrites.

President Trump: How & Why… (from a leftist)

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    I’ll admit that he makes a lot of good points in that video. However, I will disagree with him that anyone on the left could convince anyone on the right of anything through debate, because everything he went on about leftists applies equally as much to right wingers.

Have Obama or Clinton told protesters to stand down and respect democracy? not that I have seen, yep they are a class act. Protesters just a bunch of snowflakes.

So the Trump presidency will start with a fraud trial, an alleged rape trial and 12 women accusing Trump of inappropriate conduct. Awesome !!

    Eleven years ago, Trump said on a secretly recorded tape that celebrities can do anything — even grab a woman’s p—-.

    Hillary (born-again Victorian virgin) campaigns with Beyonce, who performs a duet with the words “curvalicious, p—- served delicious.”

    Hillary is thrilled to have the support of Madonna — who has publicly offered to give bjs to anyone who votes for Hillary. (She’ll even remove her teeth!)

    Hillary’s campaign has deployed Miley Cyrus to canvas for her — when Cyrus is not busy inviting men in the audience to reach up and grab her p—-. (Video available).

    When Vernon Jordan was asked by CBS’ Mike Wallace what he talked about while golfing with Bill Clinton — aka Hillary’s husband — he answered: “P—-.”

    Oh, and 11 years before Teddy Kennedy ran for president as the Conscience of the Democratic Party — he killed a girl. After grabbing her p—-.

    Hillary’s husband is anaccused rapist, groper and pants-dropper. She’s his fixer.

    The New York Times spent months investigating Trump’s treatment of women earlier this year, its best reporters on the job. They interviewed a dozen women, and the paper splashed the story on its front page. But the best the Times could come up with was a story about Trump, as a bachelor, publicly praising a model for looking great in a bikini at his pool party. Then they dated. The horror.

    Months later,just days before the election, there didn’t seem to be a female Democrat who wasn’t claiming to have been groped by Trump — and getting loads of fawning publicity. Makes one wonder….

    No you made a mistake, that was Billy with the rape and sexual misconduct, and his rabid wife defending him.

    Let’s see if Obama gives scary a parden against future charges involving foundation irreglatities.

The Truth About the Trump Protests

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Trump is a turd and no amount of Hillary and Democrat bashing is going to change that. Now that the Republicans are in power they no longer need Trump and when he is impeached (and you can be sure that there are machinations in the works from the party to ensure just that) Pence will take over. Then we’ve got problems. Can you say devil incarnate.

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