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Friday Free For All – Aug. 18, 2017

Friday, August 18, 2017 @ 12:00 AM

August  is more than half way  over,  and  a busy month it has been. 

This is your day to speak up on issues that matter to you.  It is time for the Friday Free for All.

You pick the topic, but remember  to be respectful of others even if you disagree with their  opinion.  Name calling or bullying will see a comment edited, possibly removed or privileges lost.  There are three basic rules that must be followed:

Keep it clean

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No Bullying.

Comments

Ohhh wowwww everyone must be asleep…

This summer sure went fast… Kept us all busy what with the fires and evacuees and the crazy weather we been having.. WHERE did summer go ????

Whast about the NDP wanting to give a discount if we shut off our
phones ??? Guess we can tell them WHERE to go eh…. How bout giving those with years of safe driving a break instead????

    I have not had a crash for more than two decades. I supposedly get 40% off the normal rate.

    I do not have a phone. I have a mini computer with which I can call people and receive calls by voice, video and texting.

    The Germans actually have a neat word for it …. a cell phone or smart phone is called a “Handy”.

    I think that is quite appropriate since it is very handy and is hand held on top of that. ;-)

I guess we saw this week why eagleone loves Trump so much ….. just another white supremist … ;-)

    or, an orange supremacist…

    You are just a bigoted fool. So you want to call me a white supremacist now? Why because I support the rule of law? Get a life looser. Go back to Germany where you can spout that kind of nonsense for your WW2 guilt where it belongs. Really rich when a guy with a family history of goose steppers thinks he can lecture others on the subject of white supremacy hate.

    For the record, my family fought yours to put a stop to that… and helped to create a land of freedom and tolerance that you benefited from when you abandoned your own country because you were to above it all to fix your own problems at home. Just because you live with the guilt doesn’t mean you can lay it at the feet of others bringing a hate filled narrative to the debate.

    Why would I support white supremacists so they can go after my children someday? Just a stupid statement from an extremist socialist that can’t hide his hate is what it is.

      Might be time to fire up the site search engine and show some of the things you have posted in the past.

      “Really rich when a guy with a family history of goose steppers thinks he can lecture others on the subject of white supremacy hate.”

      It is called experience in my world, not that I experienced much of it when I was less than a year old when the war ended.

      My mother did. She spoke English and German and was conscripted by the Americans to become an interpretor when they were hunting for Nazis. She is 92 and still gets a pension from the USA for her work.

      For the record, where you and I were born is not of our choosing, it is a matter of fate. One has to do the best with it that one can.

      I choose to recognize the notion of people hating others because of their beliefs, religion, race, culture, gender, etc. and speak out against it.

      You, on the other hand, have shown you hatred for Zionists, socialists, and support for whatever crazy conspiracy theories you happen to buy into on any given day.

      Angela Merkel, who I think was born in East Germany, had a more reasoned and rational response to the Charlottesville tragedy than the POTUS. SAD!

      Place of birth has nothing to do with tolerance or lack thereof as you show on a regular basis.

      As another POTUS tweeted a Mandela quote

      “No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love. For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”

      The most liked tweet in twitter history. If I knew that Drumpf would read it I would sign up to twitter and post that this one Obama post received more likes than ALL of Drumpfs’ tweets combined. If it true or not is beside the fact, it’s twitter, I know it would drive Drumpf off the deep end

      Eagleone:”Go back to Germany where you can spout that kind of nonsense for your WW2 guilt where it belongs. Really rich when a guy with a family history of goose steppers thinks he can lecture others on the subject of white supremacy.”

      Deplorably ignorant of history comment.

      With 23-and-me DNA testing Gus can find out what Russian village his father came from and complete the family tree.

Sure glad they banned grizzly hunting.Way over due.

    It’s not banned, you can not possess the hide or skull but must take the meat to a place of consumption.

    This has got to be the stupidest, management by emotion……let see how that works out.

    Wildlife management must be founded on sound science.

Was at a friends funeral last weekend and during the eulogy one of those lovely straight pipe bikes went by the funeral chapel.. the bike was so loud the eulogy had to be stopped until we could hear him again..

How is that allowed to be on the road? There is a noise limit for cars and even stereos, also a noise bylaw in town…why not these stupid things?
Or start letting all car drivers to run open headers.. make everyone As ignorant as the bike riders.

    Usually it is nimrods with Banty Rooster Syndrome. Most people I ride with do have some after market pipes, but they don’t ‘bark’ on them just because, there is a minimal increase of horsepower, and if the ‘stages’ are installed there is a good increase. Just like cars. On the other hand I have heard diesel pickups just as bad if not worse going up Domano, that is irritating as it is a bigger engine! Same goes for these ‘Roosters’ too. :)

The current resident of the White(supremacist)House had quite the week following Alt-right/nazi rally in Virginia last weekend.

Drumpf is completely out of breath from blowing the dog whistle to the fascists,white supremacists and neo-nazis for the last seven days.
Understandable that he would harbour those views seeing that he has filled the west wing offices full of neo fascists like Steve Bannon-one of the founders of the neo-fascist/alt-right movement, Sebastian Gorka- who has deep ties the eastern European Nazi movements and the guy who looks like a giant thumb Steven Miller who writes a lot of the hateful words that come out of Trump’s upper anus.

Word is that Drumpf would like to fire Bannon but is scared to as Bannon knows where all the skeletons are and Drumpf would sooner have him in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.

In a Tuesday hot mess of news conference he said ” I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee.” WHAT? They were marching with torches and arms raised high eerily reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s chanting things like “You will not replace us”, “Jews will not replace us” and “Blood and soil” The first chant aimed at non-whites, no explanation required on the second and the third a German Nazi slogan where blood refers to aryan blood and soil meaning an aryan only country…. as Drumpf would say-Nice!

He also said there were some “very fine people” among the white supremacists and nazis. Yea they were holding the torches just to light the way so nobody would trip on a crack in the sidewalk.

Drumpf’s father was arrested at a KKK rally in New York and was also charged for discrimination for not renting to people of color.While one cannot blame a person for the sins of the father is does not mean that you cannot question what he was taught during his upbringing and if the apple did not fall far from the tree.

One thing of note, the ice is starting to crack around Drumpf as members of his own party are finally starting to grow a pair,sadly only mini marbles so far, and speak up about the damage Drumpf is doing. Bob Corker said yesterday that Drumpf has not shown the stability and competence required to run the country…..I knew a long time ago the putz was incompetent and unstable.

Thankfully the crazier Drumpf gets the louder the voices of reason become:

The Joint Chiefs all issued statements stating that racism and bigotry would not be allowed in the branches of service they command. Slap in the face to the Commander-In-Chief

“If great words can heal and inspire, base words can corrupt. Trump has been delivering the poison of prejudice in small but increasing doses. In Charlottesville, the effect became fully evident. And the president had no intention of decisively repudiating his work.”

“To be fair, people, condemning Nazis and white supremacist violence is really hard–one of those problems that all presidents struggle with.”

Finally one of the most vile and hateful neo-nazi/white power websites, the daily stormer, can no longer find any company to host them, even Go Daddy whose CEO is a big Drumpf supporter has had enough of their garbage. At least one poster on this site will have to learn how to navigate the dark web to get his fill of Andrew Anglin’s putrid commentary.

    I have never heard of Andrew Anglin or Daily Stormed before, but from your rants above Sparrow takes the cake for putrid commentary.

    The president did condemn racism, white supremacy, and all related groups. The presidents crime was one of equivalency for also saying their were two sides to the riot and that only one side had a permit to be there legally…. legally and factually correct statements, if not politically correct for the alt-left crowd.

    Trump has powerful enemies within the deep state and the globalist power structure that will take any opportunity to twist his words to implicate his presidency in anything that will stop his agenda. Instead of talking about repatriation jobs to America through his trade policies… instead we have a media and Democrat manufactured scenario involving aszclowns in Halloween costumes representing extremism of the left and right fighting in the streets setting the narrative of America.

    Nothing gets done is the call of the democrats… use innuendo and false hypothetical to smear the president and that’s what it’s all about. You get hard core zionism types like Sparrow that take it and run with it doing the bidding of his deep state CIA type allies and making ‘his people’ proud with his tribalism loyalty. How dare anyone call for equivalency when denouncing violence… especially a well funded group of violent protesters like antifa that are subversive to that state and bring violence to any town hall, rally or in operation event for conservatives.

      One American was killed in the terrorist attacks in Spain and Drumpf unleashes a twitter tirade including a total lie on what General Pershing did in the Philippians, yet one American was killed and 19 injured in Virginia and he did not come out and call it a case of domestic terrorism.Instead offered this mealy mouthed weak kneed garbage “you can call it terrorism, you can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want” Plain and simple it was domestic terrorism-end of story.

      The statements he made on Saturday and Tuesday show the real Drumpf while the one on Monday had all the hallmarks of a hostage video. It is no wonder that the likes of David Duke, Richard Spencer and Jason Kessler are claiming victory.

      Maybe you should check you “facts” both sides had permits and the neo-nazi/white supremacists permit was cancelled by the police when they violated the terms of their permit.

      I wonder how long it will be before Drumpf attacks Heather Heyer’s mother after she said that she had no interest in talking to Drumpf…expect a replay of his attacks on a Gold Star family. SAD!

      Christ even James Murdoch announced a $1million donation to the
      Anti-Defamation League a direct consequence of Drumpfs’ total mishandling of this. Murdoch added:

      “I can’t even believe I have to write this: standing up to Nazis is essential; there are no good Nazis. Or Klansmen, or terrorists. Democrats, Republicans, and others must all agree on this, and it compromises nothing for them to do so.”

      When Drumpf starts losing Faux News his days in office are numbered.

      I saw this description of Fascism and if it wasn’t titled as such I would have guessed it was the main platforms of Drump’s campaign and presidency:(

      -Powerful and continuing nationalism
      -Distain for human rights
      -Identification of enemies as a unifing cause
      -Supremacy of the military
      -Rampant sexism
      -Control mass media
      -Obsession with natural security
      -Religion and government intertwined
      -Corporate power protected
      -Labour power surpressed
      -Distain for intellectuals and the arts
      -Obsession with crime and punishment
      -Rampant cronyism and corruption
      -Fraudulent elections

      The US justice department has issued a warrent demanding that a web hosting company hand over tha IP addresses of 1.3 million people who have visited a site set up to help organize rallies against Drumpf. In addition they are asking for contact information, email content, and photos of thousands of people. Sounds like something that would happen in Russia or Turkey.

      As the white supremacy movement has killed more people in the states than foreign terrorists since 911 I wonder if they are doing the same to those who visit davidduke.com, the daily stormer or rense.

      If I lived down there my first investment would be a VPN or TOR client.

      Eagleone, you made good comment about that ridiculous drivel from Sparrow, right up to the point where you mentioned Zionism. What’s with all the anti-Semitism? Makes me tend to see you as the same as the antifa brownshirts.

      No Sparrow, both sides did not have permits to be there. The BLN/antifa brownshirts had permits to be elsewhere, not there.

      Standing up to fascists and communists is equally essential. Why did you leave that out? Because you’re on their side?

      “Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”
      Sounds like the left to me, Obama’s preferred style of governing.

      The white supremacists are a small group of thugs who could only rally a few hundred people for their “unite the right” demonstration. They are under constant surveillance as they should be. Meanwhile, the radical left attract thousands to their destructive, violent riots, they get a free pass from most of the media and the Democrats, their crimes go unpunished and they are gradually progressing in their goal to destroy the USA. The left are a much bigger threat, why aren’t you concerned about them?

      I have a huge distrust of mainstream media. Do I think they will sensationalize and twist facts to sell more news? Anyone who takes CNN et al verbatim needs their heads examined, but that’s all we’ve got to rely on this far away. Take it all with a grain of salt.
      There is no doubt in my mind that there’s a large group of people undermining the President because they are losing a huge amount of money and power.

      Dirtmutt-

      Drumpf

      “I will tell you something. I watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it”

      How does that measure up with:

      “I didn’t know David Duke was there.”

      or

      “I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long.”…” it takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it is a very, very important process to me.”

      Followed by the lies:

      ” you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit”

      “Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch”

      and later another whopper:

      “Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!”

      Dirtman … fascism is neither left nor right. Under the Nazis, the Socialists were among the first to be put into concentration camps as political prisoners.

      There is a huge list of countries that are/were considered as fascist governments. A much larger list includes countries which had Nazi sympathizers, among them is Canada from the 1930’s to 1940

      “In the 1930s, Canada had fascist fringe groups within it. One stronger group was the Parti national social chrétien of Adrien Arcand which had significant support.

      Arcand believed in the anti-Semitic policies of Hitler and called himself the “Canadian Führer”. In 1934, his Quebec-based party merged with the western-based fascist Nationalist Party of Canada.

      In 1938, the English Canadian and French Canadian fascist movements united into the National Unity Party.

      The only fascist politician ever to be elected in Canada was a man by the name of P. M. Campbell who ran and won under the fascist Unity Party of Alberta for Lethbridge in a 1937 Alberta Provincial By-Election.

      In 1940, all fascist parties were banned under Canada’s War Measures Act.”

      We are seeing a resurgence of the extreme right based on extreme nationalism and singling out of social groups whether based on sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, skin colour, political beliefs, etc.

      Dirtman, I had to read your post several times to be sure I understood what you were saying. Did you really mean to say that the anti-Fascists were anti-Semitic as well, because that appears to be what you said? I quote, “What’s with all the anti-Semitism? Makes me tend to see you as the same as the antifa brownshirts.”

      Quite apart from the oxy-moronic labelling of anti-Fascists and anti-Nazis as “Brownshirts”, the rabidly pro Nazi private army set up by Hitler and his cronies, labelling a group vehemently opposed to anti-Semitism as being anti-Semitic Brownshirts seems to me to be no different from the “Big Lie” technique used in Nazi Germany. Tell it often enough and some people will believe it. It would appear to me that the most appropriate group to label as “Brownshirts” would be the openly gun toting, army dress-up group that roamed the streets to intimidate residents there. Now they are obviously a private army trying to do what the Brownshirts tried to do in the past. Lets not be doomed to repeat it.

      ammonra, what an organization calls itself does not necessarily reflect what they actually are. Antifa is far left, opposes freedom of speech, capitalism, conservative government and the existence of Israel (so much for their anti-Semitism). Their tactics include intimidation, violence, setting fires, destruction of property and rioting. They will attack anyone who disagrees with them. If it walks like a duck….

      Robert Cantrell, summarising his conversation with Huey Long (look him up) phrased Long’s opinion as ” When the United States gets fascism, it will call it anti-fascism”.

      He was right.

      sparrow @ your Drumpf quotes.

      Your point is???

      What lies?

      The General Pershing thing is what is known as an “urban legend”. Trump was misinformed, thought it was true. He should have known better. It wasn’t lying for him to say it.

      gopg2015, while it may well be true that fascism is neither left nor right, the tactics employed and the rhetoric are very similar to that of the left.

      We are not seeing a resurgence of the extreme right. All we are seeing is conservatives pushing back against the ever increasing lefty take-over of western civilization. It’s the left who are singling out, social groups whether based on sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, skin colour, etc. for special treatment, and when the right objects they are called misogynist, hateful, racist, sexist, fascist, Nazi, homophobic and any other vile term the left can think up. Was JFK ultra-right? His policies were to the right of our Conservative Party, the Republicans and Trump (who isn’t even a conservative).

      @dirtmutt

      Guess you missed the part where Drumpf says that he does not open his mouth before he knows the facts.

      “I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long.”…” it takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it is a very, very important process to me.”

      Secondly he told the bullets/pig blood story numerous times in campaign speeches and it was pointed out to him then that the story he had told was untrue. So by repeating this it was lying…end of story.

      Gus the nazi’s were socialists. National socialists.

      IMO there is no difference between extreme socialists and fascists. They both operate out of Rothschilds central banks and both represent totalitarianism with total control in the hands of the few.

      Dirtman, I brought up zionism because that is what Sparrow calls himself. He lights his hair on fire if one ever talks about things like the Israeli apartheid two state sham (total racist), or their role in arming and facilitating the sale of stolen oil and Syrian terrorist groups acting as their air force and medical evac partners. The ideology of zionism is in itself an extremist supremacist ideology that makes most of what Sparrow writes hypocritical. The guy trolls me because I call it what it is and I firmly believe Israel was a facilitator of 9/11… which in his world is not to be talked about.

      I got to go eat dinner now, but I like Dirtmans quote about fascists posing as anti-fascists… very true IMO… typical mossad M.O. and considering the whole antifa is backed by Soros its not far off the mark.

      sparrow, I did indeed miss the part where Drumpf says that he does not open his mouth before he knows the facts.

      This quote “I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long.”…” it takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it is a very, very important process to me.” doesn’t say that, so where is it?

      You are giving Trump too much credit. Just because he was told the pig story was untrue does not mean he didn’t still believe it.

      Not saying that Trump doesn’t lie, he does, but I doubt that one qualifies.

      But if lying disqualifies a person from being president, then the US wouldn’t ever have one. So why must Trump be pure in order to qualify?

      Eagleone, I asked you what’s with all the anti-Semitism?

      Your answer was (in so many words) that you are anti-Semitic.

      Oh well, at least you don’t try to hide it, but it does get tiresome constantly reading it from you.

      You might want to rethink that one Dirtman.

      Antisemitism is when one hates every individual as a group regardless of individualism. It is a blanket hate based on an ethnicity.

      It is not antisemitism to call out a political ideology that espouses supremacist ethos, nor is it antisemitism to challenge the state policies of Israel as they relate to world peace, human dignity, and the sovereignty of our own domestic political sphere here in Canada.

      To abuse the correct term of the word is to desensitize its legitimate use, and does more harm than to just debate the issue that you take issue with.

    Sparrow most confederate leaders where democrats and the KKK got its start by the democrats to counter the Republicans under Lincoln freeing the slaves. That is the background of the democrats and considering their treasonous insidious ways in trying to over an elected government I think you are barking at the wrong side. You gotta quit watching Colbert and SNL for your news.

      The Democrats fought the civil rights movements for 100 years after the civil war too. They still consider blacks to be inferior and only use them to advance their agenda.

      How’s your friend Ezra doing ? Do you think he can survive on you subscribers alone ? Maybe he can come up with a line of fascist vitamins like Alex Jones sells to survive .

      So let us move from the simplistic thinking of a right of centre Seamutt, to another view of what was really going on.

      There were no recognized political parties in the Confederate States of America.

      Most Southerners, including Confederate President Jefferson Davis, opposed political parties, considering them to be a corruption of the principles of republican government.

      Given that, many (not most) of the members of the Confederate Congress were former Southern Democrats.

      A few had been Constitutional Unionists or Whigs.

      While there were no political parties, Confederate politicians often divided over the issue of whether to have a strong central government.

      Nationalists, including Jefferson Davis, favoured giving the Confederate government broad powers, especially in war time.

      Libertarians, led by Alexander Stephens, favoured a very limited confederate government, reserving most powers — including most war powers — to the individual states.

      So …. which of us is supporting fake history?

      In addition to that, seamutt, there were the “war democrats” and the “peace democrats” or “copperheads” in the north.

      One group of democrats supported Lincoln, the others opposed them.

      In both the north and the south abolitionists (of slavery) was not so much party based as based on individual conscience/morals and even religious beliefs.

      Well gopg you keep going along with your history rewrite, facts are facts.

      What are your thoughts on the violent far left. I guess in your world they are justified such as Black Lives Matter riots the murder of five white cops just because they are white Odumber almost endorsing the murders at their funeral.

      Why is the left so violent thought they were so happy and against violence, oh wait?

      You got to quit watching SNL for your news.

I have been noticing the bollards on all the corners that the City is putting in. Anyone know what they are about?

    Expecting a flood maybe? A place to anchor our arks? :)

Cpl. Craig Douglass says he likely would have done the same thing, but warned that intervening in an incident like this can be dangerous.

“He could have pulled out a knife, or another weapon and it could be a completely different investigation,” said Douglass.

A response to the attempted abduction, the police should change their dialogue on these issues and support the natural instinct to protect. The moments hesitation in this event could have a much dire outcome for the child.

    The lady deserves a medal.

    If she had waited for a cop to show up god only knows what would have happened.

    Chelsi Sabbe is a hero in my book, she did the right thing and the guy sits in jail. It could have been serious, Craig is right, you just never know. The children are extremely lucky to have this lady watching over them.

      She is the true definition of a hero. The guy she beat up is the true definition of a waste of breath. I hope someone in general population takes this child molester out. Can’t see the justice system doing it. Bleeding heart judges will here a bull$hit tale of abuse and drugs and mental stuff and the $hit$tain will get off without so much as a hand slapping. His record is long and varied with all sorts of debauchery and crimes against good people. Time to fix the system and start with this kidnapping idiot.

    If this lady had of killed this pervert she would most likely be sitting in jail. The moronic left saying he was misunderstood.

The fastest-growing industries over the last two decades have been fake industries, those that thrive despite having few customers willing to buy their products except at fire-sale prices. The fake industries all have the same angel investors — governments — and the same promoter touting their wares — again governments. These fake industries, the brainchild ofsubsidy entrepreneurs, also tend to be dazzlers, the better to wow their politician backers and the stock market speculators betting on cash flows of government subsidies.

Today’s fake-industry leader is Tesla, the electric car developed by subsidy entrepreneur Elon Musk, who also heads SolarCity and SpaceX, other government darlings. Musk’s genius is primarily in the subsidy-seeking realm — by 2015, U.S. governments alone had given his companies US$5 billion through direct grants, tax breaks, cut-rate loans, cashable environmental credits, tax credits and rebates to buyers of his products. Counting subsidies from Canada and Europe, the government bankroll could be double that. Counting indirect subsidies — such as electric-vehicle-friendly infrastructure — the subsidies soar ever higher.

ht tp://business.financialpost.com/opinion/lawrence-solomon-how-teslas-elon-musk-became-the-master-of-fake-business/wcm/12e8fd62-b49d-40d1-90e4-03105e49a514

    Did you notice Lawrence Solomon’s latest hack job is his Opinion and is worthless . Also you left out ” the Boring company and Neurolink company ” . Musk moves fast so I can understand you not keeping up .

      “Taiwan’s Minister of Science and Technology Chen Liang-gee told reporters that the Taiwanese government would look to potentially form a joint venture with Tesla for the battery project as the government doesn’t have prepared a budget for the project.

      Tuesday’s blackout reportedly came after “government-run petroleum company CPC Corporation ran into difficulties while replacing the power supply for a control system responsible for sending natural gas to a power plant.””…….. This deal is being worked today . They are fed up with unreliable , expensive , polluting fossils . Smart people .

      So if Solomon’s comment is worthless because it’s just his opinion, then your opinion must be worthless also.

      Government-run petroleum company. Government-run. Explains it all.

    I’ll tell you how the Tesla story will go. Its the same for all other new tech companies that have an edge that the financial elite banksters would like to have for themselves.

    Tesla right now is in the ‘drive by bond sales’ stage of development. Billions and billions of bonds are being sold by Tesla, because after all they have a market capitalization that is greater than Ford or GM. Soon to open a manufacturing plant with the single largest footprint of any building in the world.

    Next they will shift to bankruptcy stage where some sudden change in circumstances will undo their forecast projections and they will no longer have estimated cashflows to service their bond debts… Chapter 11 will ensue in Lower Manhattan where the chosen ones wait to harvest the company for its best parts for pennies on the dollar (like all good tech companies)… possibly even keeping Musk on as a a partner.

    Valuations will go as low as 5-cents on the dollar, not enough to recover funds for a bond holder or unsecured equity holder… but for the secured creditor that is owed merely in the hundreds of millions it is sufficient to cover their cost to take ownership of the entire company themselves and then take it private so the public can never again see its actual future economic potential.

    Those investing now are betting on it being the next Amazon or Apple… but they had mass market penetration and healthy cashflows… those betting on Tesla, unless they are the secured creditors, are just day trading to be the last one out before its collapsed into private ownership through the courts.

    Such is how corporate bankruptcy laws and our securities markets work these days.

On a very positive note in regards to the Charlettesville nazi Hatestock . A very large spotlight has been focused on our ultra rightwing lunatic racist fringe here in canada . In the spot light are the twenty three conservative MPs that have repeatedly warmed the seats at The Rebel . And the unite the right Alberta into the u cee pee UCP . Plus the big bonus of the rebel advertisers fleeing for their lives . Where will Jason Kenny spew his lies now that the rebel is a pariah ?

    Nazis are not conservative.

    Nazis are left wing.

    “The Rebel” is owned and run by a Jew.

    The united conservative party in Alberta is center-right.

    Former Wildrose members are concerned that Kenny is too liberal.

    Get back on your meds, Ataloss, you’re rambling incoherently.

Bannon out! Not a moment too soon. Hopefully Gorka and Miller to follow.

    The only thing I agree with Bannon on is something he said the other day when referring to Drumpf and Kim Jung Un calling them “two arrogant fools”

    Breitbart might be interesting over the coming days.

      Trump is an idiot who is moving the country he leads back into the dark ages.

      One of the head writers from Breitbart just issued a one word tweet…..#WAR

      The ever shrinking base of Drumpf support continues.

    Bannon is out is a sign that Trump is abandoning economic nationalism. If so he is twisting in the wind.

    Trump rolled out his planed review of trade with China on Monday… it spooked a lot of globalists who went full silverback on Trump. Trump threatened their Chinese pharmaceutical operations, their tech transfers to China, their reliance on the arbitrage of cheep labor… so they went with the Trump is a racist narrative to walk away from his economic council and make him look isolated… ultimately going away with Bannon’s scalp… from the leader of economic nationalism in the White House.

    I think without Trumps policy for economic nationalism the rest of his Presidency withers on the vine… possibly slipping into massive recession with a huge market correction… most of the market gains of the last six months have been in anticipation of Bannon economic policies.

    Sad thing is if Trump was to stick to his guns and move forward with balanced trade policy, tax cuts for the middle class, and moves to protect American jobs then he would easily win the next presidential election in 2020 with 30% of the minority vote. This would be historic for a republican and would put an end to the identity politics of the democrats. It would be a lost historic opportunity if Trump abandons his economic nationalism so early in his presidency.

    Far more likely though is Bannon is looking to take war to the democrats and their deep state operators. He is going to go directly after Obama’s war room, the CIA deep state operatives, the RINO’, the DINO”S, and the antifa types committing sedation in the streets. They might even have a new third party for centrists by the time 2020 rolls around, but for sure a proscription list of RINO’s in 2018.

When I watched what went on in Charlottesville, I felt like I was watching a 1960’s history show. How did they (“United” States) go from an African American President to voting for a celebrity to be their President and fall 50 years backwards in history.
Another note: Presidents like this one should never be allowed to tweet and use twitter. For being such a smart business man, he behaves very immature and socially dumb!

    Because he won’t give a free pass to lefty thugs and rioters?

From David Frum a transplanted Canadian.

“We’ve decided to rightsize, eliminate our under-performing race-baiting division, focus on core competencies: emoluments and collusion”

That one made my sides hurt:)

    This whole Charlottesville issue is probably just a smoke screen to satisfy his base that he is on their side and to deflect attention from the real issues that are looking in the USA’s near future. Notice we all stopped talking about Russia and North Korea. Classic deflection. SQUIRREL!!!!!!!!!

      North Korea has backed down …. for now. The rest of the world helped with that.

      North Korea didn’t back down. They said they would review American war drills in South Korea and respond accordingly (aka buying time)… thus this is interpreted as backing down by the liberals because Kim didn’t say they would bomb America in an inferno… when in fact the reality is that the mobile missiles Kim intends to launch on Guam takes up to 14 days to fuel up. They are a liquid rocket and not a solid propellant that can be launched at will.

      The solid propellant SS-18 Russian rockets NK got from Obama’s Ukraine (which is short on funds) is the scary rocket to worry about because its a solid fuel rocket with a range that takes in most of the continental United States. Kims holding those in reserve….

      A smoke screen for globalists and duplicity democrats…..

How about Gordon Wilson suing the NDP (Horgan et al) – or is it us, the taxpayers, being sued – for $5 million.

While I get that he was badmouthed in the media by Horgan & crew, he certainly regained credibility in the aftermath of those stupid comments. I don’t follow politics closely but even I was able to see that Horgan & his NDP buddies were the bad guys in this story. However, Wilson has just lost all credibility by suing for that amount. I understand that he lost his job and he may be entitled to some compensation for that but $5M???!!! I hope anyone thinking about hiring him would see this action and refuse him a job for fear of being sued for a ridiculous amount of money.

Does one have to be seriously immature to run for politics? It certainly seems that way.

    I doubt that he will get 5 million! If he does, it may prevent similar circumstances like this one from happening! Talk about shooting from the hip and allegedly making all kinds of unsubstantiated accusations and firing him, using those as a justification! His credibility in the public took an undeserved hit.

To the daycare operator who stopped the abduction attempts this week, you are a true hero. I have to admit that I laughed when I read what you did to that creep. You opened a big old can of whoop ass on that guy. I am sorry though that you endured this and were hit during the process of protecting the children. If this isn’t one of the best news stories of 2017, I don’t know what would be :)

A voice of reason.

ht tps://thetyee.ca/News/2017/08/17/Reject-Site-C-Says-Eliesen/

ht tp://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/obamas_legacy_north_koreas_nuclear_weapons.html

Had Hillary Clinton Won the Election…
By Patricia McCarthy
To paraphrase Robert Frost, America has taken the road less traveled. We elected a political outsider. What might America look like today if Hillary had been elected? Had she won we would not be hearing a single word about Russia. Not a whisper. It was not on the left’s radar at all. Ms. Clinton had embarrassed herself with that inane Office Depot reset button while she was Secretary of State. Obama had told Medvedev to tell “Vlad” he would have more flexibility after the election, presumably re: nuclear disarmament. The left cared nothing about that bit of collusion.

Hillary and her campaign aides have long been involved with Russia for reasons of personal gain. Clinton herself got $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation for allowing Russia to take over twenty percent of all uranium production in the U.S. Her campaign chairman, John Podesta, is reaping the financial benefits of being on the board of a Russian company, Joule, which he did not disclose. Besides, the Left has historically loved Russia and wanted to emulate its authoritarian governments. They laughed when Mitt Romney, in 2012, named Russia as our most serious foreign policy problem. And Obama, even when he knew/believed that Russia was attempting to meddle in the election, he did nothing. They’ve done it for decades and so what? Hillary was going to win.

Had Hillary been elected, the Clinton Foundation would be raking in even more millions than it did before. She would be happily selling access, favors and our remaining freedoms out from under us. She would be further eviscerating our military and she would be raising taxes to fund Obamacare even though it is a clear and present disaster. Anyone who doubts that should look up Hillarycare, the monstrosity she designed behind closed doors when her husband was in the White House. Her plan would dictate who could go to medical school, what specialty they would “choose,” and where they would be compelled to practice. Her plan was the U.K.’s NHS on steroids. Her plan was rationed care and death panels from hell.

Had HRC won, she would be implementing thousands of new regulations on businesses to further hamstring the economy. She would let the fascist freaks at the Environmental Protection Agency have their way with every aspect of our daily lives: Our cars, our showerheads, our toilets, our rainwater in our yards, etc. She would, like the EPA under Obama, privilege any species, no matter how insignificant, over humans. Central California has been devastated by the environmentalists’ reverence for the delta smelt! Thousands of farm workers lost their jobs thanks to this lefty decision, turning a lush agricultural valley into a brown wasteland in the name of “going green.” This is the American left today.

Dr. Ben Carson, Trump’s Secretary of HUD has already uncovered $520 billion in fraud that occurred under Obama. Two-thirds of the people who got Obamaphones at taxpayer expense, lied. That program was riddled with fraud.

Had Hillary been elected, the stock market would be tanking rather than booming. Every one of her policies would have been an economic wet blanket. She would have instituted a minimum wage by executive order and thousands of more small businesses would be closing. Instead, the stock market has gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected. Hillary would have already increased our $20 trillion in national debt; Trump reduced it by $100m in his first hundred days. Job numbers would have fallen under Hillary; Trump added nearly 300k jobs in the first month after his inauguration. Housing sales would have fallen under Hillary because even fewer people would have been able to afford to buy a home. Under Trump, housing sales have increased for the first time since 2011.

Had Hillary won, she would, as promised, have increased the number of refugees from the Middle East, Mexico and Central America. There would be countless more potential terrorists in our midst, thousands more on public assistance on the taxpayer’s dime. Under Trump, illegal immigration is down 67%. The DOJ, under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is rounding up criminal illegals, most of them gang members, many of them released from prisons by Obama to roam our streets with impunity. Hopefully the citizens of sanctuary cities will realize how much safer they and their children will be once this pathetic policy comes to an end. Trump stands firmly behind our law enforcement officers; Hillary would be standing with Black Lives Matter and even more police would be sacrificing their lives to this domestic terrorist group and its anti-cop rhetoric.

Hillary, like the rest of the left, hates the Second Amendment. Had she won, it would likely have been abrogated out of existence. Law-abiding citizens would be relegated to victim status by decree, no longer allowed to defend themselves from the always armed criminals while the likes of Hillary and her crowd live in gated mansion and have armed guards. “For me but not for thee” is the mantra of the left. She would be taking the nation in the direction of Oregon, which is fast becoming the fascist state the left so admires.

Trump was vilified throughout the campaign for repeatedly calling out NATO members for not paying their minimal fair share. Since he won, allied spending is up $10 billion! Then there is the Supreme Court. We now have another constitutional scholar, like Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, on the bench who may just do Antonin Scalia proud. Trump will likely get the chance to appoint two more justices in the coming years. Given the power our courts have grasped for themselves, his appointments of jurists who revere our founding documents may be the only path back to a Constitutional Republic. Neil Gorsuch is the first step.

Trump took us out of the Paris Climate Accord, a $2.5 trillion economy killer. He got us out of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership that would have been great for the eleven other nations in it, and bad for America. As he promised, he is putting America and American workers first. The left and the media hate him for all this. They have been rendered apoplectic and thoroughly irrational. Their response to his glorious speech in Warsaw, was that it was racist, xenophobic, tribalist. How dare he preference Western Civilization! They no longer hear actual words spoken. They hear what their radical ideology dictates they must hear when Trump speaks. If he said it, it must be racist, it must be sexist, it must be nationalist, etc. They are completely unable to grasp the meaning of Trump. Had Hillary won, this miraculous nation would be continuing the death spiral Obama set in motion eight years ago. It’s almost as though divine providence has rescued us once again as it has at so many crucial times over the past 241 years..

To paraphrase Robert Frost, America has taken the road less traveled. We elected a political outsider. What might America look like today if Hillary had been elected? Had she won we would not be hearing a single word about Russia. Not a whisper. It was not on the left’s radar at all. Ms. Clinton had embarrassed herself with that inane Office Depot reset button while she was Secretary of State. Obama had told Medvedev to tell “Vlad” he would have more flexibility after the election, presumably re: nuclear disarmament. The left cared nothing about that bit of collusion.

Hillary and her campaign aides have long been involved with Russia for reasons of personal gain. Clinton herself got $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation for allowing Russia to take over twenty percent of all uranium production in the U.S. Her campaign chairman, John Podesta, is reaping the financial benefits of being on the board of a Russian company, Joule, which he did not disclose. Besides, the Left has historically loved Russia and wanted to emulate its authoritarian governments. They laughed when Mitt Romney, in 2012, named Russia as our most serious foreign policy problem. And Obama, even when he knew/believed that Russia was attempting to meddle in the election, he did nothing. They’ve done it for decades and so what? Hillary was going to win.

Had Hillary been elected, the Clinton Foundation would be raking in even more millions than it did before. She would be happily selling access, favors and our remaining freedoms out from under us. She would be further eviscerating our military and she would be raising taxes to fund Obamacare even though it is a clear and present disaster. Anyone who doubts that should look up Hillarycare, the monstrosity she designed behind closed doors when her husband was in the White House. Her plan would dictate who could go to medical school, what specialty they would “choose,” and where they would be compelled to practice. Her plan was the U.K.’s NHS on steroids. Her plan was rationed care and death panels from hell.

Had HRC won, she would be implementing thousands of new regulations on businesses to further hamstring the economy. She would let the fascist freaks at the Environmental Protection Agency have their way with every aspect of our daily lives: Our cars, our showerheads, our toilets, our rainwater in our yards, etc. She would, like the EPA under Obama, privilege any species, no matter how insignificant, over humans. Central California has been devastated by the environmentalists’ reverence for the delta smelt! Thousands of farm workers lost their jobs thanks to this lefty decision, turning a lush agricultural valley into a brown wasteland in the name of “going green.” This is the American left today.

Dr. Ben Carson, Trump’s Secretary of HUD has already uncovered $520 billion in fraud that occurred under Obama. Two-thirds of the people who got Obamaphones at taxpayer expense, lied. That program was riddled with fraud.

Had Hillary been elected, the stock market would be tanking rather than booming. Every one of her policies would have been an economic wet blanket. She would have instituted a minimum wage by executive order and thousands of more small businesses would be closing. Instead, the stock market has gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected. Hillary would have already increased our $20 trillion in national debt; Trump reduced it by $100m in his first hundred days. Job numbers would have fallen under Hillary; Trump added nearly 300k jobs in the first month after his inauguration. Housing sales would have fallen under Hillary because even fewer people would have been able to afford to buy a home. Under Trump, housing sales have increased for the first time since 2011.

Had Hillary won, she would, as promised, have increased the number of refugees from the Middle East, Mexico and Central America. There would be countless more potential terrorists in our midst, thousands more on public assistance on the taxpayer’s dime. Under Trump, illegal immigration is down 67%. The DOJ, under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, is rounding up criminal illegals, most of them gang members, many of them released from prisons by Obama to roam our streets with impunity. Hopefully the citizens of sanctuary cities will realize how much safer they and their children will be once this pathetic policy comes to an end. Trump stands firmly behind our law enforcement officers; Hillary would be standing with Black Lives Matter and even more police would be sacrificing their lives to this domestic terrorist group and its anti-cop rhetoric.

Hillary, like the rest of the left, hates the Second Amendment. Had she won, it would likely have been abrogated out of existence. Law-abiding citizens would be relegated to victim status by decree, no longer allowed to defend themselves from the always armed criminals while the likes of Hillary and her crowd live in gated mansion and have armed guards. “For me but not for thee” is the mantra of the left. She would be taking the nation in the direction of Oregon, which is fast becoming the fascist state the left so admires.

Trump was vilified throughout the campaign for repeatedly calling out NATO members for not paying their minimal fair share. Since he won, allied spending is up $10 billion! Then there is the Supreme Court. We now have another constitutional scholar, like Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, on the bench who may just do Antonin Scalia proud. Trump will likely get the chance to appoint two more justices in the coming years. Given the power our courts have grasped for themselves, his appointments of jurists who revere our founding documents may be the only path back to a Constitutional Republic. Neil Gorsuch is the first step.

Trump took us out of the Paris Climate Accord, a $2.5 trillion economy killer. He got us out of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership that would have been great for the eleven other nations in it, and bad for America. As he promised, he is putting America and American workers first. The left and the media hate him for all this. They have been rendered apoplectic and thoroughly irrational. Their response to his glorious speech in Warsaw, was that it was racist, xenophobic, tribalist. How dare he preference Western Civilization! They no longer hear actual words spoken. They hear what their radical ideology dictates they must hear when Trump speaks. If he said it, it must be racist, it must be sexist, it must be nationalist, etc. They are completely unable to grasp the meaning of Trump. Had Hillary won, this miraculous nation would be continuing the death spiral Obama set in motion eight years ago. It’s almost as though divine providence has rescued us once again as it has at so many crucial times over the past 241 years..

    All these future seers… if Clinton would have won she may have possibly done this that and the other thing..

    She didn’t win.. trump did and he is a maniac.. wait till Monday when 3 main magazines in the states issue their issue with different versions of trump on the cover…lol. Trumps head will explode

    What’s the matter can’t come up with an original thought of your own so post a long winded, boring article by someone else that is utter devoid of facts but instead is based on what-ifs and conjecture. Like the old saying….if the fox didn’t stop for a chit he would have caught the rabbit….possible but will never really know.

    Obama is no longer POTUS, Hillary lost so the topic at hand is Drumpf and how poorly he is handling the job.

    People are running away from the man in both his public and private life. The CEOs of some of the biggest companies in the world have quit the presidents business and manufacturing council, Carl Iican(sp?) the billionaire just quit as regulations tsar. The count of major charities that have dumped Mar-A-Largo as a venue for their big black tie fundraisers is standing around 10 to date. The cost to Drumpf is between 100-275k a pop….that can’t be good for the bottom line.

      Ceo’s quit because they a scared of the violent left.

      Sparrow, no worries for Mar-A-Lago. It can host numerous “unite the white” golf tournaments.

So our dear leader back in Feb, invited all refuges into Canada and now we are dealing with the thousands crossing our borders illegally. Refugee tent camps being set up to house the thousands, hey wait till winter.

Yep dear leader you are something else.

    Did you get that figure of thousand from The rebel ? Still waiting for your hypothesis of how Ezra is going to fund his ultrarightwingnut site with just subscription money from the like of you ? We all know now what Unite the Right is code word for . Social medias across the world are booting fascists off their sites in an unprecedented rate . Even off dating sites . Read and weep for your brethren at vice.com. It’s a thing of beauty .

      I got the information from the CBC. say ataloss did ya find that hybrid diesel locomotive yet.

      Yes . Back in 69 . That’s diesel electric by the way .

Hmmmm, the more wind generated electricity (you know, the cheapest energy in the world) the higher the retail price for electricity. I wonder why that would be…
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Hmm — odd coincidence of Price with Wind Energy Penetration:

Wind energy is “free” but countries with the most wind power are also the most likely to get to the top of the Prize Pool for exorbitant electricity. Wind energy penetration is highest in Denmark (1st), Portugul (8th), Ireland (6th), Spain (11th), Germany (3rd). Conversely, renewable energy penetration is low in places at the tail end of the price curve like Luxemburg 6%, Estonia 15%, Hungary 7%, Lithuania 15.5%. In the low mid price range is France with 80% nuclear generation, and Finland which is 47% Nukes and Hydro.

ht tp://joannenova.com.au/2017/08/australia-denmark-germany-vie-to-win-highest-global-electricity-cost-its-the-nobel-price-prize/

The alt-left seems very selective in its righteous indignation, ignoring the historical record of a Democratic Party which embraced white nationalism, founded the KKK, and honored one of the great bigots of modern times — Robert Byrd.

Read more:
ht tp://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/take_down_the_statues_of_robert_byrd.html#ixzz4qBAH17z3

After watching this evening’s episode on ABC’s 20/20 about the events in Charlottesville, I fear for tomorrow’s protests in Vancouver.

The alt-right and the alt-left will both undoubtedly be present. Both groups have the right to speak and/or to protest. Here’s hoping that cooler heads prevail!

Hmmm, I wonder…….what if the alt-right held a protest and nobody showed up to watch it, nobody showed up to film it, nobody showed up to report it?

Hmmm, I wonder…….what if the alt-left held a protest and nobody showed up to watch it, nobody showed up to film it, nobody showed up to report it?

Hmmmmmmmm…..!

    They will probably blame it on Trump too. When really its just extremists on both sides taking advantage of the lime light the liberals are giving them….

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