Good lets kick some communist butt.

Carol James will be proud of all of them. Unions have no business in politics, especially telling their members who to vote for. I know they have tried to get me to vote for certain parties.

Communism has no place in Canada.

I am a union member but I am not a Communist.

Woodwomen, you don't have a choice to be a union member or not. If your work involves a union, your a memeber. They take a mandatory due off your pay and fund various non employment related causes you may not agree with. What a racket, no wonder the mob has always liked the union system.

sportsman, The NDP policy is that no unions or corporations give money to political parties. It is the BC Liberals who swim in the dollars of corporations and businesses. And all their customers pay for it.
dow7500, unions are democratically run., they are not criminal groups and your suggestion borders on slander.

Sportsman I have been a union member all my working life and have never ever been told who to vote for, nor have I ever heard of anyone I know say they have ever been told who to vote for.

Woodwomen I was referring to the current gov as being the communists, LOL.

Dow7500 no need to attack union people because you were not skilled enough to fill a union position.

Astro, good post.

So that is why the unions are going to court? They have been supporting the NDP by funding the NDP election advertizing through the union coffers! And that way the NDP says they don't take the unions money, just direct the unions how to spend their money, heehee!

Sweet deal. The NDP don't have to worry about over spending election limits either as the unions have no end of money and no election spending limit.

I notice the unions that are funding the court challenge are the ones that like to get into the taxpayers pockets the most out of the bunch of them. Once you cut through the BS the court case is self serving as usual and to hell with anyone else.

To all of you! Do you have medical insurance? Do you have WCB? Do you have pension plans? These were all bought in by UNIONS, along with better working conditions, and the list goes on!! You union bashing bastards, this would be a sorry state of affairs for the working stiff, if it wasn't for unions!I was a member of a union for allot of years. I pounded the bricks for many hours for change. Not just for my fellow union members, but for all in the work force, so we didn't become slaves again!!

If you are so against unions, then give up your medical, WCB, pension plans, and the like!! Go back to the dark ages!!!

I personally am glad the unions are taking on the liberals in this case. The liberals have turned / ran BC lately like it is a dictatorship. Our rights and freedoms to elect a party should not be impeded by the ruling party, especially as they change the rules to try and keep themselves as the ruling party.

Looks like we hit a nerve with tinpot and moonman! None of the above were brought in by unions by the way. The big wages came at great cost to others, but that's just freedom to do what's best for you. In the big scheme of things the cost of a burger in 1970 and in 2008 is still 20 minutes wages.
As long as you are not planning on collecting a union pension, you will be OK in your bitter old age.

lostfaith, your shot at Dow7500 and non union workers as being 'not skilled enough' is laughable at best. Somehow if one was to join a union, their skills just miraculously get better and become superior. I have seen quite the opposite that the very skilled,hard working knowledgable portion of the work force does not need 'help' from union for their success professionally or personally with pensions and benefits

ATTENTION Canadian Union of Public Employees, B.C. Teachers Federation, Canadian Office and Professional Employees Union 378, B.C. nurses Union BC Government and Service Employees Union, Federation of Post Secondary Educators and the Hospital Employees Union...GET OUT OF BC!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most of you are completely missing the point. The Liberals are attempting to stop debate. In the last election, many organizations, including unions, brought up some very valid points about the performance of the Liberals, and they want that stopped. As for unions, these groups were under attack by the Liberals for the first years of their term.

Finally, the attacks on unions are completely misguided. The purpose of unions is to protect their workers and improve their quality of life. I've been a union member for a long time, and yes, I've seen some stupid things within the organization. But I am much better off being in a union. As well, despite the statments I've read here for far too long, my union strongly supports helping me and my members do our jobs more efficiently and more effectively.

Again try to remember the point of the story above. The Liberals are attempting to stop an open debate concerning their policies (wouldn't you like a timely remindeer that the Liberals promised two sessions of the legislature a year, but now have only one-and they forced through the carbon tax on the last day this spring with little or no chance for debate?). This is an attempt to shut up the common people-we should all be upset that this is being done.

Thank You Yoshi

For a forum in which free speech is so frequently insisted upon, there are an awful lot of commenters objecting to a lawsuit objecting to government censorship. Let's see, practice free speech for yourself, but support denying it for others. Now what is that called, I wonder? Would it be hypocrisy, Yama?

Censorship is what the Liberal law imposes during the next provincial election. That is it in a nutshell. The unions are going to have it overturned before it takes effect, I hope.

Yes, thanks Yoshi.

Taxinapothole is correct, if not for unions in this country you would all still be slaves and have no benefits at all. Just like many non union employees have it today. No medical, dental, pension, minimum wage, crazy hours of work and employers that treat there workers like dirt. Still lots of employers out there like that.

People have been killed fighting for workers rights in this country.
Union bashers should be very thankful to them.

Zoom, my shot at dow was a shot at all anti union people that spout off retarded statements such as his.
I see Wavoes is really pissed at unions. Unions have training programs to improve worker skills and Wavoes must not have qualified and ended up flipping burgers for a living.

You see having the unions standing up in the courts for all British Columbians is a great thing. When we win this case all you union bashers can publicly announce your thanks to us for fighting communism in BC.

lostfaith, you missed my point. Most non union employers offer quality training as well, or the individual takes the training on their own. Just because one is not a part of a union does not deem them incompetant. For the record I am not union, however I do extensive education yearly to upgrade my skills, therefore do quite well without the union. Take a look around there are many successful people that do not need the union as a crutch. Since there are very few lawyers that are unionized, my guess would be that the union has hired incompetant people to fight this battle.

lostfaith, you missed my point. Most non union employers offer quality training as well, or the individual takes the training on their own. Just because one is not a part of a union does not deem them incompetant. For the record I am not union, however I do extensive education yearly to upgrade my skills, therefore do quite well without the union. Take a look around there are many successful people that do not need the union as a crutch. Since there are very few lawyers that are unionized, my guess would be that the union has hired incompetant people to fight this battle.

Lawyers are in an association, what's the difference?

Whatever this B.C. Liberal government wants they get or they do it with loud protest on deaf ears. They'll just make a new law and go on holidays. They are basically a government thet says "What we say goes, if you don't like, you no where to go". I'm a union member and I am not a communist either. If it weren't for unions everyone would be paid the lowest wage so that corporate and big buisness can make a killing off of the very people they employ to help them make thier profits. Campbell and crew loves that sort of empire.

Waveoes why don't you get out of B.C. or maybe better yet stay here while others move and Campbell will see that you work for $8.00 per hour.

Many of you guys are out of sinc with what the BC public really thinks.

From a recent BC Ipsos poll:

"A slight majority - 52% - of British Columbians say they support the introduction of spending limits on third party advertising during and 60 days prior to provincial election campaigns.

37% of residents say they oppose the spending limits."

So, does that mean the constitution which guarantees free speech is now subject to the whim of a majority poll?

After free speech, which other constitutionally guaranteed freedom do you want targeted for being declared illegal?

In its balanced and detailed decision, the Supreme Court of Canada has essentially already approved the constitutionality of Bill 42. Very similar elements in that decision to Bill 42.

http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2004/2004scc33/2004scc33.html

And in that vein, I doubt the legal challenge to Bill 42 is gonna go anywhere.

Zoom, you missed my point. I know exactly what your saying, however I wouldn't go as far as to say most non union employers offer quality training.

Acrider has it correct in both his posts.

Nobody really believes what polls say..... do they?

I have worked for a union and now work for myself...only difference I see is that when you work for a union you get to bitch alot more and people are paid to listen to you. I supply my own WCB,medical, dental and retirement plan.
As for the bill....I think the governement has their noses way too much in our business as it is. I am not a political minded person...too much bs and mudslinging and nothing ever goes as they say...but I do think we need to be able to dictate how our own lives are run and it just seems that things run smooth for awile..government gets all nervous and greedy..then they throw a wrench into the works..(said with humour!)