L e t   'e r   R i p !!!!

Gas in Vancouver is $1.349 this morning. Take off their 7 cent a liter surcharge for transit and you get $1.279. Something really stinks here.
Doesn't the fuel come from our refinery? so remove transportation costs and we are really getting it...

Federal election is under way and Dick Harris will walk away with it....no competition, but is he the right person for this region? Stands on his past performance...? Was the nominating issue from the last election ever fully settled?

The city line painting crews is still at it - there is now a nice squiggly line for several kilometres on Continental Way. They just marked Westwood in front of the McD's for painting - the marks are perfectly straight, I cant wait to see how the lines go on...

Happy Friday all

Looking forward to having Ben back on the radio. All the best.

BCRacer is right on the money! Greater Vancouver with the 7 cent per liter tax has historically always been lower then Prince George, Vernon, Kamloops anywhere north of Hope. So it just goes to show that we are ripped off big time in the interior.

WOW! Dan or Don for mayor. How boring. Where are you Eugene? Get on the ballot and make it interesting.
Remember Arnie in California and Jesse Ventura, the wrestler. They got elected. There is always hope a people's candidate, but who knows, recycling is the in thing and why not PG city council.
Enough about downtown. Who shops there anyway. Check out the parking lots at Superstore, Costco, and Walmart. That's where the action is.

It's a bad time to have Rogers as mayor with all the investment needed in the airport lands right now. That land still has to have lots of city infrastructure built, and Rogers will be wanting to piss away money on his City Trails legacy.

People think Rogers is indecisive and waffling, afraid to take a chance or make a decision, but he is not. Rogers just doesn't have the background in anything but being a sideline reporter. Reporters, observers and fact finders have excellent 20/20 hindsight, but don't make good forward looking decisions.

However Rogers will do well at defending the weak and helpless, which is what he always used to do, against development, businesses and city growth.

I think Don Z is too bloody cautious as well so maybe it doesn't matter which one gets in.

I hope everyone is enjoying our non-white summer!

PG is a WalMart kinda town, shop for Chinese goods right here in PG. Why fight it?

Gasoline? 124.9 at Costco in Abbotsford, home of the poor farmer and crime capital of BC. 132.9 in Penticton at Husky. 149.9 at FasGas in Dawson Creek.

We need a sub-prime moneylender for mayor.

Rogers will be ok, better than the path that Zurowski and council are taking at the moment. Zurowski seems to want to push business at any expense while Rogers seems to have spent his time out listening to the people.

$113.9 Toronto

Regarding Mayors race.

Please note the difference out of the gate of both candidates.

One has a glitzy press conference complete with posters n banners n website while the other sends out a press release.

I personally think that speaks volumes for the style of the two candidates.

Heavy trucks parking overnight down at the end of Domano are not permitted.
When will the city do something about that?
The past few days it has been truck #321 from Elite Transportation.

Lostfaith,

have you phone bylaws at City Hall????

IS IT ILLEGAL TO LITTER IN PG? this city is littered with cigarette butts and tim hortons coffee cups. I even saw a RCMP officer throw his cigarette butt out the window of his patrol car!!!!

DOES ANYONE HAVE RESPECT FOR THIS CITY ANYMORE...

Phone Elite

Drivers that smoke give two s***s throwing butts from the window of their vehicle, I've had them bounce off my windshield, off the side of my vehicle while stopped at a light. Blow the horn you get the finger. I know it's not fire season but the butts come flying out the window anyway regardless of the weather.

lostfaith, can you seriously be upset about a working guy finding a place to park his truck for the night?

I found this an interesting link. A list of the financial institution contributions to American politicians. Obama is second from the top, and McCain doesn't even make the list, and yet MSM tells us that Obama is the one that has the plan to fix the financial crisis... further condemnation of the MSM IMO.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

IS IT ILLEGAL TO LITTER IN PG? this city is littered with cigarette butts and tim hortons coffee cups. I even saw a RCMP officer throw his cigarette butt out the window of his patrol car!!!!

DOES ANYONE HAVE RESPECT FOR THIS CITY ANYMORE...

New city council,maybe they will listen as this one does not.Or there just slowwww!!
I thought I made a good case in front of em about these BRAIN DEAD speeders in the school Zones,Empty Promises.Before I go further,there are more then a couple that have speed passes[at least they think so] hitting the zone at 60 or better COOL EH!! NOT!!@##@#$ I feel another blockade coming soon,this one will be just me and Elsie!!she's a seasoned protester now.I had the police's attention for about 10 seconds,still waiting for there presents and NOTHING again, not too my surprise.I learned sumpthin from the last one,this time it will be a media circus.....

In response to a comment on another article regarding the number of crashes between PG and CluClutz Lake(hehe). After many years of travelling between Northwest BC and Vancouver, I would have to rate the PG and Vanderhoof stretch as the most dangerous. Perhaps it's the bad air creating havoc with the synapses or just cowboy bravado. It is this stretch of Highway 16 that is typically fast moving, and yet some morons pull the most suicidal passes in attempt to minutely shorten their driving phenomenon. Now I don't much care for the speeding arguments, contrary to the accusations that speed kills, but idiots cause far more carnage. Why some moron decides that passing before a hill crest is sensible is beyond me. After being rerouted off of Highway 16 so police could investigate the carnage at a Fraser Lake mishap, I had the pleasure of seeing the aftermath off two drivers' poor choices. Fortunately I don't think they paid with their lives.

I also had the privilege of fueling up in rural PG and following a driver who decided it was best to enjoy some substance for his drive. Now I have no qualms about what people do in the privacy of their homes, but on the road is another story. This needs to be put to a halt and the laws and judges need to provide reform. No warnings, no slaps on the wrists, immediate suspension of driving privileges for minimum 5 years for the first offence. Any alcohol or substance found inside a vehicle unsecured, regardless of whose it is also deserves the same sentence. I like many others do indulge, but unlike others I opt to reward myself after the journey. For all the cans of Budweiser strewn on Highway 16, it is apparent there is an epidemic of immorality, and evidence of a culture who can't even distinguish between a good beer and sewer filtrate.

B.C. Racer our gas does not to my knowledge go to the lower drainland, they have refineries in Poco and Ioco but you are still right about the 7 cents, it sure appears to be unfair to us northern types, even more so to Fort Saint Jean at 1.499/l.
E's Daddie; the only present you are going to get from the fuzz is a pair of bracelets and a warning to not bang your forehead on the car roof as they load you into the back seat, arrested for trying to do their job for them (they get embarrassed) Do you know anyone at Columbia Bitulithic or Pittman? Mayhap you could surreptiously install some silent policemen (speed bumps) to try and slow the vehicles of the stupid who only care about themselves.
On another topic, does anyone know if there is any tangible work being done on the to dredge or not to dredge project in the Nechako/Fraser?
metalman.

lol Kagee.

Posted by: Eagleone on September 19 2008 8:22 AM
lostfaith, can you seriously be upset about a working guy finding a place to park his truck for the night?
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Actually eagle I get upset with people like you that don't give a crap about other peoples rights.
Who are you to question what I should or shouldn't get upset about?

Why would you think this is a case of me being upset about some working guy finding a place to park his truck for the night?
There is a bit more to it than that. But I wouldn't expect you to understand, so I will tune you in a little.


This guy can park his employers truck in his employers own parking lot located in an industrial part of town that is zoned for that purpose. My home is located in a residential area of town that is not zoned for such a purpose. That is why I bought my home in the area that I did.
Does that make any sense to you?

How would you like to have large trucks parked in your backyard belching diesel exhaust smoke into your house while you are trying to sleep? How would you like gobs of grease and puddles of oil all over the ground where you walk with your family? How would you like the diesel engine clattering in your ear at 3am?

Everyone moans and groans about the condition of our residential streets.
Does it make any sense to you whatsoever that these heavy trucks destroy our city streets?
Niether the owners or the operators of these trucks are paying extra taxes to pay for the damage they do to our streets, do they?
As a matter of fact did we not just have our taxes increased twice over the past year just to pay for street repairs?
Why do you think there are "no heavy truck" signs everywhere?

Are you the owner of one of the trucks that parks wherever they see fit?
Most trucking companies have their own parking areas.

The only reason these trucks are parking in residential areas is because the drivers don't want to pay for their own fuel to get to and from work.

I have a serious issue with these trucks parking in any residential area where it is illegal to do so, don't you?

It is prohibited for a reason.
Tell me why that is eagle.

I can arrange for some of these trucks to
come park in your backyard if you would like.

Posted by: Runner46 on September 19 2008 8:14 AM
Lostfaith,

have you phone bylaws at City Hall????

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LMAO your kidding right?
I probably have the largest complaint file regarding this issue than anyone in town.
Have you ever talked to that women on the phone at bylaw services?
She makes everyone feel as though they are the ones that are breaking the law.

The last truck that was parking down there was complained about everyday for 3 weeks before it actually stopped parking there.

Posted by: Runner46 on September 19 2008 8:05 AM
Regarding Mayors race.

Please note the difference out of the gate of both candidates.

One has a glitzy press conference complete with posters n banners n website while the other sends out a press release.

I personally think that speaks volumes for the style of the two candidates.
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I don't really know what style has got to do with anything, but it really shows one thing.
One has no regard for the value of money and the other does.

Posted by: acrider54 on September 19 2008 8:15 AM
Phone Elite
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Tried that once.

Lostfaith, I agree with eagleone. What is the harm in a working man trying to park his rig somehwere close to home. I knew someone in college heights that drove truck. He would occasionally try to park at home, but some snot nosed neighbor constantly called bylaw. He owned his home, paid his taxes, worked hard, was trying to raise a family and was constantly kicked in the teeth by this irate neighbor. Perhaps the neighbor should have moved.....

Nice attitude, Lindy.

Believe me I NEVER agree with Lostfaith, but this is an exception.

You let one truck park in residential areas then you better be ok will all of them firing up their trucks at 3am, making the streets virtually impassible and what not. If you want to take your truck home you should live in Beaverly. Residential streets are no place for these trucks. There are also serious safety concerns if children are playing with this type of traffic around.

Whether you agree with the bylaw about trucks or not is irrelevant. The fact is that it is a bylaw and should be followed.

I have to agree with lostfaith 110% here. To suggest that it is OK to break the law because you personally don't feel it is harming anyone is ignorant, to say the least. What gives you the right to decide what will, or will not, harm another person or their standard of living?? He also pays taxes, likely works hard, likely tries to raise a family and is obviously constantly kicked in the teeth by ignorant neighbors who have no respect for laws.

Lostfaith feels he is being harmed and that's enough for me. The law is the law whether you like it or not. To call someone "snotnose" because they want to see a law enforced is beyond ignorant.

I don't agree Lindylou and my husband drives those big trucks. Lostfaith is 100% right. And, no the neighbour should not move. The trucker should be severly fined for parking illegally. It is against the lie, period, end of story!!!

Sorry, typo, s/b 'it is against the law'.

I had a rig parking on my street and it is absolutley true that they fire up the truck at all hours of the night, disrupting our sleep (not just mine, but my whole family) and... it blocked the street. It was next to impossible to back out of my driveway and see past the truck. Kids riding bikes had to see past this thing and it was very dangerous. If I wanted to be exposed to this sort of disruption, I would have bought a house in the industrial area.

There is a bylaw for a reason. Not just due to noise and inconvenience, but for safety.

Prince George was well represented on national television on Wednesday.

For those who don't know, Izaak Smith was sent through to the finals on the hugely popular show "So You Think You Can Dance Canada."

Izaak was trained at Judy Russell's Enchainement Dance Centre and was last year's Nutcracker Prince.

You can view his audition on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KykJRV5oAxo

What would jesus do for a klondike bar?.. Sorry folks im bored with politics.. Have a good weekend.

Anyone that doesn't care about where these trucks park can email me their home address and I will have all my trucker friends accommodate you.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against anyone that owns or operates a truck. I myself did the job for 4 years.
I do have a problem with anybody that has no respect for their neighbours or our city bylaws.
We have these bylaws for a reason.
We have some bylaws that are completely stupid but most are only common sense.
I have nothing but condemnation for Bylaw services in the city. They have consistantly refused to uphold many of our bylaws.

The biggest one next to the truck parking issue is our cities noise bylaw.
Good luck to anyone trying to have that one enforced.

Posted by: Lindylou on September 19 2008 10:17 AM
Lostfaith, I agree with eagleone. What is the harm in a working man trying to park his rig somehwere close to home. I knew someone in college heights that drove truck. He would occasionally try to park at home, but some snot nosed neighbor constantly called bylaw. He owned his home, paid his taxes, worked hard, was trying to raise a family and was constantly kicked in the teeth by this irate neighbor. Perhaps the neighbor should have moved.....
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Where did the nice truckdriver friend of yours live?
I have personally been responsible for at least a dozen trucks in College heights, being booted from my neighbourhood over the past 20 years and damn proud of it.
Let him know you may have been in contact with the person that wouldn't put up with his selfishness.

That is great news about Izaak Smith. Another PG shinning star.Judy Russell does have a knack for developing talent.
That is just another good eason for the importance of a functional performing arts centre.

Most residential streets are not designed for rigs to move up and down them on a continuos basis, they will fundementally either rut the streets or crack them. Cracked pavement will evenutally develope into potholes. Potholes, hey, nobody likes them.

Main streets like 5th Ave, 15th, bypass, Carney, Massey, Ospika and Foothill are designed for loaded Rigs.

Personally, The tractors can be parked at residential, if it is on private driveways. The trailers should be left at the yard. No yard, then make arrangements with a person with a yard. If the trailers are parked in the streets. Lock up the tires, $100.00 to get them unlocked. If you cut the locks, $1000.00 This is what the bylaws should be doing.

What about those drivers that leave loaded trailers in the Carter Light Industrial areas, making snow removal difficult. Fine them. No free rides, do you think Canadian Freightways, Bandstra, Van-Kam and these other legitimate business own a yard and pay taxes because it is fun. No, your in the trucking business, pay your dues, everyone has the same costs. Don't push the envelope. Level out the playing field. The final end consumer pays for the difference anyway. So what if a 2x4 cost $1.85, or $1.89, in the grand scheme of things we keep the loaded and empty trailers from being on the streets over night.

Is it me, or is Dionne giving away more money than the system can sustain. So essentially, he just wants to give more away, create more debt, and or raise our taxes. How naive does he think we are. it does not matter if he taxes the people or the industry, its just more taxes.

It was just 50 years ago, there was no lazy people around. If they were lazy, they went hungry. If the working person did not plan for retirement, they worked til they died. There is no excuse why a person can not work. All of these people using mental health issues, bi-polar, and all of these type of items, are just too lazy to suck it and become a part of a working society. Boo hoo hoo, you have issues, deal with it. Suck it up and stop being a burden on the rest of us that has deal with adversity. Don't pull yourself out of the work force and use it as a crutch because its the easy way out. if you need to take a couple of months, take it off at your own expense.

Every one wants a hand out, well, as tax payer, if you can't make money at it. Get out of the industry, let the market place determine what they will pay for your product instead of using grants to subsidize the industry.

Just ranting.

Hey why don't we start posting on the Blog sites all the illegally parked trailers.

OK He speaks, we will allow all tractors to park in your neighbourhood as long as you are not my neighbour.
Your neighbours will love you.
Is your neighbourhood zoned for truck parking? If it is, hey thats great for those that need to live in a residential area that welcomes them.

My area is not zoned for them, therefore they have no legal business parking there.

As far as trailers being parked on the streets in the carter light industrial area, is it zoned for that or do you just think they shouldn't be there because you would like the snow removal to improve?

Good one He speaks, I didn't realize all those that had mental health issues were all a bunch of lazy bum's

lostfaith, if my neighbor was a trucker, sure bring his (owner/operator) rig home, as long as he parks it in his driveway. He/she is just a person trying make a living.

Carter light industrial, yes it is not zoned for parking trailers in the street.

Posted by: Born in BC on September 19 2008 10:34 AM
Believe me I NEVER agree with Lostfaith, but this is an exception.
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I LOVE YOU MAN ;~)

Laws are laws and bylaws are bylaws. Some people just think they are above it all. Now, if there was a law against the excessively loud harley whose owner heads to work at 5:30 a.m., I'd be a huge fan. The machine is so loud that is actually triggers the neighbor's car alarm. If complaining about this makes me a snot nosed neighbor, then hand me a tissue.

Just attended J.J.'s service at the cemetary, it was great to see so many people turn out who knew him!!

RIP my friend!!

Just like no jake brakes in city limits. Ya what a joke that law is.

Gardengirl there are noise laws for vehicles and motorcycles. For decible output. Not sure how you would have it inforced or measured.

We call these type of people, where the law and respect for others doesnt apply to them. Priority people, You can also find these people parked in handicap zone.
HeHe
Fish

I'm sure glad this accident the other day did not happen during winter. Everyone would be blaming the poor maintenance. Remember this winter what ever excuse they use on sunny bright clear days still applies in winter.

$8.1 million bucks fer a 30 unit building for the homeless? We have thousands of homeless here in Canada. At that rate maybe we might have to spend $85 BILLION dollars to house all of them. Won't life be grand then?

Harbinger - yes 8.1 million is ridiculous, that translates to $270,000 per unit!! For one bedroom homeless person suites! You can build a 1200 square foot house including land for that price. How is such phenomenal waste acceptable in the public sector?

$8,100,000.00, that is almost all of the provincial income taxes paid by 3000 working person each year. There is something wrong in this picture. This is just the capital cost, what is the operational cost of this place each year. sure there is a Geothermal and all, but I bet its going to cost the tax payers $500,000.00 a year. For the cost of operations.

Cheaper to subsidize a sleaze hole hotel. ............ Oh "the Bus" burned down

lost faith, not neccessarily lazy bums, but too lazy to deal with the issues. thus the result is they pull themselves out of society and become bums.

meisner's back. Finally a radio station that has enough will power to put him on the air.

Posted by: gardengirl on September 19 2008 1:03 PM
Laws are laws and bylaws are bylaws. Some people just think they are above it all. Now, if there was a law against the excessively loud harley whose owner heads to work at 5:30 a.m., I'd be a huge fan. The machine is so loud that is actually triggers the neighbor's car alarm. If complaining about this makes me a snot nosed neighbor, then hand me a tissue.
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There are one or two of those knobs in College Heights as well Gardengirl.
Excessive noise bylaws are taken care of by the RCMP while the vehicle is actually being ridden on public streets.
If the knobs are creating a disturbance while on their property it's the great city bylaw dept that is supposed to look after it.
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Posted by: fish on September 19 2008 1:18 PM
Just like no jake brakes in city limits. Ya what a joke that law is.

Gardengirl there are noise laws for vehicles and motorcycles. For decible output. Not sure how you would have it inforced or measured.

We call these type of people, where the law and respect for others doesnt apply to them. Priority people, You can also find these people parked in handicap zone.
HeHe
Fish
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Fish
Some towns have signs regarding the use of jakebrakes in city limits.
Some of these signs say "Please avoid use of engine retarders/jakebrakes within city limits"
"Please avoid" means it's legal to use them.
Other signs say "Use of engine retarders/jakebrakes Prohibited"
Self explanitory.
There are those trucks that run straight pipe exhaust and their jakes are obnoxious everywhere. Most trucks with factory quiet exhaust are barely noticeable in most cases.
There are many places that jakes are totally useless, (like the bypass or when empty).

Jakes are meant to be used to assist in braking the unit to maintain a safe downhill speed while helping to avoid overheating the brakes.
Therefore they are quite reasonably used on all our hills coming into and around town.

Those cowboys that use them in town when empty are the same type of person that runs straight pipes on their harley's.
They just gotta be noticed. Even at 5:30 am.

As far as the decibel limits placed on motorvehicle exhaust goes, That is the responsibility of ICBC/RCMP and are easily determined to be within legal limits when the decibels are measured using a meter designed for that purpose.

Niether ICBC or the RCMP in PG have one of these meters and therefore there is no legal way anyone here in PG can be charged with exceeding the limits.

Can't wait to NOT listen to Meisner again.

More information on the destruction that open netpen Salmon farming is having on our environment.
Just say NO to farmed Salmon.

http://www.livingoceans.org/programs/fishfarms/

But that homeless shelter is green, we should all be happy. It will keep all the Suzuki and Gore clones happy.

Gas came down a few peso's!!

There are sound measuring devices available for a few pesos. Testing is not an issue. The issue is more that the courts don't have the time for dealing with the appeals for these tickets, so as they say "why bother". Earplugs are cheap.

There are sound measuring devices available for a few pesos. Testing is not an issue. The issue is more that the courts don't have the time for dealing with the appeals for these tickets, so as they say "why bother". Earplugs are cheap.

I have a couple of things to throw out there and see what everyone thinks.

The first one is about cancer. Now don't get me wrong, cancer is a huge problem that needs to be solved and I am not trying to belittle any research or the idea of raising money. But do we know where all that money is going. Take breast cancer, with all the adds and media bombardment one would almost think there are no other types of cancer. I just wonder is it about finding a cure or is it more of an industry. Where is all this money going? Who is making a living of this and how much?

My other thought is the upcoming take back the night. Violence against women and children. Now there are lots of places in this city and country that I will not travel alone at night unless armed and the liberal types in this country will not let travel armed.

Now violence against women, yes that has to stop, but what about violence against men by women. If one follows the news women seem to be holding their own in the violence department against men and children. How about the women that killed her baby in the microwave. If one does some research on the internet there is lots of information on violence against men by women. The violence works out to 50 50.

Lets stop violence period and not make an industry out of it.

Violence against women and children by men
is much higher. Women also tend not to take their whole family with them, like men tend to do. Men are much more violent towards women and children. The stats are out there.
As for cancer, I believe money also goes towards education for preventive check ups.
I think their is a few types of breast cancer.I think the survival rate from having cancer is much higher than even 20 years ago

seamutt - you are correct and I totally agree with you with the violence towards men incidents. approximatley 40% of domestic violence reports consist of violence of men by women.


Take back the night is not about only women and is not only in reference to domestic violence.

http://www.takebackthenight.org/history.html

“Common components of Take Back the Night rallies include candlelight vigils, empowerment marches, and survivor testimonials. The goals and specific features of a TBTN rally are just as varied as its vast array of supporters. Throughout its history, Take Back the Night has inspired both women and men to confront a myriad of social ills, including rape, sexual violence, domestic violence, violence against children, and violence against women. The unifying theme throughout these diverse topics is the assertion that all human beings have the right to be free from violence, the right to be heard, and the right to reclaim those rights if they are violated.”

This is something that everyone, in my opinion, should participate in.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/42/15/31-a

Info regarding violence against men by women. Interesting read. There is far more of it out there than people think.

So your saying 40% eh! Women rape and sexually assault and murder men and children are that high of numbers.

Posted by: pisspulper on September 19 2008 3:26 PM
There are sound measuring devices available for a few pesos. Testing is not an issue. The issue is more that the courts don't have the time for dealing with the appeals for these tickets, so as they say "why bother". Earplugs are cheap.
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Why is testing not an issue? If you read the cities noise, nuisance and disturbance bylaw you will see testing is indeed an issue.
If testing can't be done due to the fact there is no decibel level meters in PG why do we have such a bylaw?
Disturbing the peace is an issue.
All citizens have the right to peace and quiet in and around their homes 24/7/365, correct?
This includes the very annoying car stereo pounding out the bass as they drive around residential neighbourhoods at all hours.

This is the reason we have a noise bylaw here in PG, as does most every other town in BC.
Its a bylaw designed to keep all the brain dead under control.

The horse racing track is the only place where the windows clean the people.

Posted by: fish on September 19 2008 4:27 PM
So your saying 40% eh! Women rape and sexually assault and murder men and children are that high of numbers.
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I would bet that in reality the numbers are even higher than 40%.
Not all men would report that they were abused by a women.

You can not count what is not reported. Men are in the news all the time for murdering their wifes or girl friends.
And men sexually assulting little boys and girls. Men tend to be in a positions of power. Which also increases their percentages for abuse.

Gas in Fort St John.....1.53 ... 3 city buses on the road in a very short route around the city....no alternative transportation...no relief in sight!

In respect to the shocking vandalism at the Prince George cemetery: Even the final resting places of people's loved ones are not safe from the moron vandals!!!

People, it's past high time to get a handle on this lawless, spineless society!

Arrest the little bastards and ship them to a country where public caning is still being done!

Over and out!

The following video was recorded on May 21,2008 at the Coast Habourside Hotel B.C. with lawyer Stephen Shrybman Council for Sack Goldblatt Mitchell LLB. It is a 30 minute interview that deals with Tilma. Mr. Shrybman was hired by C.U.P.E. B.C to give his legal opinion regarding Tilma to the union. At the end of the news conference, he informs us how Tilma will integrate with NAFTA and the SPP.



With the new meetings being set up on Oct.17 after the elections, you can see, from this video how it will play into the negotiations.



http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6519828996242808803

@fish

You should read a book called "When She Was Bad...: Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence" by Patricia Pearson.

http://tinyurl.com/4h9ko7

You'd be especially shocked at the stats about abuse of children and elderly - mostly women.

Also, at the time the book was written, 1 in 4 serial killers in the US were women, and they were better at it than men - higher body count per killer.

The book does an excellent job going into the STYLISTIC differences between men's violent acts and women's - men tend to be direct (physical, external), where women tend to be indirect (emotional, use of power agents like police, trapping)

That book helped us recognize and understand the techniques behind the (normal) violent behaviour of our daughter toward her brothers. We were able to teach her that her picking and digging and manipulation were just as violent as their hitting - and NONE of it was acceptable. We were able to show her that her style of violence was a power play, just like physical violence often is.

Consider this scenario:

girl at brother: pick, pick, dig, dig...

brother to girl: SMACK!

girl: MOMMY! (indirect power agent)

mother: gives son trouble for hitting sister

girl: smiles; power play a success!

We need to open our eyes to ALL STYLES of violent behaviour, not just the "male" style.

Posted by: diplomat on September 19 2008 5:10 PM
In respect to the shocking vandalism at the Prince George cemetery: Even the final resting places of people's loved ones are not safe from the moron vandals!!!

People, it's past high time to get a handle on this lawless, spineless society!

Arrest the little bastards and ship them to a country where public caning is still being done!

Over and out!
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We can do the caning at my house

couger won 5-2!!!! lets hope that this is a good omen! On another note: the law is the law, you have to follow the law or consequences will happen...not saying anything...but it could be flat tires...

you are right on the money diplomat, and take it a step backward, bring the strap back into the school system!! Bring back public flogging in front of the court house!! The problem will not be eliminated all together, but, I'll bet the ones that are flogged, won't come back for seconds, and nor will their buddies.

What a pathetic government, judicial system, law enforcement/RCMP fiasco we have.

And on that note, Wilson Square would be a good place to erect the old style gallows!!
You know, the one they erected, while the prisoner looked on!! When it was done, they drop him like a bag of garbage that he/she was.

Bring back the rope, and public flogging!! It is time we took back our town!!