here is an idea for the union.
Why don't you the union, purchase the mill.
Then you can experience the profits for your own members that have benefited the previous owners.
This will put you 200+ members back to work!

LOL. You from Harmac?

Bang on Loki.

The same mill workers that vilify the imaginary 'fat cat' corporate owner would never invest their own (or their union's) money by purchasing a pulp mill (or any other business).

Not in a million years.

Yes the unions have all the ideas how things should be run. They expect a employer to make sure they owe everyone a living, but they would not take on this challenge because they would FAIL. The unions have all the anwers but when called to the carpet, they back away. UNIONS show us how business oriented you really are, and pay really high wages and excellent benifits like you expect all employers to pay. Lets see how long your are in business.

Actually the union members that ponied up to buy the ex-New York Times paper mill in Smooth Rock Falls made out like bandits. Once the idiotic management was gone, the union members who ran the place anyway turned it around and within 2 years had sold it to Tembec. Many mill workers became millionaires.
Tell me some stories about how smart the corporations that run these mills are. I know precious few. From Canfor building bridges in the wrong place, or deciding to move to "just in time" roadbuilding (just in time for a rainy summer and an extra 12 million in road building costs) its a wonder these companies make any money at all.

Why is the union blamed for the corporate failure of the business in the above posts. Maybe just maybe Abitibi was plain incompetent and their management couldn't run a common household budjet. When I go to work for a corporation I do expect they owe me a living in exchange for my skill in my field of work. Otherwise I would not be a worker I would be a volunteer. Maybe incompetent corporate management could be secured in Canada, if the working people of Canada, would become corporate volunteers.

"..the union members that ponied up to buy the ex-New York Times paper mill in Smooth Rock Falls made out like bandits.."

Excellent! Maybe the big unions can do the samething at Mackenzie. Less talk more action.

The hourly group at the Paper mill was just as much at fault for the Paper mill demise as was the management group. The union does not have the intestinal fortitude to run a plant like the Abbibow paper mill. Having said that, the mangers that were in the position of running the plants did not fair well either. The remaining indication of some very bad decisions made in the Mackenzie Region by the companies appointed leaders at the Paper mill and Sawmills still remain in the form those that were kept back on retainer. These people were kept back to run the plants in case the plants ever started up again........Pretty sorry bunch in my opinion.