My thoughts and prayers go to the families and friends of these two young adults taken too soon. I cannot imagine their pain.

Yes we need to send condolences to criminals who lose...get real! Get educated about gangs to protect your loved ones. Intervention is necessary if you want your friend or family member to survive.
Before I get attacked about insensitive to their families, I will say yes mourning sucks. How can I have empathy for criminals? Yes they were young. But they also knew the difference between right and wrong. They chose their path. The families and "friends" are just as guilty for not doing anything about it as far as I am concerned.

Dear tinyapplecork

That is by far the dumbest post that I have ever read.

You think the people close to Garret and Brittany arent wishing that they had done more, something, anything? Not every criminal comes from broken homes or the ghetto. Sometimes people are just a little bit broken. Sometimes there is little that can be done. Sometimes despite the best efforts of many, things go terribly wrong.

Even though you are CLEARLY an idiot I truly hope that you dont find out that sometimes bad things happen to people that do not deserve it. Do you really think these kids deserved to be murdered?

I may be an idiot, but I will always know that I am less of an idiot than you.

I guess thats somewhat comforting.

ditto..............

Well said tiny.

How narrow-minded and selfish can tinyapplecork be! Obviously by "tiny" he is referring to the size of his brain and heart! Intervention and tough love do not work for everyone! Maybe you will find out the hard way when it is someone you love but you can't reach or help. It doesn't matter that these two young people were involved in gangs - it is a sad loss to their families. Maybe you should help out at St. Vincent de Paul and see where some of these young people come from - what type of upbrining they have had (or haven't had). Sometimes a gang ofers them the only type of a "family" they have ever known.

Get a life, tiny-one!

I think its funny how some of the "regulars" on this site read a news story with limited information and then let their imaginations fill in blanks.

"The families and "friends" are just as guilty for not doing anything about it as far as I am concerned."

How do you know they didnt try? oh, right. Because your imagination has lead you to believe that you know and understand where these kids came from and how involved their families and friends were in their lives. Hey, can you use your imagination to figure out who did it and bring them to justice too? That'd be awesome. (Please note the dripping sarcasm)

I think in this case holding any opinons back would be the best option.

Perhaps tinyapplecork should be added to the ignore list of posts not worthy of reading.

Yeah, tiny's not exactly politically correct is he?

As for the two young lives lost, it is tragic that the lifestyle choices these two young people made sealed their fate. Who knows how involved their families were in their lives, and now it doesn't seem to matter much.

I'd guess this won't be the last gang-related violence we hear about. What will truly be tragic is when some innocent bystander gets caught in the crossfire or explosion.

mommy,

You're assuming just like you had shunned me for doing in the Webber Cres. gun raid thread.

Believe it or not, lots of these new gangsters in town don't come from the dregs of society. Many of them come from affluent and good families. If you knew any of them you would know it to be true.



Terrible loss for both families, so sad it had to come to this for both of them.

Not all gangsters come from the dregs of society, but they all end up there.

I know some dead gangsters, once they are in, there is only one way out.

Those posts of condolences are just silly. Those kinds of posts are simply for the poster to make themselves feel good, it's called drivel snivel. BooHoo..

Oh Mommy dearest: Sounds like you are condoneing gang membership to youths who are products of a poor family upbringing.
Warped, truly warped.

Remember it was sad while they were alive too. No where in my post did I say nor imply that they deserved it. Unpopular as my view is I have a question for you:

Why does it not matter that they were involved in a gang? Had this been a middle aged male charged with murder, subsequently killed by vigilantism I highly doubt any of you would have empathy or condolences for him!

Tiny you assume a lot I guess thats why you keep ass company with Yama. We don't know these peoples character other than they were linked to gang violence. I don't think being linked to a gang alone is reason enough to see people killed and then cheer about it. It shows ignorance and a lack of empathy IMO.

Sounds to me like they were on the receiving end of the violence... so obviously there is a worse dude out there that is still walking our streets. Just because there is a worse dude walking around our streets doesn't mean the vanquished got their just deserves. It simply means another scum of the earth willing to be more violent killed off some competition that couldn't match the level of ruthlessness to stay alive.

How do we know these people weren't simply trying to get out, or maybe they were just dope dealers playing the role to be cool while going to church on Sundays. We don't know, so I do not think it is appropriate to dance on a dead persons grave. Maybe when tiny kicks the can we can all go and relieve ourselves on his grave to remember how tiny lived when....

Exactly Eagleone!
Do I feel sad because they have died? No I do not. Do I feel sad for a parent who has lost a child...of course.
Perhaps some of you should reread my post instead of just a few choice words. But alas, I am just today's punching bag. I will admit I used strong comments to express my views. However, I will not sugarcoat my comments on a serious issue such as gang violence. Nor will I apologize for my opinion.

while you are all trying to gang up on yama and applecork, no one seems to want to say anything about the victims??you know the young school kids that these gangsta's/scum pray on.Non of you want to mention the pain and suffering that families have to endure because while they were not looking someone came into their school and sold them some dope and 1 year later people find out their kid is a junkie.you bleeding hearts are the problem IMO

They are just not saying where the were shot. Now does the version that I presented of the events start to make more sense?

I mean where they were shot as in at what location in town. Not where on their bodies.

Rick, can you explain why any of this matters?

I could care less what a persons background is. Too bad so sad.

The bottom line is it doesn't matter who you are or where you're from, we ALL know right from wrong, don't we.

Some people are simply too damn lazy to earn a living the way most honest people do and they want everything as quickly as possible.

You make your own decisions and therefore you alone deal with whatever the consequences are.

Don't want to get burnt? Don't play with fire.

Simple huh?

These two were that day's victims, but on any other day they might have been the victimizers to someone else!

What are the chances any one else in their "line of work" would learn from their tragedy? Slim and none, I bet. You are known by the company you keep.

Hmm the police knew who the non invited to both funerals were and stopped several vehicles of interest... Bling Bling
We know who the bad guys are so lets make it less glamourus and not so easy to make the money. Take away the fancy vehicles they drive that are products of the easy money. The next time they are stopped take that vehicle to. Seize all properties that have any link to proceeds of crime, even if it is just a rental. maybe then the absentee landowners will check who they are renting to.
If we make the life style less glamourus maybe our children will not look at it as an easy way to make money or to gain status in thier peers eyes. I wonder how many parents sat their kids down after this terrible event and explained to them about life choices..
we must also remind the media that our childern are infuenced by what hey see and maybe we need more stories about positive reinforcement and good role models..

i think slick_rick is gonna have a visit from the local detachement pretty quick lol

This "idiot...uncaring...tiny brain & heart" has done research. Do yours!
http://www.richmond.ca/safety/police/prevention/children/violence.htm

Just ignore them Tiny

Posted by: FrankRizzo on October 17 2008 2:03 PM
i think slick_rick is gonna have a visit from the local detachement pretty quick lol
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Wouldn't surprise me Rizzo. This person seems to be posting some pretty odd information here for sure.

I suspect slick-rick may be on the good guys side (possibly a member of our finest?)
Thanks for any insight from him.
Oh, and I am sorry but my sentiment remains the same - very sorry to the family and ZERO remorse to dead gang members
Give your kids an extra hug tonight

I have nothing further to say, today.

The sad part is that everyone here seems to be condoning the work of a serial killer that is still on the lose by rationalizing that the people killed were acceptable offerings to the serial killer thereby condoning his actions? Furthermore I see no virtue in dancing on a dead persons grave even if they are involved in some nasty hypotheticals while alive. To me that is the work of a coward that takes the low road to make a point.

There are no winners in this game. The two who were killed, have lost their lives, and any potential for good that might have come out in the future.

The killer will never forget what he's done. Initially, he (or she) will feel euphoria (I'm guessing), and eventually will start questioning the actions of the day. And participation in that violent world, he may indeed, suffer the same consequences perpetrated on his two current victims.

Live by the sword, die by the sword - the old saying goes. Being young people, they probably thought they were invincible, and escaping death a few months ago, fortified that belief, no doubt.

And now, we have a killer walking in our midst. Perhaps no different than soldiers who come home from war, living with their demons, but condoned by society because what they have done is considered just. What the killer of these two youngsters now, has been branded, a criminal. Yet, in their mind, they are fighting a war, the only difference in society's mind, is that one is just, the other one criminal.

I'm not that old, but I sure think we live in violent, turbulent times. Was this violence a part of life 40 or 50 years ago, or 100? Did people question the senseless violence back then too?

Posted by: interceptor on October 17 2008 8:13 PM
I suspect slick-rick may be on the good guys side (possibly a member of our finest?)
Thanks for any insight from him.
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You're only kiddin us right? Can you imagine having someone with an attitude like his being "one of the good guy's".