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Each Unit At The New Backpacker Will Cost About $266 Thousand Dollars

By Ben Meisner

Friday, October 17, 2008 03:44 AM

The first Civic political forum took place in the city Thursday. The forum began with a talk by the NDP’s David Chudnovsky, who is the critic for Homelessness and mental health.

If there is an effort being made to focus the civic election on the homeless it is hard to understand why. Why you ask? Well at last count the job of looking after the homeless falls under the umbrella of the provincial and federal governments. Unless the new council would like to call upon the taxpayers to put up money in an area that they should be called on to finance, the issue should not have been discussed.

I found a lot of fault with Chudnovsky’s speech. He talked about each homeless person costs about $55,000 dollars to look after, while housing them costs, $37,000 a year. I don’t know how or who came up with these figures , but using them would suggest that if you gave every homeless person in the city a check for $4,583.00 every month it would be the equivalent of what we spend now to look after them .   That figure by the way would be after taxes and would be far more than the average worker earns in this city or for that matter in most cities in Canada.

Suggesting that providing housing for the homeless doesn’t come with a cost leaves me wondering who did the math in the Backpacker development. That project is now expected to come in at $8 million dollars for 30 units. That equates to $266,000 per unit which is far in excess of what the average home is worth in this city. I might also mention that the residence will also require supervision. So let’s see, $266 grand a copy, no taxes paid on the units that you live in, and an added cost for the supervision.

Again Chudnovsky suggested that the total homeless in BC was about the population of Williams Lake, about 10 to 12 thousand. He said that if there were a disaster in that community we would all rush out to help them, and he is right. He however should keep in mind that of that 10 to 12 thousand only (even at today’s figures) 6% would be unemployed, and most would own their own homes. They have gotten to that position but working hard in trying to achieve a goal in life.

Having your own home should come with some responsibility to look after it. The very fact that there will be supervisors at the backpacker more than suggests that not everyone takes that responsibility too seriously.

If city hall try’s to lay the old chestnut on the taxpayers that the reason for tax increases is that the Provincial and federal government are off loading costs onto us, they had better look at what is being sought in this city.

We have a responsibility to look after those who are unable to look after themselves but only to the extent that they must also show responsibility in return.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Well said Ben!
It would seem the problem is not with facilites like the Backpacker as such,but more with what they have a tendancy to become down the road, when the novelty wears off.
It's about responsibility by all concerned and in that respect,I still have some strong reservations!
And I really don't understand why having a decent place to live would make these people change their habits and lifestyles?
Only time will tell.
Ben - the "Backpacker" development as you call it (although I dont think the Backpacker has operated there for some time) is not really a homeless shelter but more of an assisted living for those with issues. From my understanding people will have to qualify to live there and pay costs according to their income - much like BC Housing does in assisting low income renters.

While you appear to be attacking the homeless there are other areas that are breaking down. Able bodied people on welfare that can obviously work - whether they are male or female - every drive by that office on Welfare Wednesday? Most are certainly able to work - hell even Mcdonalds pays 9.50 to start.

Whether you like it or not there are those that need help in succeeding in life - be it from mental illnes, addiction etc. To try and get these people on their feet, working and becoming taxpayers will in the long run more than pay for the cost of the facility.

I heard that the new seniors center on 20th & Victoria cost approx $165,000. per unit. Backpacker $266,000. Something wrong with this picture...
Naw, nothing wrong with your numbers. It is the magic of "volume", Giter... the more you build, the cheaper per unit.

Hence, if there were 1500 units built in FG Park for this transition group, it would be really, really low cost... like about $1241.16 each.

In theory, if you build enough units... the cost eventually becomes $zero... well, it would ... if the "greed factor" didn't come into the picture. (and if builders didn't want to feed their families and pay their bills) :-)

V.


The units are likely different. One is rooms with central kitchen and shared baths. The other probably probably has self contained units, like bachelor apartments. One might be construction cost only, the other might include land and all design services, furniture and other costs.
Seems to me a Supreme Court judge says it is OK fer the homeless to camp in parks. Ft. George Park a campground? Should be interesting. Also, correct me if I am wrong but driving by that mega million dollar homeless shelter on Queensway, I couldn't help but notice there is no set back from the curb on this building. Did the city give them a break about where they could plant the building. Not that I care, but what bothers me is where are the attending RCMP cars and wagon gonna park? In the back? I hope so.
Petty fan; I won't add anything. You have said it for me, too. Thank you.

Ben, I'm not too sure you can just grab a couple numbers like you've done with your article, and proclaim it "white is white, and black is black". It is the responsibility of professional media types such as yourself to do the investigation before writing the column. Do the right thing, and investigate the actual costs of building, maintaining, administration, and long term savings of looking after the homeless, like we will be doing with the new Friendship Lodge building.

Thank you
Dare I say it.....

Socialism In Action!!!!!!!!!