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Dangerous Good Routes Approved, Mayor Opposed

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Tuesday, November 04, 2008 04:00 AM

 
 
Prince George, B.C – The final report on the Dangerous Goods Route has been presented to Prince George City Council. Downtown willlook a little different as the new "preferred" route will  take  dangerous goods  right through the heart of  downtown.  
 
As 20th and Victoria are considered "provincial highways" linking highways  16 and 97,  they are  already cleared for  dangerous goods traffic. Mayor Colin Kinsley  opposed the  dangerous goods route, saying he cannot  imagine directing  dangerous goods through the heart of downtown past all the high rise office buildings.  Mayor Kinsley  says he didn't want to get into a long debate on this, his second last meeting of a long career,  "I am so convinced this is wrong" says Kinsley, who says Queensway is a much better choice because of  openness and lack of congestion.
 
 
The routes are, for the short term, really no different than what is currently in use. They include, Highways 16, 97, the old Cariboo Highway,  First Avenue,  Noranda Road, Northwood Pulpmill Road, P.G. Pulpmill Road, V ictoria Street, and until the Cameron Street bridge is complete, 5th and Carney.
 
It isn’t until there are further developments,  that the medium and long term routes come into play.
 
The medium and long term routes see the end of the use of 5th and Carney, the inclusion of Boundary Road, and, eventually, the use of a new crossing over the Nechako and a new crossing of the Simon Fraser.
 
Ferry Avenue, Queensway, and Foothills were not included in the recommended network due to concerns with environmental and public risks, and because there were alternate routes available.

 

Highway 97 and Highway 16 (Victoria Street and 20th Avenue) are provincial highways which do not restrict dangerous goods traffic. Although these routes are outside the City’s jurisdiction, they have no restrictions on dangerous goods movement according to provincial policy. Therefore, the highways are identified on the network maps for completeness.

 
Below, the medium to long term routes:

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Only morons would approve that kind of a route through the heart of a city...and they want us to vote for them? NOT.
Well Colin Kinsley...for the first time in your "career" I have to agree with you...
I think instead of the new Cameron Street brige we should have built a bridge further upstream on the Fraser and made a whole new road around Prince George.

I guess, in my opinion, we can be thankful this stupidiity and those who voted for it came to light as a city election arrives...
I know who am not voting for...
It's the proposed long term route that gets me. How can you say we have an air quality problem and propose a multi million dollar road that comes off of the cutbanks, crosses the Nechako and brings HD traffic right down into the bowl? CN built their new reload facility in exactly the wrong place (for air quality reasons) and now we're going to bring the infrastructure right to their doors so they can expand at that same location?
Mayor Kinsley is absolutely right. Using Queensway rather than 20th and Victoria is a no-brainer.
Seems we are forgetting the people who live in South Ft George and along Queenway. Im sure they dont want dangerous goods going through there.

Kinsley as usual has got it wrong.

He may have the route wrong but the alternate is every bit as bad....
Kinsley says..." "I am so convinced this is wrong" says Kinsley, who says Queensway is a much better choice because of openness and lack of congestion."

Yup Queensway is a much better choice Kinsley.

Do any of your family members, relatives or friends live along the Queensway corridor??? Obviously not.

What are you thinking dude? People live there.

Frikken DUH.
I can imagine all of our seniors are very pleased that this dangerous goods route runs right by the new seniors complex at 20th & Victoria. Might I be so bold as to suggest a fourth option be considered. One that runs through city hall parking lot. Under no circumstances will I be voting for any incumbant councillors in the civic election. Time to put a new broom in city hall and clean it up.
The insanity continues. If the old Cariboo was the connector between highway 16 and 97 then logic would dictate that all costs for a dangerous goods route would be provincial and federal shared... and the city taxpayer would not be on the hook for provincial and federal infrastructure costs in the tens of millions of dollars.

Furthermore using the Old Cariboo as the designated connector would mean there is no reason why 20th and Victoria, or Queensway should ever be used for dangerous goods. Why can't a truck be forced, as a cost of doing business, to go around the other way. Longer if from point to point in town, but I'm not aware of any point to point dangerous goods in the city, so therefore no real distance change if traveling through town. In addition to that, the much needed dangerous goods routes could then be partnered by the senior government tax pools... and the infrastructure for a clean air future in the city of PG could be that much closer to a reality as industrial infrastructure becomes accessible outside the city air shed.

What I notice most of all is that its like these planners look only at the city map, and because the old cariboo is outside city limits it is not considered as part of any future city plans... because that would mean less future city tax revenues for the city to spend. Its wrong because it condemns the people of PG to bad air quality driven by bureaucratic greed and empire building for potential tax dollars to fund their vision of our future.

The city boundary should be ignored when a dangerous goods route is finally planned for this city in the future, and it shouldn't be the city planners doing the planning, nor 'consultants' hired to do their work either reaching the same conclusions. I think it should be the senior levels of government doing their own independent study of the situation (Boundary Road?) and stepping forward to represent this city in a meaningful way with leadership and the funding to correct this historical wrong that has been done to every past resident of this city who has ever died a premature death as a result of the most idiotic industrial/urban planning done almost anywhere in North America. Its time for the likes of our local MLA's and MP's to take responsability that is theirs and represent this city on the issues of air quality and the industrial infrastructure that is part of the air quality problem as well as their responsibility.

The next city councilor that tells me they will solve this problems will not get my vote because they will just be a continuation of the fraud. I will vote for the candidates that have the insight to realize these are provincial and federal problems that plague our city... and who will be willing to correctly point the finger at the federal and provincial representatives and hold them to the fire to accept the responsibility that they (MP's and MLA's) all deny is theirs, thus our problem.

So far I see no municipal candidates willing to tell it like it is. They either feel they will save the city with city tax dollars, or they will save the city by withholding tax dollars, but none to date have seriously considered the concept of senior layers of government having their role and responsibilities defined especially on issues like regional infrastructure and air quality...homelessness... which are the cities biggest issues of need (out of the municipal candidates control (rightly so), but as local as local gets).

20th and Victoria as a dangerous goods route simply saves the city the cost of maintaining that section of road and that is it. Maybe if they were paying the whole cost of a new bridge for us it would be acceptable, but they are not... so the situation simply is not acceptable and that is the only decision this city council has to make from my point of view.



Hazardous goods have been and will be continuing to travel Fifth and Carney. Lots of folks adjoin that route. The present Council didn't seem to care about these folks.
The present council all need to GO AWAY now. It is time for a more progressive group of people who have more common sense. This decision is a good example of why enough is enough.