Hopefully no one was injured.

But, I fear we may hear a lot more stories this winter about loaded logging trucks on or near Chief Lake Road. With an estimated 15000 trucks expected to use the road this winter; 24 hours a day, 5 days a week, there's bound to be plenty of issues.

GET RID OF THE S CORNER!

The power is always being knocked out here because someone has slid off one of the corners and taken out a power pole.A few years ago the city did a bunch of surveying on this corner and residents were hopeful the S would be straightened (it seemed like a no brainer) as there is heavy logging truck use as well as heavy use from a large population of residents, but instead they just widened the existing S (but not nearly enough) After many complaints of the S being too narrow and the edges having too sharp of a drop, as well of complaints of people being thrown into the ditch because of the poor shoulders, the city came out this summer and upgraded last years project by laying a thin line of asphault on one side and grading the edges. It's still not enough. Hydro must get sick of restoring power and replacing power poles on this stretch.

If you live out this way please contact the city and let them know you are not happy. Maybe they can fix the S corner once and for all in the spring.

Squeaky, squeaky.

That set of S curves needs much wider paved shoulders. The wee bit of extra pavement that was added AFTER the initial repaving was done is still not wide enough.

Take the pavement right out to far edge of the shoulders on both sides.

The drop off at the edge of the pavement will grab a wheel and toss the vehicle all over the place - even at low speeds.

I've been wondering how many people have to hit the ditch on these corners before the problem is fixed.

Thought we might have a chance when I seen a cop car in the ditch there a few years back.

You are right hartbooks, the pavement does need to go out to the far edge on BOTH SIDES.

I shake my head when I see how wide they paved the Pilot Mtn road this summer and what large shoulders they put on it even though it is a secondary road and sees little use. Miles of asphalt. Would it have hurt to have laid a bit of that on the S corner?

Hopefully it won't take a fatality before they fix this crap stretch.

I sure hope know one was hurt!

After several calls this fall to the city, it looked hopefull that they might actually fix that corner. Not so... what I thought was going to fix the problem turned out to be a token splat of pavement with a little gravel added to the edge. AND only one small section of those corners. For the amount it would have taken to go around that whole stretch couldn't have been that much harder to do. Even that was not enough if they don't straighten that stretch, the corners need to be built out way wider and paved properly!!Very quickly that gravel was sluffing away creating the same issues. For the last year and a half persons working towards road safety for these logging trucks have brought up this corner again and again to the city to get fixed. Those of us who drive that stretch day after day need to keep calling!!!
Message to JUNCO..It is also very tragic for those that saw the spot where this accident happened, many remember the fatal accident of Ryan a couple years ago in this exact spot.There already has been a fatality so very very sad...
I hope something is done now??

I remember accidents taking place on this stretch of road as far back as the late fifties,and early sixties. Seems nothing of any significance has been done since then.

If people put some real pressure on the New Mayor and Council, they might get some action; The old Mayor and Council had little on no concern for these types of problems, they were more into big time contracts, useless developments, churning local business's etc;

We could afford a million dollar replay board for our Hockey Fans.

A $2.5 Million or more for a connector between the CN Centre and the Kin Centre which is rarely used.

A $400,000.00 tunnel under highway 16 that is rarely used. Its interesting to note that after this tunnel was built, they put in stop lights at the intersection where Northland Chrysler is located. For a few extra bucks they could have put in crossing signals for pedestrians, thus eliminating any need for a tunnel.

We can give $150,000.00 to Horizen Air to pretend to have an air service from Seattle to Prince George.

But for some strange reason we have to raise bloody hell to get some money spent to fix up roads to reduce accidents.

Whats with that???

Everyone always blames everything else but themselves for these crashes.

Slow the hell down, it's winter!!!!!

Speed isn't the only factor on this set of corners though.

With the way the road is built on these corners, it's tipped oddly, if you meet a large truck coming in the opposite direction, and it is close to, on or over the centre line, it forces a person to move over to the shoulder edge of the lane, rather than staying in the middle of it.

Because these corners have narrow shoulders, and a substantial drop down at the edge of the pavement, the vehicle will often drop a wheel over that edge.

I've had it happen a few times in driving this piece of road since 1990. It's a real fight to keep control of the vehicle and bring it back up onto the pavement, make the turn, stay in the lane and watch for where the truck is that was cutting the corner.

Even with studded winter tires, and driving below the speed limit, I've gotten several scares on these corners.

Absolutly correct hartbooks!

as well, yes people need to correct thier driving patterns to winter conditions, but these corners are not good in the summer.As hartbooks said the road IS slanted wrong and all one has to do is catch the sloped edge of the pavement and over you go. Logging truck lengths have changed since we have been driving this stretch in the last 30 years. Those corners were not good as Palopu stated then, and tighter for those longer axel trucks now

In all fairness, there are tighter and steeper turns on most bush roads and this fella made it out of the bush with those logs somehow... :-)

In all fairness, I am very tired of seeing the accumulation on the roads far beyond what is driveable by most averagely skilled drivers.

Isn't some outfit paid to clear the roads ?

Isn't this the same outfit that was on strike all summer but still got paid for the work that they were supposed to be doing, on the promise that they would get the work done once they got back to work ?

I'd like to know how you magically catch up on 3-4 months of lost time without incurring added costs or working night and day. I didn't see a flurry of "catch-up" activity, nor did I see any number of private contractors taking up the slack. I wish I had a business that ran like this.

What I think is that the government wants to be at arms length from the responsibility of maintaining the roads, in order to escape any liability. Thus, they privatize it and subsidize the private enterprise to keep it running, only as a front for them to cut back on maintenance and blame it on poor service from a contractor.

The contractor remains running as a storefront facade, not really able to do much more than maintain a phone number and company logo on the budgets they are expected to run on. The work doesn't get done, but there is a number for you to phone and bitch about the work not being done. How handy.

We've lived down the road from this corner for 7 years and every winter we are reminded of its dangerous qualities. This corner, even when driven slowly and cautiously can prove to be very dangerous. One afternoon last year I ended up in the ditch with three children in our vehicle and this was very scary for us all. Not only was the actual accident very dangerous, but we felt it to be a horrible situation, knowing that another logging truck could be heading around the corner next. This road needs to be straightened, with proper paved shoulders (as opposed to the funny little 100 ft shoulder put in at the last minute this fall). Please send your comments and ideas for a solution to: servicecentre@city.pg.bc.ca. Please let them know you are unhappy with the current situation and are demanding change with regards to the visibility and width of Chief Lake Road, especially at the S corners. I really hope we don't need a fatality to make change.

Thanks for the info Sonja
I will be sending my comments to the address you provided and hope all others will do the same.