raise river rd again????

You could see this coming 2-3 days ago as soon as the temperature dropped enough for the ice to start forming on the edges. I think it could easily be a repeat of last year if conditions are right and could just as easily break a new channel through our downtown, and there is nothing we can do to stop it at this point if it decides to do that.

The fraser is jamming up pretty good behind northwood pulp..Should be interesting to see what the nechako will do.. There is lots of ice coming down.

"team of people involved in last years efforts" I think someone with some brains should be consulted this year, and please let it be someone with knowledge of cost restraints. What was the final price tag of the construction flops of last years so called efforts, does anyone remember? (my favorite being the hot water piping, what did it run for 13 hours in total then our city realized Canfor was going to charge for the hot water), what a joke!!!

We missed the oportunity to dredge so we better dig out the phone number for the AMPHIBEX people. They were the only ones involved last year that had any intelligent solutions.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN !

What a surprise, eh? And this winter is supposed to be colder than last winter...

lots of capacity as river was very low this year. Lots of capacity to have an ice jam. The water is suppost to run under the ice not move the ice in front of it till it reachs a point where it is to shallow for the ice to move causing an ice jam. Going to be a repeat of last year it looks like.

blow it up before it becomes to big and make sure the charge is big enough to clear out the channel. Cost a lot less than last years fiasco.

No fear of flood... this week.

I live on the P.G. Pulpmill rd and I went to work for 4 hours and I saw a huge difference in that time. If the river rose 1 meter today what is it going to do when the temp. reaches -30 tomorrow? I sure as hell wished they had dredged the river this year, the city knows that dredging is the solution, what are they waiting for, I know a REPEAT preformance, and to hell with everyone and businesses that were affected. Take away our jobs and homes that is what the city does best. Well our sump pumps are ready to go both of them.

Gee I wonder what the Ministry of Environment think of the boom lift being in the water, by any chance would it be diesel fired or what about the axle grease.

I don't care what anybody says....

DREDGING THE CONFLUENCE OF THE NECHAKO AND FRASER IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.
WHEN ARE THESE INCOMPETENT LEADERS GOING TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BACON?

Wonder if those living along the Nechako have flood insurance this year?
Wanna bet we taxpayers get the bill for homeowner losses this year.

I remember during the last flood a certain citizen that lived on Pulpmill Rd refused others attempts at running water pump hoses across their properties to try and help their neighbours. You know who you are and should be ashamed.

"The City Manager says "we are discussing the matter with a team of people who were involved in last year’s efforts with a view to getting their thoughts on the issue."

LMAO, is this team like one of our BC teams such as the Cougars or the Lions or the Canucks? Get my drift?

I hope we the taxpayers are not paying for that chat session. Look where they got us last year and now that flooding is threatening us once again they are talking to LAST YEARS TEAM!

Northman...The ice you see is only ice that is on the surface of the river and has no effect on the Nechako. The Fraser ice backing up around Northwood or at the mouth of the Nechako means nothing in regards to the icejam on the Nechako. The Fraser has no effect on the Nechako Jam.
The gravel bars on the Nechako are the only cause of the Nechako icejam problem. Get rid of them and we can all sleep at night once again.

Common sense you have it correct but, cost restraints are not the issue, people that don't know what they are doing that are spending our taxdollars is the issue.

This problem needed to be fixed months ago and the DOLT's have done NOTHING.

Sorry all this year I am unable to assist in the flood crisis as I am out of town for a while. Good luck.

Can we just repost last year's posts? Sort of a waste of time to go through the same thing again unless someone has something new to report.

memories http://www.normrock.ca/uploads/img/AMPHIBEX%2002.jpg

Posted by: downnotout on December 18 2008 5:07 PM
blow it up before it becomes to big and make sure the charge is big enough to clear out the channel. Cost a lot less than last years fiasco.---------------------------------------------------------------

Do you know how long that channel is and how many tons of explosives will be required to do a job like you suggest?

Excavators and cats were the tools required when the time was right. Unfortunately that time has passed.

Posted by: He speaks on December 18 2008 5:10 PM
Gee I wonder what the Ministry of Environment think of the boom lift being in the water, by any chance would it be diesel fired or what about the axle grease.
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If you knew anything about Genieboom's you would know that isn't an issue.

Posted by: gus on December 18 2008 5:36 PM
Can we just repost last year's posts? Sort of a waste of time to go through the same thing again unless someone has something new to report.
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Don't read it!

Posted by: giterdun on December 18 2008 3:04 PM
We missed the oportunity to dredge so we better dig out the phone number for the AMPHIBEX people. They were the only ones involved last year that had any intelligent solutions.

I believe the Amphibex idea was the result of Heidi, please give credit to her.

AMPHIBEX had no solutions. They knocked out some ice however in order for the machine to operate it needed a clear channel. If you have a clear channel, then you have water flowing, and therefore no need for AMPHIBEX. They almost lost their machine in the river, became a safety issue, were terminated early on their contract, paid, and sent back to Quebec. You will not be hearing from them again.

What really saved the day was the channel that broke through Cottonwood Park and allowed water to go around the jam.

Seems we may have to go through another flood before we get to solving the problem by dredging.

Stop fooling around with the rivers. They were here long before us and worked very well. We had no problems until industry started polluting them.

Posted by: Lamb on December 18 2008 8:20 PM
Stop fooling around with the rivers. They were here long before us and worked very well. We had no problems until industry started polluting them.
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Alrighty then, now we have the solution.

fuck too bad i was hoping to get evacuated from my house again at midnight

Frank, how have you managed to not get banned from this site?

looks like Ben has not seen the post from frank. Maby Frank should apologize before Ben sees the word. (hint hint.....)

What kind of a moron uses his real name and posts crap like that Frank?
Oliver Ave isn't it Franky?

lostfaith.

"Frank" has a phone book too. He/she may be using it to pick up a real name.

Yeah, Ben pulled one of my posts because I cussed in it.....how cum not Rizzo's? Must be buddies.

Ben has probably not been aware of the comment by frank. Frank still has time to appologize.