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Contract Awarded for Next Phase of RCMP Building

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Monday, January 05, 2009 08:55 PM

Proposed 2 storey, 2 acre development  that will be the new home for the Prince George RCMP detachment
 
Prince George, B.C.- Dominion Fairmile has been given the job of joining the design team for the new RCMP building to help cost out the price tag for the project and the intent is that  Dominion Fairmile will get the  job of building the facility.
 
Councillor Dave Wilbur put forth questions that could have derailed that contract.   Wilbur had staff confirm that the original RCMP building was built  with  the idea of adding extra floors, yet that has not been  explored.  He would like to see alternatives explored like expanding the Brunswick Street property or  renovating the Brunswick Street property and  building a smaller  facility that is not so centralized. He  also pointed out there are 2 borrowing bylaws,  and the amount  already approved for borrowing is  $21 million.  However,  it is expected the actual  cost of the planned facility would be much more although no one can say how much more that might be.  Director of Leisure Services, Tom Madden says  while costs  have likely escalated over the past 24-36 months, the current economic climate could see  a reversal in that escalation.
 
Councillor Wilbur says he would like to make his final decision based on looking at everything that is available. Councillor Cameron Stolz says he is concerned about  approving  an RFP when the possible cost of this project  could  creep into the $40 million dollar range. The City Taxpayer is paying the full bill for this project, there is no cost sharing with other levels of government.
 
This is the second time City Council has had a look at this item.
 
Before the Civic election, the previous Council expressed concern over the process which resulted in Dominion Fairmile scoring just 11 points higher overall than their closest competition, but were ten points below their closest competition in the critical area of “Project fees and expenses”.
 
The previous Council asked that there be an independent third party review of the process, however, staff returned to the new Council with  a report which does not include a third party review. The report reads “that approach has since been determined as inconsistent with the RFP instructions to proponents and the process set out in it. It is important that the City respect the duty of procedural fairness in its competitive bidding processes.”
 
The report concludes the City should award the contract to Dominion Fairmile as it was the one of 7 proponents for the job. It is expected the company which gets this job (worth no more than $90 thousand dollars) will land the contract to actually build the facility.
 
Dominion Fairmile will be involved in:
 
• completing the design review for presentation to Council;
• preparing capital cost estimates for the project which reflect final design quantity survey results, construction industry economic conditions and other cost/savings measures associated with the final design; and
• provide an option to further engage the construction management contractor to manage the construction phase of the project.
 
Councillor Wilbur presented  a motion calling for a look  at 4 points
1. update report on the current facility and its ability to handle expansion
2. examine  possibility of renovating  existing  facility
3. look at building a smaller, de centralized building
4. look at alternative sites. 
All fourpoints would have cost factors included.
 
Wilbur says the 4th and Victoria property is a very expensive site.  He suggested the land be sold  and the dollars from that sale be put towards new construction.
His motion was defeated.
 

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Nice to see a council person at least attempting to look at ALL viable options. Wether good or bad all need to be looked at before things go ahead.
The lesson to be learned from this? Any costs which would go to making any new civic building easy to add on to in the future should be avoided. It is rareley used. Future city governments have different requirements. Such a potential will only stall future projects.

Even police need fancy offices with lots of plants, open staircases, high tech balustrades, robust floor finishes, opulant entries, etc. etc. to show the stature they have in the community. The old fortress-like look which allows a security building to remain secure during a public riot is out.

How did Councillor Wilbur vote on the many expensive improvements at the airport as a Director on that board? Was he pushing for some more realistic improvements such as jetways which would have allowed people to board and deplane in a protected environment, especially in the winter? Did he fail there as well persuade his fellow Directors to take a more practical look at what should be provided for the travelling public?

I wonder if he did some lobbying beforehand and came up empty handed this time around?
This building will be a nice landmark for the site.I would however remove the parking from the frontand put it underground. Downtown should be pedestrian focused and the parking lot in this location detracts from the pedestrian focus.
The key for any contractor is to get the contract first and then cost plus charge for any alterations and most contractors these days always have an alteration that they must have done after the contract is tendered... usually because a change made by another contractor and so goes the circle....

IMO Councilor Wilbur was spot on with his line of reasoning considering the cost of this project.
It seems like we have one new councillor with an open mind. In these troubled economic times all of the options he brought forth should be explored. Good work Dave!
"It is expected the company which gets this job (worth no more than $90 thousand dollars) will land the contract to actually build the facility."
If the city does decide to build this Dominion Fairmile WILL get the job. Administration said last night that it would not be going out for re-bid and the intent is to award the contract to Dominion Fairmile
They may use some sub-trades but in all likelyhood they will bring in their own crews from the Okanagan
Good for Councillor Wilbur. These are tough economic times and to take another look would be the sensible thing to do. Councillor Frizell was in favour. So we have at least two Councillors doing their research. The old guard seemed to be protective of their position and wouldn't consider a re-look.
It is very interesting to see the split in the voting for what I think is a very reasonable proposal; Taxpayers have already spent the extra money for future expansion to the existing facility on Brunswick St. Why not look at the idea? Could they not build their opulent palace on top of and around the existing building? Yes of course they could.
The OLD guard, along with "city staff" have the bit in their teeth and their rhinestone studded blinders on and they will get what they want, a 30-40-50 million dollar monument to stupidity and poor money management. I am pleased to see that the new blood on council, even Mr. Rogers, have the good sense and intestinal fortitude to speak and vote against the incumbents who in my opinion, have their craniums lodged in an uncomfortable location where the sun is rarely seen.
What a boondoggle.
metalman.
Wilbur, Frizell, and Stolz, were in favour of a review of this project, and Mayor Rodgers was also in favour. Skakun was absent. Green, Munoz, Basserman, Krause voted against it, and therefore it was defeated. The Mayor only has a vote in case of a tie.

It seems the tax and spend councillors won this round, and have very little or no concern to spending another 20 to 25 million dollars of tax payers money. Lets hope that the new councillors can get at least one other Councillor on board with them, or we will continue with the same BS we had for the past 6 years, only with an ineffective Mayor, and 3 Councillors.

This will be the third NEW Police Station built in Prince George in the last 50 years. Only a City that was totally out of touch with reality would build three new buildings in that time frame. Other Cities in this Province must think we are a bunch of idiots.

Depending on the final cost of this project the City may have to go to a referendum on this, so the situation is not yet a done deal, but it is well on the way, with the delusional Performing Arts Centre not far behind.

A new police station is needed. The one on brunswick is outdated, has poor ventalation, and is simply not big enough for todays needs. The parking in front is fine for visitors, as police parking will be underground.
If the Police station on Brunswick street is outdated when it was only built approx 22 years ago, then all the major buildings in Prince George would be outdated.

The Brunswick Station was build in the Eighties to replace the Station on 7th and Que. that even though it was only 25 years old, was also **outdated**

It would be more correct to say that the Brunswick Station no longer meets the needs of the RCMP, even though it was built with their input, so that they would get exactly what they wanted.

I beleive this is more about building contracts, than it is about real needs for the RCMP. We could renovate the Brunswick St. station to whatever specifications they wanted, and we would save millions of dollars.

I suspect that the Brunswick St. site is where the City would like to build the new Performing Arts Centre, and therefore the RCMP must be relocated.