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Lets Finally Have Some Answers From Simon Fraser And Northern Health

By Ben Meisner

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 03:45 AM

The question being raised by Diane Cailleaux of Prince George as to why it took seven days for her mother to receive an X-Ray for a broken femur bone is not only a legitimate question, it demands an answer.

Sarah Smith suffered a broken leg after two of her children tried to put her back into her bed when she had complained of suffering from a sore rear from lying in one position for a long period of time.

If you believe only half of what you are told, the comments offered to her are a Merry Go Round. Mrs Cailleaux says she was told the X-ray was closed during the Xmas holidays, not true. We have been told that the woman didn’t want an X-ray because it would take here away from her family over the Christmas holiday. So who would accept that from an 84 year old woman suffering from dementia?

Surely any reasonable thinking person would want to see the woman out of pain. There was yet another reason given. The family didn’t want to say they had been involved in her leg being broken. Rubbish, who cares how her leg was broken, that is clearly not the issue. The issue is why she had to wait seven days to get an X-Ray plain and simple.

Then there is the matter of suggesting that the family would have to file in proper form (no Hand writing) a request for her medical records. Again rubbish, what does the fact that a woman had to wait for seven days for an X-ray have to do with her medical records? Did she wait for seven days or not, that doesn’t require revealing anything more than why?

"The files are gone to another jurisdiction", "you need a proper filled out request" all of these placed as a stumbling block before the family.

Let’s finally see why the delay took place and then let’s see what we need to do to prevent what happened to Mrs Smith from taking place again. That is the issue.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Obviously the Simon Fraser Lodge and Northern Health are worried about a legal action against them for negligence. Even the fact that her relatives had to move her because of sores could be seen as being done due to inadequate care being provided by the Lodge. I suspect that the resistance she is getting is a response made in the hope she will drop it because of the difficulties.

I suggest Mrs Cailleaux first make a request in writing, and deliver it by hand to the Lodge Administrator. Since the "other jurisdiction" is most likely PGRH, she should make the request of the Administrator and the supervisor of the Health Records Department there as well. If they don't reply in a couple of days contact a lawyer and start the law suit they are so afraid of.
"We have been told that the woman didn’t want an X-ray because it would take her away from her family over the Christmas holiday. So who would accept that from an 84 year old woman suffering from dementia?"

This is what a lawyer would focus on. Did the woman give power of attourney to her family to allow them to make her decisions for her? If so, then why didn't the family insist on an x-ray?
I think that what we are seeing here is a type of triage. A friend took a triage course before and told me the color ribbon that you did not want tied to you if you are in a major event, such as a plane crash etc. That color ribbon meant that you where going to die and no one was going to TRY to save you. Limited reasources, unlimited need. A mechanism is needed. This is it. Its terrrible and its sad. Try to get a knee operation if you are over 80. I see the point. That same knee operation on a 25 year old has way more utility. It seems reasonable. But then consider the individuals and the families of the elderly person who will spend there final years with limited mobility because the resources will be allocated elsewhere. Sad but true.

BTW I believe that Simon Fraser Lodge is a privately run for profit corporation. I am not exactly sure how Northern Health is involved in this.
Again, people ought not to jump up and accuse the staff of Simon Fraser of 'triage'.Born in BC, you dont know what you are talking about, so dont talk at all. The staff at Simon fraser do not treat old folks like they are less worthy of care. I do not see the point of all these scandalous musings and second guesses by people who dont know any of the facts. If Mr Meisner wants to investigate this, let him investigate it. That way , if there is any blame to be laid, at least it will be informed.
" Posted by: Born in BC on January 20 2009 9:02 AM
I think that what we are seeing here is a type of triage."

What we are seeing here is a type of "incompetence" and buck passing to save ones A$$.
Or a lot of negative, idle speculation based on one side of the story.....
I agree that the rest of the story is needed before any harsh judgments are made. Having said that, since NHA and SFL are not responding to any of the questions, I suspect that most of the information received is accurate and they are trying to buy time to cover their butts. Since there is nothing but silence, it is very difficult not to jump to harsh conclusions.